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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: Bavaria on May 26, 2015, 10:42:12 AM



Title: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Bavaria on May 26, 2015, 10:42:12 AM
Hey sport gamblers!

I can help you bet on sport events in East European bet houses.

Here is how it works:

I bet instead of you.

1) You tell me on which event to bet and how much USD/EUR/BTC.
2) You send this amount to the escrow (someone from this forum).
3) I bet my money on this event.

4) If you win, I send you the won amount minus my commission (around 5% of the betted amount). After I send you the won amount, escrow releases the funds to me.
5) If you loose, the escrow releases the fund to me.

Escrow accepted.



Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: lottoitaliano on May 26, 2015, 12:41:28 PM
How you can help ? You open account to east europen and i can bet online?


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Bavaria on May 26, 2015, 02:15:52 PM
How you can help ? You open account to east europen and i can bet online?

No, what I do is:

I bet instead of you.

1) You tell me on which event to bet and how much USD/EUR/BTC.
2) You send this amount to the escrow (someone from this forum).
3) I bet my money on this event.

4) If you win, I send you the won amount minus my commission (around 5%). After I send you the won amount, escrow releases the funds to me.
5) If you loose, the escrow releases the fund to me.


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: cbase on May 26, 2015, 02:25:05 PM
Hey sport gamblers!

I can help you bet on sport events in East European bet houses.

Escrow accepted.



I cant get it. You offer to bet in sportsbook site and you will take 5% commision on every win? isnt btc sportsbook sites doesnt offer the same games as like the one where you will place the bets?


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: marioantonini on May 26, 2015, 02:50:13 PM
the probleme is the same, the confidence.
Because if i send 1 btc to escrow and lose, the escrow pay you, but if a bet 1 btc odd 10 and win 10 btc, if you don't pay me, the escrow can send back only 1 btc and you cant bet for free  ;D


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Slark on May 26, 2015, 03:03:52 PM
the probleme is the same, the confidence.
Because if i send 1 btc to escrow and lose, the escrow pay you, but if a bet 1 btc odd 10 and win 10 btc, if you don't pay me, the escrow can send back only 1 btc and you cant bet for free  ;D
Haha. That is exactly the case here. The only way to resolve this problem will be if service operator would escrow money gambler has chance of winning. Without this Op's service is not trustworthy...
He can take whole prize and just vanish. With this hole in this system I doubt anyone would be using Op's method.


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: shanem on May 26, 2015, 03:10:35 PM
There is no need to go through you to bet on games when I can bet with the sportsbook directly.
There are many bitcoin sportsbook available which is less risky than going through you.


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Bavaria on May 26, 2015, 03:36:25 PM
There is no need to go through you to bet on games when I can bet with the sportsbook directly.
There are many bitcoin sportsbook available which is less risky than going through you.

You can of course bet on any sportsbook, but try to bet on your favorite sportsbook a large sum for example 10k or 50k USD. They will refuse.

As for me, I guarantee betting large sums (several dozens of thousands)  on a given event.


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Light on May 26, 2015, 03:36:31 PM
Haha. That is exactly the case here. The only way to resolve this problem will be if service operator would escrow money gambler has chance of winning. Without this Op's service is not trustworthy...
He can take whole prize and just vanish. With this hole in this system I doubt anyone would be using Op's method.

Yeah does seem to be a problem - it's entirely risk free for you so the gambler takes on all the risk - including the potential that you just run away with winnings. Only way I can see a solution is by escrowing enough to cover any single major bet with an escrow that way they are guaranteed should the result point in their favour.

The other thing I question is are the odds in EU houses actually worth the 5% cut off the top? Are they that much better than online betting platforms?


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: cbase on May 26, 2015, 03:38:45 PM
There is no need to go through you to bet on games when I can bet with the sportsbook directly.
There are many bitcoin sportsbook available which is less risky than going through you.

You can of course bet on any sportsbook, but try to bet on your favorite sportsbook a large sum for example 10k or 50k USD. They will refuse.

As for me, I guarantee betting large sums (several dozens of thousands)  on a given event.

What is the guarantee that you will give the winnings of a user incase they won big amount? would you escrow your coins too?


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Bavaria on May 26, 2015, 03:39:39 PM
As for the 5%, it will be negotiable depending on amount of $ betted. 


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Bavaria on May 26, 2015, 03:42:47 PM
There is no need to go through you to bet on games when I can bet with the sportsbook directly.
There are many bitcoin sportsbook available which is less risky than going through you.

You can of course bet on any sportsbook, but try to bet on your favorite sportsbook a large sum for example 10k or 50k USD. They will refuse.

As for me, I guarantee betting large sums (several dozens of thousands)  on a given event.

What is the guarantee that you will give the winnings of a user incase they won big amount? would you escrow your coins too?

Yes, I can escrow that also.

To establish trust, I can begin accepting small bets - between 100 and 1.000 USD range.


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: ajaxmoor on May 26, 2015, 04:21:31 PM
the probleme is the same, the confidence.
Because if i send 1 btc to escrow and lose, the escrow pay you, but if a bet 1 btc odd 10 and win 10 btc, if you don't pay me, the escrow can send back only 1 btc and you cant bet for free  ;D
I guess both of you in that case can escrow the amount that can be won ,as well the bet. So if you bet 1 BTC at 10x, you can send 1 BTC to the escrow, and he can send 10 BTC to the escrow . And at the end, just settle it.


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Bavaria on May 26, 2015, 04:26:57 PM
the probleme is the same, the confidence.
Because if i send 1 btc to escrow and lose, the escrow pay you, but if a bet 1 btc odd 10 and win 10 btc, if you don't pay me, the escrow can send back only 1 btc and you cant bet for free  ;D
I guess both of you in that case can escrow the amount that can be won ,as well the bet. So if you bet 1 BTC at 10x, you can send 1 BTC to the escrow, and he can send 10 BTC to the escrow . And at the end, just settle it.

Looks like to be an optimal solution.


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: marioantonini on May 26, 2015, 04:32:47 PM
The only system id send to escrow more more btc, like fixed deposit, but if you accept a single bet for thousand $ is very hard


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: sguegliam on May 26, 2015, 04:37:32 PM
you bet of which site? Is possible see, later bet, the confirmation from site you have bet?


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Joca97 on May 26, 2015, 06:33:22 PM
hmm.why dont you post your winning stats and loss stats,so we can see your progress in your horse betting
also post the winning and lost picks in your thread
as i see this service free to the public because you take 5% commisions


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Bavaria on May 26, 2015, 06:44:00 PM
hmm.why dont you post your winning stats and loss stats,so we can see your progress in your horse betting
also post the winning and lost picks in your thread
as i see this service free to the public because you take 5% commisions

I do not give you tips like others in this section to post here my win and loss stats.

What I do is I`m offering you a service for a certain fee.


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: lexuz on May 26, 2015, 08:05:47 PM
hmm.why dont you post your winning stats and loss stats,so we can see your progress in your horse betting
also post the winning and lost picks in your thread
as i see this service free to the public because you take 5% commisions

I do not give you tips like others in this section to post here my win and loss stats.

What I do is I`m offering you a service for a certain fee.


Yeah i know but 5% fee its to high. You dont do anything, i mean you just place a bet. And i want say good luck for your idea bro ;)


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Bavaria on May 26, 2015, 08:16:57 PM
hmm.why dont you post your winning stats and loss stats,so we can see your progress in your horse betting
also post the winning and lost picks in your thread
as i see this service free to the public because you take 5% commisions

I do not give you tips like others in this section to post here my win and loss stats.

What I do is I`m offering you a service for a certain fee.


Yeah i know but 5% fee its to high. You dont do anything, i mean you just place a bet. And i want say good luck for your idea bro ;)

Mate, this 5% applies to the betted amount, not the amount you win.


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Joca97 on May 26, 2015, 08:17:52 PM
hmm.why dont you post your winning stats and loss stats,so we can see your progress in your horse betting
also post the winning and lost picks in your thread
as i see this service free to the public because you take 5% commisions

I do not give you tips like others in this section to post here my win and loss stats.

What I do is I`m offering you a service for a certain fee.
As i understand you now,you dont post any picks here,even after win or loss?how will you convince people to bet on your picks

also if you arent posting anything and you are just offering your service,then this thread isnt suppost to be in this section,try then service section


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Bavaria on May 26, 2015, 08:27:42 PM
hmm.why dont you post your winning stats and loss stats,so we can see your progress in your horse betting
also post the winning and lost picks in your thread
as i see this service free to the public because you take 5% commisions

I do not give you tips like others in this section to post here my win and loss stats.

What I do is I`m offering you a service for a certain fee.
As i understand you now,you dont post any picks here,even after win or loss?how will you convince people to bet on your picks

also if you arent posting anything and you are just offering your service,then this thread isnt suppost to be in this section,try then service section

Man, try to read carefully all the posts in my thread. I work through escrow, this means u loose nothing.

If you escrow the betted amount, I escrow the amount you bet + the amount are going to win !


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Wendigo on May 26, 2015, 08:40:52 PM
hmm.why dont you post your winning stats and loss stats,so we can see your progress in your horse betting
also post the winning and lost picks in your thread
as i see this service free to the public because you take 5% commisions

I do not give you tips like others in this section to post here my win and loss stats.

What I do is I`m offering you a service for a certain fee.
As i understand you now,you dont post any picks here,even after win or loss?how will you convince people to bet on your picks

also if you arent posting anything and you are just offering your service,then this thread isnt suppost to be in this section,try then service section

You did not read right again. His service is betting your money at eastern european sportsbooks on an event chosen by you and using an escrow. Now what are the advantages of the aforementioned houses when say bet365 accepts large sums too?


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Bavaria on May 26, 2015, 08:57:55 PM
hmm.why dont you post your winning stats and loss stats,so we can see your progress in your horse betting
also post the winning and lost picks in your thread
as i see this service free to the public because you take 5% commisions

I do not give you tips like others in this section to post here my win and loss stats.

What I do is I`m offering you a service for a certain fee.
As i understand you now,you dont post any picks here,even after win or loss?how will you convince people to bet on your picks

also if you arent posting anything and you are just offering your service,then this thread isnt suppost to be in this section,try then service section

You did not read right again. His service is betting your money at eastern european sportsbooks on an event chosen by you and using an escrow. Now what are the advantages of the aforementioned houses when say bet365 accepts large sums too?

Exactly, you explained very well my service :)

As for the answer to your question, I`m sure bet365 will not let you bet the amount which I can bet in dozens of bet houses. I`m a verified user on bet365 and several times they let me bet only several hundreds of USD on Asian sport events while I could bet tens of thousands in eastern EU sportsbooks on the same events.

So my advantage is the ability for the user to bet large sum of money. Also there are sport events that may not be listed on your favorite bet house, while you can find them on east EU sportsbooks ;)


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Wendigo on May 26, 2015, 09:02:24 PM
Well good luck to your service then but I am not sure you will find any high-rollers betting on asian sport events here but I may be well wrong.


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: lexuz on May 27, 2015, 05:43:01 PM
hmm.why dont you post your winning stats and loss stats,so we can see your progress in your horse betting
also post the winning and lost picks in your thread
as i see this service free to the public because you take 5% commisions

I do not give you tips like others in this section to post here my win and loss stats.

What I do is I`m offering you a service for a certain fee.


Yeah i know but 5% fee its to high. You dont do anything, i mean you just place a bet. And i want say good luck for your idea bro ;)

Mate, this 5% applies to the betted amount, not the amount you win.


Wait wait, so no mater win or lose. Who placed bet get charged 5% its for your service?
Good luck buddy ;)


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: WhatTheGox on May 28, 2015, 01:06:28 PM
hmm.why dont you post your winning stats and loss stats,so we can see your progress in your horse betting
also post the winning and lost picks in your thread
as i see this service free to the public because you take 5% commisions

I do not give you tips like others in this section to post here my win and loss stats.

What I do is I`m offering you a service for a certain fee.


Yeah i know but 5% fee its to high. You dont do anything, i mean you just place a bet. And i want say good luck for your idea bro ;)

Mate, this 5% applies to the betted amount, not the amount you win.

Do the best pro sports gamblers in the world even have much more than a 5% edge? maybe just but from what i understand if you want to make money on sports betting you need huge tons of volume because your edge is very small.


Title: Re: Sport betting in EU bet houses
Post by: Bavaria on May 28, 2015, 03:46:10 PM
hmm.why dont you post your winning stats and loss stats,so we can see your progress in your horse betting
also post the winning and lost picks in your thread
as i see this service free to the public because you take 5% commisions

I do not give you tips like others in this section to post here my win and loss stats.

What I do is I`m offering you a service for a certain fee.


Yeah i know but 5% fee its to high. You dont do anything, i mean you just place a bet. And i want say good luck for your idea bro ;)

Mate, this 5% applies to the betted amount, not the amount you win.

Do the best pro sports gamblers in the world even have much more than a 5% edge? maybe just but from what i understand if you want to make money on sports betting you need huge tons of volume because your edge is very small.

Your comment is the most reasonable one in this tread mate ;)