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Title: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: Trifixion713 on May 26, 2015, 11:04:22 PM
Houston got slammed last night by storms which lasted for hours. Rain had been forecast but we had no idea that it was going to play-out like this. Luckily my power stayed on and the water didn't come inside the house, but my car had about 4 inches of water sitting in it when I went to check on it this morning.

http://images1.houstonpress.com/imager/u/745xauto/7463346/houston_waterworld_2.jpeg

http://images1.houstonpress.com/imager/u/745xauto/7462989/img_3693.jpg

http://www.houstonpress.com/news/updated-heavy-rains-turn-houston-into-water-world-7462988


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: tvbcof on May 26, 2015, 11:53:27 PM
Houston got slammed last night by storms which lasted for hours. Rain had been forecast but we had no idea that it was going to play-out like this. Luckily my power stayed on and the water didn't come inside the house, but my car had about 4 inches of water sitting in it when I went to check on it this morning.

http://images1.houstonpress.com/imager/u/745xauto/7463346/houston_waterworld_2.jpeg

http://images1.houstonpress.com/imager/u/745xauto/7462989/img_3693.jpg

http://www.houstonpress.com/news/updated-heavy-rains-turn-houston-into-water-world-7462988

Just be thankful you don't live in California where the greenies are getting set to make people drink toilet water...and like it!  It's recent on the 'everyone hates environmentalist and feminists' thread here.  I estimate that the cost for the privilege of drinking sewer water will be a mere 10x or so what they pay now for whatever-the-hell they are drinking (which was snow-melt from the Sierra Nevadas when I lived in Silicon Valley, I believe, before I got the hell out of there a few years ago.)  At least the anchovies will still swim up the San Francisco bay.  Theoretically.  Agenda-21 FTW!



Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: jaysabi on May 27, 2015, 01:49:10 AM
Houston got slammed last night by storms which lasted for hours. Rain had been forecast but we had no idea that it was going to play-out like this. Luckily my power stayed on and the water didn't come inside the house, but my car had about 4 inches of water sitting in it when I went to check on it this morning.

http://images1.houstonpress.com/imager/u/745xauto/7463346/houston_waterworld_2.jpeg

http://images1.houstonpress.com/imager/u/745xauto/7462989/img_3693.jpg

http://www.houstonpress.com/news/updated-heavy-rains-turn-houston-into-water-world-7462988

Just be thankful you don't live in California where the greenies are getting set to make people drink toilet water...and like it!  It's recent on the 'everyone hates environmentalist and feminists' thread here.  I estimate that the cost for the privilege of drinking sewer water will be a mere 10x or so what they pay now for whatever-the-hell they are drinking (which was snow-melt from the Sierra Nevadas when I lived in Silicon Valley, I believe, before I got the hell out of there a few years ago.)  At least the anchovies will still swim up the San Francisco bay.  Theoretically.  Agenda-21 FTW!



You sound like you have a perfectly reasonable solution to a lack of water resources in California, so let's hear it!


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: tvbcof on May 27, 2015, 03:06:42 AM
Houston got slammed last night by storms which lasted for hours. Rain had been forecast but we had no idea that it was going to play-out like this. Luckily my power stayed on and the water didn't come inside the house, but my car had about 4 inches of water sitting in it when I went to check on it this morning.

http://images1.houstonpress.com/imager/u/745xauto/7463346/houston_waterworld_2.jpeg

http://images1.houstonpress.com/imager/u/745xauto/7462989/img_3693.jpg

http://www.houstonpress.com/news/updated-heavy-rains-turn-houston-into-water-world-7462988

Just be thankful you don't live in California where the greenies are getting set to make people drink toilet water...and like it!  It's recent on the 'everyone hates environmentalist and feminists' thread here.  I estimate that the cost for the privilege of drinking sewer water will be a mere 10x or so what they pay now for whatever-the-hell they are drinking (which was snow-melt from the Sierra Nevadas when I lived in Silicon Valley, I believe, before I got the hell out of there a few years ago.)  At least the anchovies will still swim up the San Francisco bay.  Theoretically.  Agenda-21 FTW!


You sound like you have a perfectly reasonable solution to a lack of water resources in California, so let's hear it!

Dams.  Or I should say, restoration of those which have been torn out.

Secondly, accept that more likely than not there have always been shifts in weather patterns and periods of drought where some species do less well and others thrive.  Worst case scenario, plan on helping restore the anchovy or smelt or whatever run (for instance) when weather patterns are more conducive to supporting high populations and use the water for human drinking rather than making people drink over-priced shit water so some small group of politically connected contractors can get rich building un-needed infrastructure.

It also would not hurt to make industrial users pay a higher price for this commodity (which is at least in my state of Oregon publicly owned) than ordinary citizens which is fair since they are exploiting it for profit where as Joe-Shitwaterdrinker is not.

Lastly, make any geo-engineering operations completely open and transparent.  It is not clear to me that some of California's problems are not engineered, and possibly by design to get to exactly where we are, and getting here and moving forward is certain to make some people rich and even more powerful.  Some people have produced some interesting evidence that that is what is happening.  As long as geo-engineering in theory and in potential practice it is a state secret or 'proprietary' info belonging to private contractors there will always be questions about it.  There is (or should be) nothing necessitating secrecy about this.



Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: Chef Ramsay on May 27, 2015, 03:11:48 AM
Punishing rains, flooding turn Houston into a soggy mess; at least 2 killed

More than 11 inches of rain turned Houston into a deadly, soggy mess Tuesday, as rising waters brought an increasing death toll, cut electricity to neighborhoods and stranded motorists in their vehicles.

At least two deaths were reported overnight in Houston, the nation’s fourth largest city, bringing to at least 16 the number of people killed by a flurry of storms in Texas and Oklahoma. Authorities just across the border in Mexico were searching for victims in Ciudad Acuña, where a tornado Monday killed 13 people and left at least five others missing.

Nearly a foot of rain fell overnight in parts of Texas, turning rivers and streams into powerful floodwaters that reshaped shorelines and swept away homes.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-texas-flooding-rain-houston-austin-20150526-story.html#page=1 (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-texas-flooding-rain-houston-austin-20150526-story.html#page=1)


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: jaysabi on May 27, 2015, 03:19:31 AM
I don't know enough about the dams of the area to know that they could solve the problem. The area is going through a severe and prolonged drought, so I don't how dams could solve a scenario like this, mostly because I'm not an engineer. I think your industry point is spot on, but republicans seem to fight for their special interests to protect that valuable campaign cash. I see them being as big of a problem as the democrats. But I don't buy the self-engineered problem. Nobody plays with things as serious as access to enough clean water for political gain. What have you seen that substantiates that line of thought?


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: Chef Ramsay on May 27, 2015, 03:21:52 AM
Floodwaters deepen in Houston after city gets more rain

HOUSTON (AP) — Floodwaters deepened across much of Texas on Tuesday as storms dumped almost a foot more of rain on the Houston area, stranding hundreds of motorists and inundating the famously congested highways that serve the nation's fourth-largest city.

Meanwhile, the search went on for about a dozen people who were still missing, including a group that disappeared after a vacation home was swept down a river and slammed into a bridge.

Several more fatalities were reported — four in Houston and four more in Central Texas. That brought to 17 the number of people killed by the holiday weekend storms in Texas and Oklahoma.

Similar search efforts unfolded just south of the Texas-Mexico border, where crews tried to track down the missing and assessed damage in the city of Ciudad Acuna after a tornado killed 13 people Monday.

In Houston, the water rose sharply overnight as about 11 more inches of rain fell, much of it in a six-hour period. By Tuesday evening, most rivers had receded back within their banks.

The floodwaters affected virtually every part of the city and paralyzed some areas. Firefighters carried out more than 500 water rescues, most involving stranded motorists. At least 2,500 vehicles were abandoned by drivers seeking higher ground, officials said.

"Given the magnitude and how quickly it happened, in such a short period of time, I've never seen this before," said Rick Flanagan, Houston's emergency management coordinator.

http://news.yahoo.com/12-missing-flooding-texas-sweeps-away-vacation-home-073741185.html (http://news.yahoo.com/12-missing-flooding-texas-sweeps-away-vacation-home-073741185.html)


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: Chef Ramsay on May 27, 2015, 03:32:17 AM
Missing woman to sister: ‘We are floating in a house’

WIMBERLEY, Texas (KXAN) — Eight people from two different families have been confirmed missing in Wimberley following flooding Saturday night; the two families were together when the flooding happened. Three of those missing people are the daughter-in-law and grandchildren of former Nueces County Commisioner Joe McComb, he confirmed to KXAN. McComb’s son, Jonathan McComb, was pulled from the floodwaters and taken to a San Antonio hospital for treatment. He is expected to be OK.

All the families were spending a weekend together in Wimberley when the flooding happened.

The confirmed missing include:

Laura McComb and her two children, Leighton and Andrew
Ralph and Sue Carey
Randy and Michelle Charba, daughter of Ralph and Sue, and their 4-year-old son Will
Julie Shields said she was on the phone with her sister, Laura, when their cabin was swept away.

“We are floating in a house that is now floating down the river,” Laura told Shields on the phone. “Call mom and dad. I love you, and pray.”

Those were the last words Shields had with her sister.

More...http://kxan.com/2015/05/24/family-of-former-nueces-county-commisioner-missing-following-flood/ (http://kxan.com/2015/05/24/family-of-former-nueces-county-commisioner-missing-following-flood/)


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: UliJonHoth on May 27, 2015, 03:37:38 AM
My area got hit pretty hard and Brays Bayou is nearby so we were worried about the water coming up into the house but thankfully it didn't get that high. My cousin called me last night as he was trying to make it to his house during the storm - he ended up stranded in someone's driveway til 10am this morning after turning into a neighborhood trying to avoid the flooding. I heard people who had gone to see the Rockets' game got stuck inside the Toyota Center for hours, glad I stayed home last night.

Speaking of dams as tvbcof mentioned, I remember hearing something about this the other day, a dam was destroyed and 50 million gallons of drinking water were lost:

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/East-Bay-Loses-50-Million-Gallons-of-Water-After-Vandals-Destroy-Dam-304782741.html


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: C10H15N on May 27, 2015, 12:33:45 PM
Problem with Houston is that it's essentially built on a swamp.  Excessive rain water really doesn't have anywhere to go but up.

Once these spring storms subside, it will be time for summer hurricane season.


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: Benjig on May 27, 2015, 05:38:35 PM
Global warming is making hot days hotter, rainfall and flooding heavier, hurricanes stronger and droughts more severe. This intensification of weather and climate extremes will be the most visible impact of global warming in our everyday lives. It is also causing dangerous changes to the landscape of our world, adding stress to wildlife species and their habitat.

I like how Bitcoin mining helps finding more effective and clean ways for energy, maybe the climate is not the point but it definitely helps..


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: tvbcof on May 27, 2015, 06:48:58 PM
You sound like you have a perfectly reasonable solution to a lack of water resources in California, so let's hear it!

Nuke it from space. It will be painful, but amputation is necessary to save the rest of the body (Earth). If not, the rot will spread and eventually kill us all. ;)

No, NO!  That will drive the disease up to my area to the North at an even faster rate.

Let the sickness fester in as much isolation as possible until natural defenses develop to help solve the problem.  Projects like making people drink overprices sewer water will help spur the growth of these antibodies with less impact on the states with the misfortune of being neighbors.  And, to some degree we unfortunate neighbors develop a somewhat stronger immune system simply by watching Californians writhe in agony.  Sadly, however, the contagiousness of the disease (called Agenda-21) seems to be overwhelming us here in Oregon at the present time.



Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: JLynn171 on May 27, 2015, 06:56:44 PM
I live in North Texas near lake texoma.... there were few areas that got flooded but mainly the ones that blew over us carried funnel clouds and hail and high winds... only really got scarey once, but once is enough... i was in front yard and watched funnel coud forming as cloud passed my house then just few miles away ended up touching down

https://i.imgur.com/KSockD9.jpg  this is picture of one from few weeks back


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: Trifixion713 on May 27, 2015, 09:03:05 PM
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More than 100,000 gallons of untreated wastewater has spilled after a wastewater treatment plant in Houston flooded.

Houston's Department of Public Works and Engineering said in a news release that the Southwest Wastewater Treatment Plant flooded Tuesday when a bayou overflowed its banks during extensive rains, damaging the plant's electrical and mechanical systems.

The department says the spill has been contained and they've increased monitoring of the water supply systems. The department says cleanup will start once the flooding subsides.

The department says people should not swim in affected areas. It also says people are not required to boil their water, but may wish to do so.

The Texas Commission on Environmental Quality has been notified of the spill

http://www.newser.com/article/3e5703b245c44631a81d4b958c4cbcf0/the-latest-on-flooding-houston-wastewater-treatment-plant-flooded-wastewater-released.html



Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: zeeshsnrehman2 on May 27, 2015, 09:35:25 PM
the types of tornados you get if that could reach my country, we would all die here. i live in the Indian Ocean and the tornados of the USA are very scary. some of them are enormous.


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: Vod on May 28, 2015, 05:32:51 AM
I never understood why the plumbing systems doesn't route used shower water to the toilet.

Why do we need perfectly clean water in the toilet?


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: umairsaleem on May 28, 2015, 08:40:22 AM
In China, they said developed plumbing systems is a symbol of the developed city, It now seems this is often not the case...


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: JLynn171 on May 28, 2015, 04:40:52 PM
lol yes i know im one of those "wack job conspiracy theorists" but .....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=InoHOvYXJ0Q


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: RodeoX on May 28, 2015, 04:42:13 PM
Can I just derail for a moment to say that Waterworld was one of the worst damn movies I have ever seen.  >:(

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Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: tvbcof on May 28, 2015, 06:25:53 PM
lol yes i know im one of those "wack job conspiracy theorists" but .....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=InoHOvYXJ0Q


I entertain the idea that HAARP is capable of manipulating weather in certain conditions and in conjunction with other technologies (e,g., supplementation of atmospheric constituents to make it more effective and data processing.)  If this is the case than it would be negligent to NOT pursue the potential on an experimental basis to find out what is possible.

If this has occurred and has been effective, it strikes me as at least plausible that the technology is proven, and in that case may have been expanded and put into some regular use for national security purposes.  National security has broad definitions and includes a high degree of secrecy.

At this point I'm more inclined to believe that wide scale weather manipulation is not a factor in our reality, but I keep the hypothesis open and match it against observations.

The thing about these 'conspiracies' is that most of the information about them comes from the alternate media which is a very very tricky thing to navigate.  Picking out useful information from the alternate media is a science in and of itself and it involves cross-checking against mainstream observations.



Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: jaysabi on May 29, 2015, 01:26:30 AM
You sound like you have a perfectly reasonable solution to a lack of water resources in California, so let's hear it!

Nuke it from space. It will be painful, but amputation is necessary to save the rest of the body (Earth). If not, the rot will spread and eventually kill us all. ;)

I can't think of many problems facing mankind where nuclear weapons is the reasonable answer.  :)


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: JLynn171 on May 30, 2015, 05:31:06 AM
lol yes i know im one of those "wack job conspiracy theorists" but .....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=InoHOvYXJ0Q


I entertain the idea that HAARP is capable of manipulating weather in certain conditions and in conjunction with other technologies (e,g., supplementation of atmospheric constituents to make it more effective and data processing.)  If this is the case than it would be negligent to NOT pursue the potential on an experimental basis to find out what is possible.

If this has occurred and has been effective, it strikes me as at least plausible that the technology is proven, and in that case may have been expanded and put into some regular use for national security purposes.  National security has broad definitions and includes a high degree of secrecy.

At this point I'm more inclined to believe that wide scale weather manipulation is not a factor in our reality, but I keep the hypothesis open and match it against observations.

The thing about these 'conspiracies' is that most of the information about them comes from the alternate media which is a very very tricky thing to navigate.  Picking out useful information from the alternate media is a science in and of itself and it involves cross-checking against mainstream observations.



ya weather is ever changing but here so far in north texas our lake levels are record setting highs, the damns are going over their spill ways highways are being flooded.... we may need to build an ark soon


Title: Re: Heavy Rain Turns Houston Into Waterworld
Post by: tvbcof on May 30, 2015, 06:59:08 AM

ya weather is ever changing but here so far in north texas our lake levels are record setting highs, the damns are going over their spill ways highways are being flooded.... we may need to build an ark soon

When I was a kid circa 1980-ish I noticed one year that for what seemed like weeks there were these high dense clouds overhead moving fast and no rain. (I am and was in the Western part of Oregon.)  I actually predicted that there would be floods in the MidWest and indeed there were.  As I recall they were some of the heaviest floods the Mississippi river had seen.  This year again is one of the most dry I've seen and by far the most dry that I remember, but I've certainly seen many clouds pass right by (and water vapor is present even when there are no clouds.)

I notice also that fairly ancient texts (e.g., the Christian bible) spend a good bit of time on various weather catastrophes.  This leads me to believe that while some of the accounts are just a bit inflated (e.g., the Noah's ark flood) the authors got their ideas from fairly significant weather events that they or their recent counterparts had experienced.

To someone who's house got washed away it may seem like some big and unusual deal, but the time frames that individual humans see first-hand is just a sliver, and people's memories are not all that great anyway.  From what I see the current flooding is not atypical, at least in certain locales.  http://www.chron.com/news/houston-weather/article/How-the-recent-floods-compare-to-Houston-s-other-6290238.php#photo-4774706 (http://www.chron.com/news/houston-weather/article/How-the-recent-floods-compare-to-Houston-s-other-6290238.php#photo-4774706)

Anyway, best of luck with things.  I hope you are situated such that you can find more entertainment value than grief.  I personally love storms and floods and such, but I've not experienced very many or very significant ones.  If you've got any friends who are active in helping out and are prone to mood shift, keep an eye on them after everything settles down.  I know of several incidents where such people became suicidal once all the excitement and action died down.