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Economy => Currency exchange => Topic started by: tsoPANos on June 04, 2015, 01:06:17 PM



Title: paysafe for btc?
Post by: tsoPANos on June 04, 2015, 01:06:17 PM
I might be interested in the future to buy bitcoin with paysafecard.

Have you tried this?
What was your first impressions?
What is the safest and/or cheapest way to buy btc with payssafe?

Thank in advance.


Title: Re: paysafe for btc?
Post by: ruller on June 04, 2015, 01:22:35 PM
even a paysafe card can be canceled/reversed

and the card work only in the country it was bought + now you need to register an account at paysafe website


Title: Re: paysafe for btc?
Post by: Gismo28 on June 05, 2015, 01:26:16 AM
exchange your psc on virwox so you can convert it to linden dollars (Second Life) currency!
then you can convert your linden dollars to btc easily!

disadvantage: 20%Fees


Title: Re: paysafe for btc?
Post by: MarkMJ on June 05, 2015, 09:12:31 AM
even a paysafe card can be canceled/reversed

and the card work only in the country it was bought + now you need to register an account at paysafe website

PSC can only get canceled not reversed
The pin can be uses outside of your country
I hope soon someone will open a psc to btc services


Title: Re: paysafe for btc?
Post by: ruller on June 05, 2015, 09:14:26 AM
even a paysafe card can be canceled/reversed

and the card work only in the country it was bought + now you need to register an account at paysafe website

PSC can only get canceled not reversed
The pin can be uses outside of your country
I hope soon someone will open a psc to btc services

thats not true you can NOT use a german PSC in the US ..


Title: Re: paysafe for btc?
Post by: Borisz on June 05, 2015, 09:48:08 AM
I have previously tried to use PSC to buy BTC by first converting it to e.g. OKpay and then send those funds to some exchange.

I was using http://www.ukashx.com/ about a year ago and I'm still waiting for that 10€... Sent multiple messages and emails asking about the payment, no response at all. (Hence I'm strongly advising against this particular site)

The problem with these anonymous payment systems is that the only apparent reason (that I see) people using it is to scam others.


Title: Re: paysafe for btc?
Post by: MarkMJ on June 05, 2015, 10:23:10 AM
I have previously tried to use PSC to buy BTC by first converting it to e.g. OKpay and then send those funds to some exchange.

I was using http://www.ukashx.com/ about a year ago and I'm still waiting for that 10€... Sent multiple messages and emails asking about the payment, no response at all. (Hence I'm strongly advising against this particular site)

The problem with these anonymous payment systems is that the only apparent reason (that I see) people using it is to scam others.

Yes is true,ukashx.com is scam
You should check the google before trading
10 euro is not a big amount but is something
Check 3 time before make any deal.


Title: Re: paysafe for btc?
Post by: Gismo28 on June 05, 2015, 11:11:44 AM
I have previously tried to use PSC to buy BTC by first converting it to e.g. OKpay and then send those funds to some exchange.

I was using http://www.ukashx.com/ about a year ago and I'm still waiting for that 10€... Sent multiple messages and emails asking about the payment, no response at all. (Hence I'm strongly advising against this particular site)

The problem with these anonymous payment systems is that the only apparent reason (that I see) people using it is to scam others.

unfortunately almost all of these exchange sites are pure scam!
here are all sites where i know its scam!

------------------------------------------------
exchanger-bitcoin.com/paysafecard-to-bitcoin/
 http://paysafecard-exchange.biz/
http://ukash-wallet.com/index.php?do=ukash
http://www.validexchanger.com/p/w-cognito.html
-----------------------------------------------------
stay away off it!
always check your sites here: http://scamadviser.com/


Title: Re: paysafe for btc?
Post by: Gismo28 on June 05, 2015, 11:13:20 AM
even a paysafe card can be canceled/reversed

and the card work only in the country it was bought + now you need to register an account at paysafe website

PSC can only get canceled not reversed
The pin can be uses outside of your country
I hope soon someone will open a psc to btc services

thats not true you can NOT use a german PSC in the US ..
germany has strictly moneylaunder laws!


Title: Re: paysafe for btc?
Post by: tsoPANos on June 06, 2015, 10:19:30 AM
exchange your psc on virwox so you can convert it to linden dollars (Second Life) currency!
then you can convert your linden dollars to btc easily!

disadvantage: 20%Fees

Ahh I know that site. Actually I have already used their service.

But sadly, it is 20 for paysafecard->fiat, and then there are addittional fees for:
fiat-> linden dollars--> btc->and additional fee to withdraw to your personal wallet.
Virwox steals money
The total fees could reach 30% or more!

I have previously tried to use PSC to buy BTC by first converting it to e.g. OKpay and then send those funds to some exchange.

I was using http://www.ukashx.com/ about a year ago and I'm still waiting for that 10€... Sent multiple messages and emails asking about the payment, no response at all. (Hence I'm strongly advising against this particular site)

The problem with these anonymous payment systems is that the only apparent reason (that I see) people using it is to scam others.

This is why I'm here. It looks like there is no way to safely buy btc with paysafecard without loosing half of your money is the way. There are a lot of scammers.

Is paysafe region-locked? There are multiple opinions on that.
I can't be sure


Title: Re: paysafe for btc?
Post by: ruller on June 06, 2015, 10:33:32 AM
it's country locked 100%


Title: Re: paysafe for btc?
Post by: Borisz on June 07, 2015, 12:16:34 PM
The fact is, buying BTC is a pain. Simple as that. Exchanges charge fees on deposit so what I saw in some places is that it is not even worth to buy 100€ worth of coins, only if you want to invest 1000€+. (bye-bye tech-savy students)

Also, the verification process is ridiculous. Why would I need to provide ID, proof of residence etc? If I go to a currency exchange kiosk in my country I tell them I need x amount of $ and that's it. They tell me how much I have to pay, I give the money and bye. I get the problem of money laundering etc., but seriously...

Best option to buy BTC if you want to avoid the hassle is to buy from someone who you know and has some, find someone on localbitcoins or find a Bitcoin ATM. I have an ATM in my country, next time I'm around I'll just go there, give an address, drop the cash and go home. Why would all this need to be more complicated than this?


Title: Re: paysafe for btc?
Post by: sha779 on September 20, 2017, 08:56:54 PM
JUST GOT SCAMMED BY PAXFUL AND VALIVEXCHANGER.COM, ONE FOR 100 USD OTHER FOR 50 usd; I MADE A DISPUE WHICH LASTED 3 MONTHS WITHOUT ANY REPLY FROM MODERATOR; AT THE END I SENT TO SUPPORT MESSAGE I WAS GONNA MAKE A REVIEW ON COINDESK, THE DAY AFTER I WON DISPUTE, BUT I VE SENT  ALLRRADY ALL MY DOCUMENTS, PASSPORT, ID, DRIVING LICENSE, BANK ACCOUNT, SALARY, PROOF PAYMENTS, CREDIT CARD, AND MUCH MORE (ALL MY LIFE), IT WAS A SOCIAL ENGEENERING ATTACK, BECAUSE AS MOD WAS NOT REPLYING I WAS GETTING STRESS AND SENDING MORE & MORE PROOFS THAT I VE BEEN SCAMMED...OK I WON DISPUTE, WAS SO HAPPY BUT, I TRIED TO LOG IN MY PAXFUL'S ACCOUNT, OF COURSE GOOGLE AUTH RANDOM CODE WAS NOT MATCHING ANYMORE...FOR VALIDEXCHANGER, I DID NOT GET ONE REPLY, NOTHING JUST LOST 50usd...PLEASE AVOID BUYING BITCOINS WITH GIFT CARDS OR THINGS LIKE THIS...THEY ARE ALL SCAMS...I LIVE IN SWITZERLAND AND HOPEFULLY BITCOIN ARE NOW AVALAIBLE IN ALL TRAINTICKETS DEVICES ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY, WITH NO LIMIT AND NO ID VERIFICATION, JUST AMAZING....BYE