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Title: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: lua on September 09, 2012, 06:19:15 PM
Sometimes you don't have the time or imagination to magically write five brand new posts while still restrictered to the Newbe section. So, why posts and not replies? Or I am just confusing terms because of my Spanish-HighSchool level of English?


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on September 09, 2012, 06:20:24 PM
replies are posts.  this was a post.

you could do five posts in about five seconds.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: ShittyBitcoinDrawer on September 09, 2012, 06:21:51 PM
Don't you need to be on for 4 hours as well? Or am I mistaken?


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on September 09, 2012, 06:23:15 PM
Don't you need to be on for 4 hours as well? Or am I mistaken?

Yes you do and the clock is based on the system clock (which times out after inactivity) just pointing out the 5 post requirement is trivially easy to obtain.

The 5 post and 4 hour requirements to reduce the number of people who sign up specifically to spam or troll.  They likely aren't going away.  They don't prevent everyone (maybe not even a majority) but they do reduce their numbers which make it easier for mods to clean up the main forums.  Everyone had to go through it.  You can still read the main forums and many experienced users do respond to questions in the noob forum.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: jojo69 on September 09, 2012, 06:29:44 PM
replies are posts.  this was a post.

you could do five posts in about five seconds.

We should require that the five posts be original essays of 1500 words or more demonstrating familiarity with Bitcoin


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: dree12 on September 09, 2012, 06:43:22 PM
replies are posts.  this was a post.

you could do five posts in about five seconds.
That would require at least 100 seconds, if I'm not mistaken.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: jwzguy on September 09, 2012, 06:46:17 PM
replies are posts.  this was a post.

you could do five posts in about five seconds.
That would require at least 100 seconds, if I'm not mistaken.
People who argue with obvious hyperbole should be restricted to the newbie section forever.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: bitvientiane on September 09, 2012, 06:54:12 PM
I think it actually has a big impact on spam prevention.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Intoxicated_Sheep on September 09, 2012, 11:11:05 PM
Because they are the rules.  ;)


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: chyort on September 09, 2012, 11:23:18 PM
replies are posts.  this was a post.

you could do five posts in about five seconds.

which makes this part of the system entirely pointless..

Whee now i have 3 pointless posts and i am almost out of this section...  ::)


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on September 09, 2012, 11:45:09 PM
replies are posts.  this was a post.

you could do five posts in about five seconds.

which makes this part of the system entirely pointless..

Whee now i have 3 pointless posts and i am almost out of this section...  ::)
Not entirely pointless.  The "auto-troll" was the type of person who infested these forums last year and the infestation was pretty bad.

Troll creates and account, blatantly spams and trollers, gets banned, creates another.  The zero cost means they would make dozens and dozens of accounts.  This makes trolling require at least some "work".  Trolls tends to not like the working part.  Even if they make one accont if it gets banned 10 minutes out of the noob zone they tend to not make as many accounts.

Your logic is like saying "Seatbelts don't save 100% of lives therefore seatbelts should be removed".  The stats show the noob rules reduce (not eliminate) the amount of trolling nonsense among new members. 


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: jojo69 on September 09, 2012, 11:50:49 PM
also, there is the whitelist thread


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: chyort on September 10, 2012, 12:30:22 AM
replies are posts.  this was a post.

you could do five posts in about five seconds.

which makes this part of the system entirely pointless..

Whee now i have 3 pointless posts and i am almost out of this section...  ::)
Not entirely pointless.  The "auto-troll" was the type of person who infested these forums last year and the infestation was pretty bad.

Troll creates and account, blatantly spams and trollers, gets banned, creates another.  The zero cost means they would make dozens and dozens of accounts.  This makes trolling require at least some "work".  Trolls tends to not like the working part.  Even if they make one accont if it gets banned 10 minutes out of the noob zone they tend to not make as many accounts.

Your logic is like saying "Seatbelts don't save 100% of lives therefore seatbelts should be removed".  The stats show the noob rules reduce (not eliminate) the amount of trolling nonsense among new members. 

Nah, 5 pointless posts requires no work and can be done in as you said five seconds. By your own definition that doesn't qualify as "work". Meaning it doesn't repel the trolls... I understand the 4 hour requirement and yes i can see that preventing trolls.

also, there is the whitelist thread
yes, but that actually requires more work than making 5 pointless posts :P and having to wait for a mod to authorize the whitelist.

Trust me, i did consider it months ago when i finally signed up. And lets keep in mind that i had been lurking for months before i eventually signed up because i had nothing i wanted to say. Only after signing up did i see the post requirements and started trying to remember to login when i was simply lurking to build up some hours here and there.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: camjenk on September 10, 2012, 02:38:49 AM
we should keep the system... keep the spammers and trolls out, and force people to get involved with community.

that's what will keep it going... a strong, involved community of peers.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: PrimeDice on September 10, 2012, 03:02:47 AM
I saw someone come up with a system where you would send a certain amount of BTC, which would then be held by the website for a period of time, if you aren't a spammer, you then get the money back.  Interesting to consider.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: rynmln on September 10, 2012, 03:20:43 AM
I saw someone come up with a system where you would send a certain amount of BTC, which would then be held by the website for a period of time, if you aren't a spammer, you then get the money back.  Interesting to consider.

No bitcoins? No rights.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: PrimeDice on September 10, 2012, 03:44:01 AM
I saw someone come up with a system where you would send a certain amount of BTC, which would then be held by the website for a period of time, if you aren't a spammer, you then get the money back.  Interesting to consider.

No bitcoins? No rights.

True.  Many people come here to learn and ask questions before they actually acquire BTC.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: rynmln on September 10, 2012, 04:38:25 AM
I saw someone come up with a system where you would send a certain amount of BTC, which would then be held by the website for a period of time, if you aren't a spammer, you then get the money back.  Interesting to consider.

No bitcoins? No rights.

True.  Many people come here to learn and ask questions before they actually acquire BTC.

And I've found that enabling people to learn is the best way to get people to understand and begin to use BTC. I also appreciate the fact that the newbs are not left unto themselves on this forum. This is a great community.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: dotcom on September 10, 2012, 05:03:44 AM
as already stated, replies are still posts

and honestly ya, I haven't been on this site long, but when i lurk other sections I see little to no spam


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Ashitank on September 10, 2012, 05:08:02 AM
1 more hour to go to get out of here


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Intoxicated_Sheep on September 10, 2012, 09:35:13 AM
> Spaghetti...


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Monster Tent on September 10, 2012, 01:49:19 PM
as already stated, replies are still posts

and honestly ya, I haven't been on this site long, but when i lurk other sections I see little to no spam

Thats because the mods are ninjas.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: jhill38 on September 10, 2012, 11:50:40 PM
Lame rules


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: rynmln on September 10, 2012, 11:52:55 PM
Lame rules

As previously stated you can ask to be white listed.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Monster-Ant on September 11, 2012, 12:54:31 AM
Post Count++

Yay?


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: dotcom on September 11, 2012, 01:02:43 AM
as already stated, replies are still posts

and honestly ya, I haven't been on this site long, but when i lurk other sections I see little to no spam

Thats because the mods are ninjas.

:0


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: MassLass on September 11, 2012, 04:39:09 AM
Just gotta wait it out :]


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 11, 2012, 07:54:21 AM
> Spaghetti...

Jesus Fuckin' Christ! That post shouldn't could unless you included an image like below.

http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/022010/small_jesus%20on%20spaghetti.jpg


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on September 11, 2012, 02:18:04 PM
If one's serious about these forums, the n00b requirements are hardly onerous, to be fair.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Endgame on September 11, 2012, 02:38:44 PM
If one's serious about these forums, the n00b requirements are hardly onerous, to be fair.
+1
This is why I never understood why people bother to apply for whitelisting. 5 posts and 4 hours is nothing.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: azrezrz on September 11, 2012, 02:47:32 PM
To keep all the trolls out :)


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: rynmln on September 11, 2012, 05:04:07 PM
If one's serious about these forums, the n00b requirements are hardly onerous, to be fair.
+1
This is why I never understood why people bother to apply for whitelisting. 5 posts and 4 hours is nothing.

Yeah, you're right. But when you're banned from posting to any other board it sort of limits your options and makes it seem like a longer amount of time than it really is.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Pi on September 11, 2012, 06:37:25 PM
It's not so bad in the newb section... You can still learn a ton just browsing


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: kruzer on September 11, 2012, 08:14:53 PM
It's not so bad in the newb section... You can still learn a ton just browsing
but after 4+ hours of reading you still have to invent five silly posts just to ask a question
3 to go


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Roy Badami on September 11, 2012, 09:11:26 PM
What are the rules for whitelisting, then?


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Retik on September 11, 2012, 10:06:29 PM
It's not so bad.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: majinx on September 12, 2012, 04:07:18 AM
1 and a 2 and a....


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Capital One Corporation on September 12, 2012, 02:58:15 PM
this rule may be helpful after I'm not a newbie anymore. It will be very soon. I will bring everyone a fantastic investment opportunity.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: aparigraha on September 12, 2012, 06:18:36 PM
> Spaghetti...

Best post so far


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Nolo on September 14, 2012, 03:40:19 AM
1 more hour to go to get out of here

tick...tick...tick...I'm at 49 minutes....tick...tick...tick...50 now :) 


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: timmah on September 14, 2012, 09:33:04 AM
i sure hope these count as posts because I need to contact the *** at torwallet.net because they have 200+ of my btc locked up in their torwallet in a "Database Error!" on their webpage online wallet!!!!  With no one answering emails or anything... am I just screwed out of my 2k?!!!

I hope they fix their website!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: nraz on September 14, 2012, 02:05:45 PM
i sure hope these count as posts because I need to contact the *** at torwallet.net because they have 200+ of my btc locked up in their torwallet in a "Database Error!" on their webpage online wallet!!!!  With no one answering emails or anything... am I just screwed out of my 2k?!!!

I hope they fix their website!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm afraid you have been scammed, my friend.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: TORwallet on September 14, 2012, 11:49:43 PM
i sure hope these count as posts because I need to contact the *** at torwallet.net because they have 200+ of my btc locked up in their torwallet in a "Database Error!" on their webpage online wallet!!!!  With no one answering emails or anything... am I just screwed out of my 2k?!!!

I hope they fix their website!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm afraid you have been scammed, my friend.

He has not been scammed.

Please reply to our email with the information requested so we can get this resolved.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: therustytrombone on September 18, 2012, 05:42:13 PM
i sure hope these count as posts because I need to contact the *** at torwallet.net because they have 200+ of my btc locked up in their torwallet in a "Database Error!" on their webpage online wallet!!!!  With no one answering emails or anything... am I just screwed out of my 2k?!!!

I hope they fix their website!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm afraid you have been scammed, my friend.

He has not been scammed.

Please reply to our email with the information requested so we can get this resolved.


Can you please do us the courtesy of answering our e-mails to you, now?


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: rpgreseller on September 18, 2012, 06:53:35 PM
Yay. This is my third post. Sorry guys.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: bitcoinw on September 18, 2012, 08:21:28 PM
Is there any stats around spam accounts before and after this policy came in effect?
Not complaining about it i think it is a good idea. Just trying to get a sense of its effectiveness.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: trabwqem on December 17, 2012, 09:14:28 AM
i sure hope these count as posts because I need to contact the *** at torwallet.net because they have 200+ of my btc locked up in their torwallet in a "Database Error!" on their webpage online wallet!!!!  With no one answering emails or anything... am I just screwed out of my 2k?!!!

I hope they fix their website!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm afraid you have been scammed, my friend.

He has not been scammed.

Please reply to our email with the information requested so we can get this resolved.

If he hasn't been scammed then why aren't you replying to any emails, including my own? Where are everybody's BTC? Where's my BTC? Real answers would be nice. You do know that you could have made more money running a legitimate service instead of being a scamming sack of trash, right? Not that I'm expecting to hear anything back from your trashy self anyway. Please go die in a fire, Thank you.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: medji on December 17, 2012, 09:28:48 AM
Because of something awful


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Razick on December 17, 2012, 01:41:39 PM
The four hours is what gets me. I'm not a big forumer... I have a life.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: John (John K.) on December 17, 2012, 04:38:56 PM
as already stated, replies are still posts

and honestly ya, I haven't been on this site long, but when i lurk other sections I see little to no spam

Thats because the mods are ninjas.
And the newbie requirements. Now all the spammers/trolls would be confined to a few subforums, and that takes out the headache of locating them A LOT.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Yuhfhrh on December 18, 2012, 12:31:56 AM
The four hours is what gets me. I'm not a big forumer... I have a life.

You do realize you were whitelisted yesterday right?  :D


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: madpower on December 18, 2012, 12:33:06 AM
I joined to ask someone a question via PM and I can't do it for 4 hours *sigh*


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Yuhfhrh on December 18, 2012, 12:34:30 AM
I joined to ask someone a question via PM and I can't do it for 4 hours *sigh*

You can send a pm after you have 1 post.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Nikola on December 18, 2012, 02:40:06 AM
Post #3 for me...


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Nikola on December 18, 2012, 02:45:50 AM
Post #3 for me...
The "BitMinter" pool is down BTW (since at least 5pm PDT on 12-17-12).  :(


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: btcards on December 18, 2012, 03:57:00 AM
Newb.


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: TooCasual on December 18, 2012, 07:33:57 AM
Posting is fun though...


Title: Re: Why do I have to write five POSTS to get out of here?
Post by: Nikola on December 18, 2012, 10:36:43 AM

Post #3 for me...
The "BitMinter" pool is down BTW (since at least 5pm PDT on 12-17-12).  :(
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"BitMiner" is back online, and this is post #6 for me...I am free to post elsewhere...thanks for "putting up" w/me!  :D