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If you have 30'000$ Cash in which coines you would invest ? Or which coins you would buy ?

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short litecoin

If I had to spend it all on coins I would invest 95 percent on BTC and the rest on various alt coins in hopes to make a quick buck.  I figure many would do the same here if we have to spend the 30k on crytos.

Yes Litecoin and BTC are good but you cant get there much profit like you can get from altcoins where you can buy from 0.000....$ there its easyier to double or increase tenfold. Last Year i hold Blackcoin at the begin and sell them at 8 cent so there was good profit and for the moment i just have Stabilit Shares XSI since a new China Team on it it grows up good but i looking for other altcoins to invest now.

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Put half in StartCoin and half in Bitcoin Capital crypto fund https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/2081/_bitcoin-capital-crypto-fund-managed-by-max-keiser-simon-dixon (https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/2081/_bitcoin-capital-crypto-fund-managed-by-max-keiser-simon-dixon)

Personally I hope those twats Max Keiser and Russell Brand go bankrupt myself.

I would get a nice position in Bitcoin, Litecoin, Namecoin, NXT and NEM. Those seem and have been solid in my eyes for a long time :)

$15,000 BTC
$10,000 LTC
$5,000 NXT (Or day trading if you're in to the type of thing)

simply BTC and LTC

Keep it in cash.

Asssuming that I had to spend it all on cryptos rather than fiat, I'd probably put most of it in Bitcoin, with a large chunk of the rest in NXT and Litecoin (only because LTC tends to spike more than BTC during a rally). I'd also put small amounts in other promising coins and platforms such as BitShares, Counterparty, NEM, DASH, Ethereum, Monero, Ripple, Dogecoin, Peercoin, and a few others.


Is this even possible?

I know that it's possible to short BTC on platforms such as Bitfinex but I've never heard of it being possible to short altcoins before.

I would buy some physical coins.

So I invest in cryptos and in gold/silver too.

And even if cryptos fail they still might have some value for collectors

In addition to the big coins, in which smaller coin (altcoin) you would invest momently ?

Regards

i'd spread it around 10% each in : SDC, Monero, NXT, someother coin after doing to reading into it. Day trading can be fun just don't get emotional about it

the rest in BTC or buy something nice for yourself ;p but i'd never invest all of that even if i could.

I would avoid any altcoins until you educate yourself about them.  There are many that are just pump and dump schemes.  The good ones can get lost in the shuffle, and so can your money.  If you want cryptos I would put all of it into bitcoins, maybe buy some hash over on hashnest, and learn as much as you can before buying anything else.  And watch out for those HYIPs.  They are all scams and I would hate to see anyone lose money to them.

Are the people mentioning Litecoin insane or just bagholders? I could not think of a worse investment (unless you're shorting).

Stick to BTC and if you have to choose an alt, go with NXT. Amazing development and community.

There is only two coin which I would invest if I have 30, 000 USD.

1. Bitcoin
2. [Whatever]Coin - start my own crypto currency.

As i know there are coins with good development like Guldencoin and NXT this coins are intresting. Are there coins where are coming with good development ? Are there coins with the sense to buy something with it not just trading to get profit like the most coins are.

Historically speaking, Litecoin has tended to follow Bitcoin's price trajectory but in a much more exaggerated manner (actually this is true for most altcoins). When Bitcoin went from $13 to $1,200 in 2013 (i.e. a 100x difference), Litecoin went from $0.07 to $48 in the same period (i.e. a 700x difference). When Bitcoin went from $900 to $300 in 2014 (i.e. a 66% drop in value), Litecoin went from $20 to $2 (i.e. a 90% drop in value).

Of course, there is no guarantee that history will repeat itself, and it's possible that LTC prices will continue to fall despite a rising BTC price (certainly the altcoin market is a lot more competitive now compared with 2011-2013 and the development of scrypt ASICs has also eliminated one of Litecoin's main benefits over Bitcoin).

Put 20% down on a house.  Turn it into a rental.

Or buy tobacco & alcohol stocks.

I myself dont believe that Litecoin will grow up again to 10$ and more like it was on 2014. And that the Bitcoin grow up again to 1000$+ beacause there made to much mistakes and betrayal of trust to much steal of coins scam and stuff. I think the people have fear to invest beacause what you do with BTC ore LTC you just trading there are no other use i think by only 21 milion coins to get this under people. And people are skeptical to invest after this bashing from media bad headlines. I think this crypto currency will come but not with bitcoin or other altcoins. Maybe with a new edition and officially from Banks with big support.
   

NXT and Litecoin do have a few things in common, believe it or not, especially when it came to CoinBase.

Both NXT and Litecoin were showing signs of decline until (incorrect) rumors of them being added to CoinBase.  Charlie Lee took an actual job at CoinBase and many alleged that meant Litecoin would soon be added.  NXT had this guy called John Manglaviti who went around marketing and even made speeches stating CoinBase would soon add NXT.  

 Fast forward, today - obviously - we know that neither LiteCoin or NXT were never added to CoinBase and CoinBase's position is 100% Bitcoin.  Both Litecoin and NXT have since, albeit slowly, been dropping in capitalization.


This comes to an uncomfortable truth - both Litecoin and NXT's big rebounds, back in the day, were arguably the result of rumor (in NXT's case more deceit as John was clearly just making stuff up).   Past performance of those two coins, especially when people were speculating on rumor, shouldn't be taken as indication that either coin will ever succeed or take off again.

So yes you can physically throw $30,000 at either coin but this post should serve as warning that, outside of the 2013 pump, both LTC and NXT's later rebounds were the result of (incorrect) rumors.  Nobody is really sending Litecoin or NXT up anytime soon. 

Litecoin went bonkers after Karl Gray visited Keiser Report - https://twitter.com/paradimeshift/status/403533299227697152 (https://twitter.com/paradimeshift/status/403533299227697152)

Now its a completely different coin thats in his sight:

https://twitter.com/paradimeshift/status/599705347725524992 (https://twitter.com/paradimeshift/status/599705347725524992)
https://twitter.com/paradimeshift/status/599705801750499328 (https://twitter.com/paradimeshift/status/599705801750499328)

https://twitter.com/paradimeshift/status/599697191855202304 (https://twitter.com/paradimeshift/status/599697191855202304)

You have now been warned.

that's a nice one hype
where is Maxcoin now again?

You may find the answer in one of the tweets. https://twitter.com/paradimeshift/status/599707123178610689

StartCoin is part of an entire financial ecosystem while Maxcoin newer was.

I would start a real business with $30k.

Bitcoin is more like gambling.

Decide on the features you value in a cryptosystem and then research the coins that fit those parameters. How you want to divvy the investment holdings depends more on you than the coin(s) you are investing or trading.

Nxt and emunie

I will put half in Peercoin and half in Litecoin and wait a couple of months.

And which coins you would buy with a Price from 0.000....$

to add to this.  after litecoin did not change to prevent scypt asics i have written it off as a never rebound coin.

I would be a whale in crypto and can pump altcoins up and down with my capital to earn more btc.

i would not invest the $30,000 in cryptocurrency since the risk is high. i have other investment plans in mind that will return more profit for that amount of cash.
for crypto markets i only invest small amount and play around with that.

what coins?
mainly bitcoin, especially if i see a decline in price, i would jump in.
and the rest i never invest long term in any altcoin, no matter what the name is. i invest in coins that i feel they have potential to give me profit.

Put it into Bitcoin and hold. Any altcoin investments are risky. You need to research them before going in. As for next I would suggest you stay away from that. The distribution of coins is poor.

https://nxtblocks.info/#section/blockexplorer_distribution (https://nxtblocks.info/#section/blockexplorer_distribution) - 2487 Next addresses hold 98.77% of all coins

https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-litecoin-addresses.html (https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-litecoin-addresses.html) - 15076 Litecoin addresses hold 95% of all coins

http://bitcoinrichlist.com/charts/bitcoin-distribution-by-address?atblock=350000 (http://bitcoinrichlist.com/charts/bitcoin-distribution-by-address?atblock=350000) - 123083 Bitcoin addresses hold 97% of all coins

 


 

Mintcoin. The mintings would be huge and worth a lot.

your so right ! On most of these Coins are just some Holders.

Not sure if that is very usefull, in bitcoin and ltc, there are change adresses, your coins shift from one address to another even withouth most users notice about, for example, you send 0.5BTC and have 4 BTC -> there is an aoutpu of 1BTC from which 0.5BTC goes to your target and 0.5 back to another change address which you have the keys, now you have 3BTC address and 0.5BTC address
This makes the number of used accounts in BTC and clones increasse very easy

And about what to do with that 30k, don't ask here, is the best thing I can say... do your own research and don't get biased by any of the 98% trolls here

If i would have $30.000 cash i would probably buy some Bitcoins. So far as soon as i get them i fast get tempted to buy Moneros. I cant help myself since always looks so cheap.  ::)

15k BTC
5k NXT
+(2k Assets on NXT)
5k ETH
1k NEM
1k XCR
+
1k ($100 dollars into every coin that passes 10 million in Market Cap which I don't currently own)

HOLD EVERYTHING until 2025+

@ 10 million marketcap, if you buy at that level and the coin wins out and goes to 100 billion... you make +/-10,000x.

You mean like Ripple?


Litecoin is pretty much the original altcoin (I know Namecoin technically deserves this honor but who forks Namecoin?).

ASIC resistance was certainly one of the main attractive points about Litecoin for a very long time (and before that it was GPU resistance) but there are many other things going for Litecoin which are still valid today. Litecoin might not be particularly interesting feature-wise but compared to other altcoins out there, they still have the most highly developed infrastructure, network hashrate and security, trading volume, no. of businesses which accept it, adoption, brand recognition, media exposure, support of exchanges, network effects, etc.

Also, ASIC resistant coins which employ multiple algorithms (e.g. Quark, Myriadcoin, etc.) have been developed in the wake of scrypt ASICs and yet almost all of these have failed so far - so perhaps ASIC resistance isn't as important as some people think.


NXT encourages address reuse while Bitcoin discourages it. There are also more Bitcoin addresses than NXT addresses because Bitcoin is the most popular crypto. In terms of distribution, NXT is comparable to Bitcoin nowadays and might even be better if you take Satoshi's 1 million BTC stash that's spread across thousands of addresses into account.

Here's an infographic from February 2014. The NXT has remained fairly low during the past several months so things have almost certainly improved since this chart was made:

http://s30.postimg.org/rqygxwq6p/nola_Custom.jpg (http://s30.postimg.org/rfh0l59qp/nola.jpg)


Isn't a 100 billion dollar market cap a bit unrealistic? Even Bitcoin only managed to reach barely above 10 billion dollars during its peak. For an altcoin to have a 100 billion dollar market cap, Bitcoin's market cap would probably be in the trillions. :D

Why invest in NXT ? Why so much belive in this Coin that he will go up ? So much belive in it whats your reasson to invest in it ?

Currently most (if not all) alts are tied to the BTC price.

look into shadow cashes tech!

i'd only invest 5% or something of that in cryptos. would still be $1500 that could grow without too much risk.

The idea is that SOME protocol will reach 100 billion. BTC is probably it, so for sure invest there - but, if BTC fails or something else overtakes it, then they will rise to some incredible valuation.

Whoever "wins" this ultimate race will be in the trillion plus range. I hope many of them rise together and form a large ecosystem - but, it could be that only 1 or 2 survive.

I can't be excited about 1,150 addresses owning 10,000 NXT ($130 USD) after 1.5-2 years.  I actually thought the user adoption of NXT was a lot more than just 1,150 addresses owning a decent amount and I am shocked to read it is this low after so much time.

Have to recall addresses =/= people, one person can own multiple addresses.   It is a common security practice to split your funds across many addresses, to prevent the scenario of one theft taking everything at once.

So we're not talking about 1,150 addresses but really 100s of human users with multiple addresses.  NXT has no user adoption.

We're going into looney land if we're recommending people to invest $1000s of their hard earned money into a community which only has 100s of human users and many 4chan-like and other idiot personalities (also a long history of security incidents, developers disappearing, technical problems, abandoned or delayed projects, et cetera).

If I could "spare" $30K, my crypto portfolio would be as follows:

$10K BTC  (Equals 45 BTC, leader of the pack, but must innovate! and lest we forget... $1200 per btc in 2013)
$10K XRP  (Equals 1.25 million XRP, huge potential upside w/banks & fintech, @ less than a penny per XRP, it's a bargain)
$5K LTC/PPC/XPM  (Solid, in sleep-mode legacy coins with good devs, could breakout anytime... or not)
$5K for BLK, BTS, Dash, STR or ?  (pick a coin w/innovative feature, high daily volume, low entry price, potential high flyer?)

My 2 crypto coins... :)

H.

if you can afford a loss of your 30k $ then i would invest it into the following coins:

25% BTC
25% NXT
25% NEM
5% XRP
5% Qora
10% Monero
5% other liquid alts

 ;)

Looking it that way, I would buy Crysler 300c for the $10000, and invest the rest in BTC LTC and PPC. Atleast I would be very happy with the car. The investment will be a good bonus or...

Only 10% for Monero?  The Monerotards are going to swarm this thread any second now, demanding you increase the percentage to at least 50%.


As well why would anyone recommend anything for BTC?  The earliest adopters saw 450,000x return (BTC was originally fractions of a cent) and nobody investing anew today is going to see that.    Even if you believe in $10,000 BTC that's only a return of 50x and yet you're taking all the capital risk (losing all the sleep) while the guys who bought BTC, years ago, to acquire weed are laughing harder to the bank


I know a broken clock is right twice a day but the people who bought and held at $1250 are hurting, as are those who bought at $800, $600, $400... et cetera..   Most of the people who went exclusively alts in 2013 and diversified did better than the $1250 crowd who came in middle of the bubble.

NXT is currently the most mature 2.0 crypto, as well as the one with the most developed ecosystem due to the popularity of their asset exchange. They're kinda like the "Swiss army knife" of cryptos - which I guess could be either a good thing or a bad thing depending on the way you look at it.


That image is from February 2014 - i.e. only ~3 months after NXT was released:

Most people would do that but based on my understand of the OP you must spend it on cryptos my friend.  :)

well, it seems he has more to spend. maybe it is 5% of its stake, so eh owns 600k $ and wants to invest a part of them into crypto.

That's a difficult question,30000$ is a big amount whether to keep it or invest it  is not an easy choice. ;)  .... I would invest in bitcoin and litecoin

buy  btc

i will buy nxt and ltc