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We can use an escrow to do this. Escrow will be funded BEFORE trust removal.

Fitting as you all hate me over 2 BTC I'll do 2 BTC. You could keep it tomatocage or pay back Bigbitz since you always personally have believed I owe him or something. Anyways I want Quickseller off default trust. Badly.

Payment will be released after 180 days of him being removed from your trust AND Quickseller NOT being on default trust from anyone else to prevent any "tricks" or "loopholes". Also, you are not allowed to add anyone else to your default trust list to prevent you adding one of Quickseller's alts back to default trust.

Let me know.

Wow, just wow.  ::)

The question whether or not your offer is serious and legitimate aside, this is an extremely unfavorable rule.
You could pay someone else on DefaultTrust e.g. 1 BTC to include Quickseller again to dodge the 2 BTC payment to TC.
Not fair. ::)

Trust me, I will make sure all loopholes are covered. If Quickseller is put on default trust by anyone in the 180 day period, the payment will be released BACK to me. The whole point of this is to get Quickseller OFF default trust.

Why don't you simply use that 2 BTC to pay back BigBiz?

Also who is to say that I don't already have other accounts that are on default trust that may or may not be on tomatocage's trust list ;)

Edit:do you want me to escrow for this?

At this point, even if I felt I owed Bigbitz do you think the 2 BTC would have any other impact besides making me feel better at night, assuming I feel bad or something? I dont owe anything and dont feel I do but just going with your feedbacks...

If I repaid the 2 BTC I would still have red trust. Its not like if I paid 2 BTC all red trust would be removed, haha NO. So is there any motivation whatsoever to make a repayment? No. And anyways, I've offered bigbitz as a FRIENDLY GESTURE for his mistake, the offer of paying him $250 USD at time of conversion to BTC, the amount his BTC was worth USD wise at the time of sending. He refused multiple times to get it over with, so thats that.

WTF? Why this thread is here in the meta section?  ::) I have said if quickseller would be added again in the defaultTrust list depth 2 under someone .... the creation of this type of thread would not be stopped.



Exactly.

Well this proves that quickseller accusations and trust ratings are pretty much legit all the times, i will save this thread to link it whenever someone says quickseller is abusing the trust system, at the end the scammers will always show their real face, like here.

Thanks for letting us know that you are indeed a trash scammer.

Are you saying that negative trust should remain on an account even after they resolve their scam? Don't you think that would somewhat take away the incentive to repay stolen money?

There are plenty of examples of me removing negative trust after the scam has been resolved, although those people never made a huge spectacle about it so those instances were not exactly high profile.

Xinxan you're the first person I've truly ever ignored and that honestly makes you really pathetic you are more annoying than I am. Learn to contribute something to the conversation.

Actually, wait. No I see whats happening here. You're an alt of Quickseller who is being built up to be resold later. Time to rate you appropriately.

100% guarantee it will stay red overall and will switch most likely to "untrustworthy past scammer". So yes, no motivation. Why take a chance on something like that when I could just buy a green rated account for that said 2 BTC with 0 risk? Oh wait thats genius!

Well considering your tendencies of giving death threats to people that find out about your alts and your scams I would find it unlikely that neutral trust would ever be appropriate.

If your argument is that even if you repaid what you stole then you would still have negative trust then why are you so butthurt about me outing your accounts.

Also you seem to be making similar arguments that one other specific person is making. You don't have any additional alts do you? Or is it that just all scammers think alike. 

I told you multiple times Quickseller I have 3 alts remaining. I created a total of 4 accounts within 3 months of getting rid of the KingofSports and bought 1. You've found two: this one and Whatsbitcoin. Try to find the remaining. Its Easter all over again! With an easter egg hunt for KOS alts for ya ;) hope I now made the rest of your saturday enjoyable since I know you will stop at nothing today to try and find them. You won't though...they're being built up quietly ever so slowly.

I will. Thanks for the invitation. Please don't come complaining when I out them and give them negative trust.

Lol if you find them I'd be shocked. One of them you may, but the other two I try not to even speak fluent english :D

What will you think if you will come to know that BitcoinDistributor is an alt of Quickseller? // sarcasm http://techforum.it/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/asd.gif. Please guys , stop to open thread like this (I have already reported it but it seems that this is the right section, so it will not be moved).


I have noticed also another users gave a negative trust to BitcoinDistributor, so now the problem is not anymore quickseller but you should coinvince a lot of users  ;D.

It has always been more than just Quickseller redsnow. People think the reason I'm doing this campaign is because of the negative trust he gave me, its not. Hes an unethical person, someone with a conflict of interest in regards to having default trust and just ultimately immature and flagging way too many accounts.

Idc if everyone on earth red flagged this account. I just want Quickseller off DT. In fact I'd be honored if Theymos wrote something on my trust wall!

Which alts do I have exactly? I actually haven't been selling accounts for months now. Why do you think the number of posts I have been making from this account has increased so much recently? I occasionally am asked by others to buy accounts for them to leverage my expertise in the market, they pay me in advance and I do, however your claim of conflict of interest would not apply in that case.

If you are concerned about me flagging so many accounts then maybe you should tell people to stop trying to scam on bitcointalk so much.

Who knows all QS alts?

Better yet who is Quickseller in real life?

You don't have 2BTC.  Ever since you guaranteed I'd be killed on my trip to Mexico, I've realized all your words are lies.   ::)



Tell him a million times if you want - a lie is still a lie.

thats the most negative rep ive ever seen on any account ever

Prepare to be surprised
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=67058

Haha, you had to cite TF. At least he's still going by TF now - been changing his name every couple of weeks IIRC.


Not going to happen. First off if TC accepted it, it would just prove his judgement couldn't be trusted anyway (he'd be removed from DefaultTrust) and a majority of people do agree that QS should be on the default trust list.

Secondly, there is nothing to stop anyone else readding him anyway (not to mention have fun finding an escrow who'll hold an 180 day trade) which effectively makes it impossible for this to work.


And while I'm here. lol.

That was a morning surprise to me.

@OP: TC won't accept this. Your negative feedback will stay there. If you repay 2BTC, your rating may decrease. Do what you need to.

I actually lol'd irl. Brilliant XD

But yeaaaah something about the whole "you can't add anyone to your DefaultTrust list for 180 days" seems like a baaaad idea...especially for someone on depth 1 of DefaultTrust, y'know? Then the whole bribery thing...

I'll feed the troll for 5 minutes, take a look at my bitcoin address on file, in the last month alone its rec'd over 2 BTC. I can provide a couple other BTC addresses.

If you feel determined to prove that I can not put out 2 BTC within 24 hours to my name, I will gladly escrow up to said 2 BTC 1:1 wager with you using tomatocage as escrow. I can prove up to about 10-15 BTC right now so please feel free to test me. I would gladly earn some free BTC off you.

I will even instruct tomatocage to release all of the said BTC you lose in the bet to Bigbitz. If you would like to call my bluff like you think please do message me!

This offer is funny. So when i add Quickseller on my default trust list, can i earn an easy 2 BTC then? :D I mean nothing would have changed to him and me, except that i would have 2 more Coins.

Business opportunites everywhere... though i dont expect that anyone would really spend that amount for such a little thing.

You have clearly not meet mr. TF yet.
He is still active here on the forum.
I believe he has -9999 with the current rating system.

Well it seems Tomatocage in an unrelated occurence did remove Quickseller from depth 2 of DefaultTrust.

KoS, I believe you owe Tomatocage 2 BTC, even if he didn't remove Quickseller to fulfil your request.

and now the other conditions:


Not going to happen. First off if TC accepted it, it would just prove his judgement couldn't be trusted anyway (he'd be removed from DefaultTrust) and a majority of people do agree that QS should be on the default trust list.

Secondly, there is nothing to stop anyone else readding him anyway (not to mention have fun finding an escrow who'll hold an 180 day trade) which effectively makes it impossible for this to work.

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Of course TC would not expect the payment because OP has red trust even without quickseller

KoS seems to have a habit of defaulting on 2 BTC deals, so I doubt that he is going to pay out because of this  :D

That's quite an offer just to remove someone from default trust. How does it matter anyway? If you don't trust someone on default trust list, add a tilde ~ before their name in your settings. Problem solved.

Unless of course this is just an ego thing, my mind is still boggled.

remove it first.
get money.
negative feedback again, and report to admin.

??? What are you talking about?

TC removed me from his list shortly after this thread was created although he said that he was not aware of this offer when he removed me.

So you say he earned some quick 2BTC? Maybe i should add you on default trust, wait until i get 2BTC and take you off again. (/whisper... We can share the 2BTC... :P) :D:D:D:D

Jokes aside... i dont think he took 2 BTC. If someone would pay him then he would have done so by pm, not in public. Publicity would only lower the chance of that being successful.

I didn't say that he took the 2 BTC. I am only stating that he was offered 2 BTC, I had made a mistake in tagging ndnhc as an alt of someone who tried to extort one of his campaign participants at a time when ndnhc happened to be away for several days resulting in him not responding to the allegation for several days (and no one noticed the hole in my theory - carra23 did however she did not disclose the flaw to me at all or to anyone publicly - despite several people looking at the evidence closely) then I was removed shortly thereafter.

The timing of this thread being created and ndnhc getting his name cleared and my removal was very close to each other. The ndnhc incident was clearly a frame job with me being the target. At this point I don't have any solid evidence as to who was behind it however my current suspicion is that it was KoS and that twipple is an alt of KoS, although I don't have any solid evidence of this.....yet.

I did own a default trust account for a brief period after I was removed although it has since been sold so technically KoS's terms were not met because I had an alt on default trust.  

Overall I think the chances of TC taking the 2 BTC is low, however this thread is worth mentioning when discussing removals from default trust.

Edit: you can add me to your trust list if you like although I doubt anyone would offer you money to remove me because you are not on level 1 default trust. KOS wanted TC to remove me from his trust list because me being on his trust list resulted in my ratings showing up by default to all users. If you have any kind of custom trust list then the chances are high that I am in your trust network already.

Why not pay 20 BTC for a negative trust on him(Just kidding  ;D)
He will end up like Vod, just wait and watch.I can bet on it  :P

At this time , one would think if someone had an offer like this one . Or if one had a red trust on his account and ofcourse a guy like you who could offer this much heavy bucks for just removing trust . Both tomatocage and quickseller seem to be legit . However , tomatocage seems more reliable than him .

KoS was most probably joking here and he will not pay anyone for removing a user from the DT. The fact of saying that he was offered the amount and shortly after that he removed a user doesn't make sense as TC has earned a lot of reputation and trust here and I don't even think the nhndc claim was to frame just 1 user. Anyone could have done it with the intention of hurting nhndc's trust. I don't even think anyone was aware of nhndc being offline for that time period as he wasn't in contact of anybody and this incident was merely to tease him rather than any other user. However, this incident has made both quite alert of what could happen to anyone of us.

Yes, i remember that thread. Though you mentioned that you did not get a tip about it, which makes it unlikely that you were the target.

Adding you to my trust list... you know how this would end.  ::) Not that i like fighting but its so annoying and so immensely time consuming that its no fun anymore. It seems there are people in the forum that have way too much time and i cant compete with that.
I trust you though im not fully ok with the way you rate negative, like the worhipper_ case. I think that would not have needed a red trust though its your decision. I think you got a lot of contrary opinions on that too.

Anyway... i hope the forum is by far not so corrupted how one could think when reading some things on here. :D