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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: g-unit on May 29, 2015, 12:55:45 PM



Title: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: g-unit on May 29, 2015, 12:55:45 PM
Is it because all of the weak hands have finally been shaken out and people are just waiting to see what happens now? What are your opinions?


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: Amph on May 29, 2015, 01:00:08 PM
simple, everyone think (finally) that their precious bitcoin are worth more, so this is the right price of bitcoin now, to answer that thread that asked for it not long time ago

the few dump i believe are from miners and some casual dumpers and nothing else, whales are out of the game for now


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: Tzupy on May 29, 2015, 01:03:16 PM
Bulls negotiating their surrender, this takes some time.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: Asrael999 on May 29, 2015, 01:04:43 PM
Because the volatility in Chinese Stock Markets is greater than that in Bitcoin and the Chinese Money is chasing fairies in equity land at the moment.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: Asrael999 on May 29, 2015, 01:18:39 PM
wow thanks for those charts - they've never been posted in this forum before.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on May 29, 2015, 01:47:13 PM
Big hands are getting in, and big hands want a big piece of the pie. How to solve this without generating a ridiculous rally too soon? Keep the price low for a long time, make weak hands shake, and keep storing cheap BTC. We'll have at least 1+ year of a low price while whales stuck up on 21th century gold.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: spazzdla on May 29, 2015, 03:15:52 PM
Big hands are getting in, and big hands want a big piece of the pie. How to solve this without generating a ridiculous rally too soon? Keep the price low for a long time, make weak hands shake, and keep storing cheap BTC. We'll have at least 1+ year of a low price while whales stuck up on 21th century gold.


^^^^^^


At one point this exact discussion went on about gold.. 


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: g-unit on May 29, 2015, 03:42:55 PM
Big hands are getting in, and big hands want a big piece of the pie. How to solve this without generating a ridiculous rally too soon? Keep the price low for a long time, make weak hands shake, and keep storing cheap BTC. We'll have at least 1+ year of a low price while whales stuck up on 21th century gold.

I like it...been buying cheap coins regularly for sometime now. It would be awesome to be able to continue to do so for another year  ;D.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: kwukduck on May 29, 2015, 04:05:54 PM
simple, everyone think (finally) that their precious bitcoin are worth more, so this is the right price of bitcoin now, to answer that thread that asked for it not long time ago

the few dump i believe are from miners and some casual dumpers and nothing else, whales are out of the game for now


Right... everyone sees the life being sucked out of bitcoin by superior alternatives, the real value of bitcoin is lower than it has ever been before. It's only been held up by bagholders who want to keep up a show in order to trick people to buy their bags. When a critical mass of bagholders has sold off their coins to the next fool, bitcoin will crash faster and deeper than we have ever seen before in its history.

I expected this crash already way earlier but it seems a big group has decided to coordinate this a little different and extend the period of scamming for some more profit. You can be assured bitcoins total collapse will be all over the news and many many small people with a hand in bitcoin will be hurt and lose all they have.

Get out now before you ruin your financial future!


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: Natalia_AnatolioPAMM on May 29, 2015, 04:12:07 PM
cause nothing extraordinary happens


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: Benjig on May 29, 2015, 05:43:19 PM
cause nothing extraordinary happens
Maybe not so extraordinay but indeed there are lots and lots of good news for Bitcoin and the price still the same.

Price fluctuations in the Bitcoin spot rate on the Bitcoin exchanges is driven by many factors. But this 20x price has to be the bottom line,

We can go up soon.



Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: g-unit on May 29, 2015, 06:24:08 PM
simple, everyone think (finally) that their precious bitcoin are worth more, so this is the right price of bitcoin now, to answer that thread that asked for it not long time ago

the few dump i believe are from miners and some casual dumpers and nothing else, whales are out of the game for now


Right... everyone sees the life being sucked out of bitcoin by superior alternatives, the real value of bitcoin is lower than it has ever been before. It's only been held up by bagholders who want to keep up a show in order to trick people to buy their bags. When a critical mass of bagholders has sold off their coins to the next fool, bitcoin will crash faster and deeper than we have ever seen before in its history.

I expected this crash already way earlier but it seems a big group has decided to coordinate this a little different and extend the period of scamming for some more profit. You can be assured bitcoins total collapse will be all over the news and many many small people with a hand in bitcoin will be hurt and lose all they have.

Get out now before you ruin your financial future!

I knew I could count on you for your usual pessimism  ;).


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: Balls on May 29, 2015, 06:25:11 PM
"Why is bitcoin falling?"
"Why is bitcoin rising?"

And now:

"Why is bitcoin stable?"

And the answer always boils down to the same: supply and demand.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: g-unit on May 29, 2015, 06:55:56 PM
"Why is bitcoin falling?"
"Why is bitcoin rising?"

And now:

"Why is bitcoin stable?"

And the answer always boils down to the same: supply and demand.

No shit sherlock.

Ok, to be a smart ass, let me rephrase...why is the supply and demand so equal now?

And why are there equal sells and buys right now?

Though there is actually more buying than selling when the price is stable because of the excess 3600 coins produced per day.



Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: Coinshot on May 29, 2015, 07:14:45 PM
Its stable now as speculators are undecided which it will move. They are expecting some trigger which will indicate which way it is going and then you will see a huge rally or crash.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: Balls on May 29, 2015, 07:27:36 PM
"Why is bitcoin falling?"
"Why is bitcoin rising?"

And now:

"Why is bitcoin stable?"

And the answer always boils down to the same: supply and demand.

No shit sherlock.

Ok, to be a smart ass, let me rephrase...why is the supply and demand so equal now?


And why are there equal sells and buys right now?

Though there is actually more buying than selling when the price is stable because of the excess 3600 coins produced per day.

Because it is. Why do shops sometimes have more or less of a certain thing than the day before? Maybe they had the same. Maybe they have less. If there's ever a shortage of something then the price of it would rise. Same with bitcoin. The supply is matching the demand perfectly so the price stays the same. If more people are buying bitcoins then the price will go up. If nobody or less people are buying them they will go down. Supply and demand always. If we suddenly get a massive industry accepting bitcoins then expect them to rise drastically, but bitcoin is pretty stagnant at the moment so the value reflects this.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: randy8777 on May 29, 2015, 07:35:26 PM
Its stable now as speculators are undecided which it will move. They are expecting some trigger which will indicate which way it is going and then you will see a huge rally or crash.

speculators do know what to do. current price seems to perfectly reflect what bitcoin is worth at this point. why should there be action all the time. i thought people would love to see some kind of stability.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: OgNasty on May 29, 2015, 07:39:31 PM
Consolidation after an 80% drop from the peak.  2016 will be a good year for Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on May 29, 2015, 09:15:47 PM
It is strange isn't it.
My memory is awful, really awful but I can't remember (without researching, digging around etc) a time when the price has been so stable for such a long time.
We've been floating between 220-260 for quite a while now.
Bitcoin is still in it's infancy, it's not like a settled currency is it so I imagine this is just coincidence, a phase if you like.
It'll go up or down pretty soon at a guess.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: Fakhoury on May 29, 2015, 09:36:07 PM
It is strange isn't it.
My memory is awful, really awful but I can't remember (without researching, digging around etc) a time when the price has been so stable for such a long time.
We've been floating between 220-260 for quite a while now.
Bitcoin is still in it's infancy, it's not like a settled currency is it so I imagine this is just coincidence, a phase if you like.
It'll go up or down pretty soon at a guess.

Down ?

I doubt, I think we reached the ground if I'm not mistaken.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: 8up on May 29, 2015, 10:06:02 PM
It is strange isn't it.
My memory is awful, really awful but I can't remember (without researching, digging around etc) a time when the price has been so stable for such a long time.
We've been floating between 220-260 for quite a while now.
Bitcoin is still in it's infancy, it's not like a settled currency is it so I imagine this is just coincidence, a phase if you like.
It'll go up or down pretty soon at a guess.

https://i.imgur.com/gOWpLmX.png

credit goes to /u/azop


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: EternalWingsofGod on May 29, 2015, 11:31:52 PM
Is it because all of the weak hands have finally been shaken out and people are just waiting to see what happens now? What are your opinions?

It tentaitively** Could be the bottom but it's been a constant that the price has dropped over the last year, whether all the hands have finally been shaken or if the market is planning an upward or downward rally is hard to say.
At the least it seems stable and its down a fair percentage from its all time high so it could be going up from here or waiting for news on how other developments are going before a pattern amongst buyers is settled.
A third option is that its finally settled at its operating range for a long time to come still a while to go on this one.

*Bottom has been called countless times and it kept dropping
*Stability here could still go up or down until a trend breaks


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: cellard on May 29, 2015, 11:40:07 PM
Is it because all of the weak hands have finally been shaken out and people are just waiting to see what happens now? What are your opinions?

It tentaitively** Could be the bottom but it's been a constant that the price has dropped over the last year, whether all the hands have finally been shaken or if the market is planning an upward or downward rally is hard to say.
At the least it seems stable and its down a fair percentage from its all time high so it could be going up from here or waiting for news on how other developments are going before a pattern amongst buyers is settled.
A third option is that its finally settled at its operating range for a long time to come still a while to go on this one.

*Bottom has been called countless times and it kept dropping
*Stability here could still go up or down until a trend breaks

At this point the bottom is as low as the whales want the bottom to be. But as of right now, a lower price doesn't benefit anyone, so doesn't a higher price benefit anyone, since whales are stacking up big time on this stable, low price. It's a win win for them, so is for me since im able to get more BTC as well. Say goodbye to making 1 BTC monthly as the average wage guy once we hit 1K again.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: Cconvert2G36 on May 29, 2015, 11:43:43 PM
It is strange isn't it.
My memory is awful, really awful but I can't remember (without researching, digging around etc) a time when the price has been so stable for such a long time.
We've been floating between 220-260 for quite a while now.
Bitcoin is still in it's infancy, it's not like a settled currency is it so I imagine this is just coincidence, a phase if you like.
It'll go up or down pretty soon at a guess.

https://i.imgur.com/gOWpLmX.png

credit goes to /u/azop

Perfect setup for a long straddle. BTC needs more liquid and respected options markets.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: Bit_Happy on May 29, 2015, 11:47:13 PM
Is it because all of the weak hands have finally been shaken out and people are just waiting to see what happens now? What are your opinions?

Building a solid base to launch a huge rally; The BTC fundamentals are way too strong for the rally to be delayed much longer.  :)


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: Alley on May 30, 2015, 02:47:59 AM
Big players are fine accumulating small amounts of coins everyday out of the 3600 mined.  And doing so things are quiet and price stays low.  Can only keep a lid on price for so long though. 


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: manselr on May 30, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
Big players are fine accumulating small amounts of coins everyday out of the 3600 mined.  And doing so things are quiet and price stays low.  Can only keep a lid on price for so long though. 
Yeah, thats exactly what they did with Vertcoin before the recent megapump, whales adquiring a lot of cheap Vert. Same they will do with Maidsafe, get tons of MAID for months while the price is low before they skyrocket it.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: pooya87 on May 30, 2015, 05:05:01 PM
i think it is partly because most people who though they can become millionaires from bitcoin in one night gave up and left the scene.

on the other hand i think mostly people are accumulating and since there is good buy supports the price doesn't go much lower than this.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: Febo on May 30, 2015, 07:00:41 PM
i think it is partly because most people who though they can become millionaires from bitcoin in one night gave up and left the scene.


But where are they? We need to get them back? Where they go?

Those that fairly understood what Bitcoin is, i doubt will forgot about it anytime soon.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: 1Referee on May 30, 2015, 09:49:37 PM
i think it is partly because most people who though they can become millionaires from bitcoin in one night gave up and left the scene.


But where are they? We need to get them back? Where they go?

Those that fairly understood what Bitcoin is, i doubt will forgot about it anytime soon.

I hope these get rick quick noobs will stay away. They clearly don't know how markets work. We don't need them back.

Big players are fine accumulating small amounts of coins everyday out of the 3600 mined.  And doing so things are quiet and price stays low.  Can only keep a lid on price for so long though. 

Big players have already bought in a long time ago. Currently it is a great time for small traders and believers to buy in before they miss another train.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: gentlemand on May 30, 2015, 10:11:30 PM

But where are they? We need to get them back? Where they go?

Those that fairly understood what Bitcoin is, i doubt will forgot about it anytime soon.

There's a world of difference between people who actually believe in Bitcoin and those who piled in expecting tenfold gains in a month.

There will always be a lot more of the latter and they'd be buying solidified lumps of baby vomit if they thought it would make them the same gains. I think we can lump most of the Chinese buyers into that category. The government made sure they had no other use for it.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: Octavius on May 30, 2015, 10:13:16 PM
1W MACD is green = get rich quick!

It's just stupidy and greedy like someone said

"Greedy people try to get rich quick but don't realize they're headed for poverty."


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: volatilebtc on May 31, 2015, 06:05:02 AM
May be due to the hack of bitcointalk forum. Its a level where bitcoin alone is fighting against all altcoins.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: anderson00673 on May 31, 2015, 06:47:08 AM
I don't think anyone knows for sure why the price is stable.  But I think the more stable the better.  Slower price growth should be favorable to wider adoption, which in turn should eventually lead to much higher prices.  At least that is my theory but I am willing to admit that I could be wrong.


Title: Re: Why is bitcoin so stable now?
Post by: inca on May 31, 2015, 08:04:43 AM
Supply on exchange equals demand on exchange.

I think this is the phase where bulls just need to hang on.

At the end of a bear market it always seems no one wants the commodity in question. Heavy accumulation is taking place now. Another pump in bitcoin is near certain at some stage given how trivial it is to break the trend and set off a buying frenzy. This time round there are many more on and off ramps. Should make things extremely exciting and the challenge will be hanging on to your coins!