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No my laptop is high quality. If you actually read the post you would see that Bitcoin QT has stopped synchronizing for me, it is not making any progress, not even 1 block more.

less than 1 hour to synchronise a new v0.10.2 bitcoin core on a delocalized server :

Server Xeon E3 1230v2    16 Go    2 x 1 To    1Gbit/sec LAN DSL

It's been a while since I downloaded the bitcoin wallet.
How long does it take to synch a new wallet now?

I've decided to give 0.045 BTC to the person who gives me the info I need to get my wallet working.

I actually did that yesterday, downloaded the 21 GB torrent and put it in that folder. For some reason Bitcoin QT keeps renaming it as bootstrap.dat.old, which makes me think it's not using it.

Ok I think I figured it out, the firewall is probably blocking any incoming connections.

Ok I think I figured it out, the firewall is probably blocking any incoming connections. Mcafee (which I never wanted) controls the windows firewall. I can't even view the mcafee settings since my trial expired, what a piece of shit  ::)

So maybe bitcoin qt isnt that bad afterall, I'll update if it works after removing firewall.

uninstall the antivirus software.

Bitcoin Core (formerly QT) wasn't designed as the ultimate user friendly wallet.. thats why noobs shouldn't run Bitcoin Core. Bitcoin Core should only be run by those that want to support the network and understand the requeriments (HD space and a powerful computer). Sadly I wish Bitcoin Core as less sys requeriment intensive so it could be run in any cheap laptop.
I still use it because im so used to it and im basicaly lazy to move my funds to any other wallet.
I also find more secure a wallet.dat file encrypted than a Brain wallet for example. I wish I could trust brain wallets but im too paranoid lol.

I can't imagine being a noob and trying to download the whole blockchain in 2015.

Bitcoin Core was the first wallet that I ever used/downloaded, I still have it but only use it for change really & the signature campaign that I am in, the entirety of my main stash is in cold storage.
I initially used Core because back then as a total noob I wanted to use the 'official product', basically just wanted to be safe & not get scammed.
It takes way too long to download & even now when I catch up on a weeks worth of blocks or something it often gets stuck on e.g. '12 hours to go' for ages so I have to close it down & start it back up again to kick it back into action.
If I started again as a noob today with more knowledge I wouldn't bother downloading the whole blockchain with Core.

No, I will never leave my coins and private keys on a website I don't control. Maybe that's fine for people who use small amounts of Bitcoin, I use hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of Bitcoin so it simply isn't an option.

I'm going to have to go ahead and advise against storing hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of BTC on a laptop connected to the internet. 

2015-06-07 20:06:24 ERROR: AcceptBlockHeader : block is marked invalid

I'm going to have to go ahead and advise against storing hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of BTC on a laptop connected to the internet. 

Have you tried restarting your computer?   :P

Bitcoin Core was the first wallet that I ever used/downloaded, I still have it but only use it for change really & the signature campaign that I am in, the entirety of my main stash is in cold storage.
I initially used Core because back then as a total noob I wanted to use the 'official product', basically just wanted to be safe & not get scammed.
It takes way too long to download & even now when I catch up on a weeks worth of blocks or something it often gets stuck on e.g. '12 hours to go' for ages so I have to close it down & start it back up again to kick it back into action.
If I started again as a noob today with more knowledge I wouldn't bother downloading the whole blockchain with Core.

I called AT&T to unblock the port, and totally deleted all files and re-installed, and now its downloading nicely. 12 gb so far. Still only in december 2013 tho.

No one hit the nail on the head here for the 0.045 btc bounty, but I'll be sending 0.01 btc to the people who provided hints that pointed me in the right direction once its completely synchronized.

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Time and time again government agencies and banks are publishing laws about Bitcoin that say it is dangerous due to widespread theft, and a laundry list of all other possible negatives with no positives, which is the definition of bias. There are big forces at work trying to keep Bitcoin down and it's had a major effect, Bitcoin's market capitalization has constantly declined for most of the time between now and the peak in late 2013, when Bitcoin hit the scene and got the attention of all the banks and lawmakers. It's been quite steady for 6 months since January though, even bad news constantly released by the government and outright destruction of major Bitcoin players isn't causing drastic crashes. I think this is because Bitcoin is inexorably expanding across the globe and there's more demand to buy it. I think Bitcoin will grow in capitalization nicely from now until many years in the future, unfortunately the government of the USA is likely to obliterate the major Bitcoin corporations like Coinbase, and the smaller corps with several million of sales per year will be forced out of business by regulations. They will say Bitcoin is a direct threat to freedom by funding terrorism and drugs, even though it greatly expands our freedom, and there's magnitudes more greenbacks used for illicit purposes. Ultimately the price of Bitcoin will go sky high as it becomes completely black market and the government and banks cut off all supply flow that they can, and seize as much Bitcoin and money as possible.

Bitcoin corporations who are trying to do it by the book are writing their own death warrants by giving the government complete knowledge of their operations. They won't be around much longer. Major warning signs are already there, Coinbase which used to be a great exchange for all Americans is now banning their biggest customers. It's obvious the government is over their shoulder controlling them, and gradually mutilating their business until one day they issue arrest warrants for all the executives and raid their building, seizing all customer funds regardless of what theyre being used for.

Okay, how about you stop spreading nonsense and propaganda? It is unfortunate that you've had problems with the software. After making such a post, you do not deserve help.
Whenever I've installed Bitcoin Core I had none (zero) problems so far. This is on your end. You have no idea what the word 'difficult' means when setting up things on a computer. Try compiling Bitcoin yourself (or similar projects involving multiple libraries) and see what happens. All the propaganda that the governments are coming after Bitcoin is just FUD. Bitcoin is steadily being adapted by major corporations and legalized in various places. Nobody can stop Bitcoin, deal with it.
You should really educate yourself before you start making such walls of text.

Im against propaganda also, but it's a fact that his ISP blocked bitcoin core port, theres no conspiracy there, it's a fact.
What right do they have to block people's ports? If im paying for a line i want no limits on it, and i want to be asked if i agree with such a thing. This is not DPR Korea.

I've been trying to install Bitcoin QT on my new laptop for several days now.

I've recommended Bitcoin QT to all my customers who use Bitcoin longterm, and never had one successfully install it ever. The average joe simply doesn't understand the internal workings of networks and computers, so they got little chance of a successful Bitcoin install if any problems arise. Seems like big companies like AT&T are default blocking the Bitcoin port, so most people end up with no synchronization and give up. Not pulling that out of my ass, customers tell me that their wallet stopped loading. End result is a lot less nodes and a lot more theft; hackers stealing funds is a major plague that isn't talked about enough, and it scares away many users. The most advanced thing I've seen my customers with is multibit which is kinda better cause users can save their Bitcoins by importing wallet and private keys somewhere else, but still it is quite hackable. And I've had literally hundreds of customers, most use blockchain.info and localbitcoins wallets, both notoriously insecure.

I wonder if it's possible to open up Bitcoin to all ports in a future release? So that our lovely internet companies can't stop Bitcoin nodes from installing as long as the internet is on. Successful core installations would drastically increase.

this qt is indeed horrible
I expected some improvement with patching to 10.2 but instead it jsut got worse

So you're saying that the problem lies in the companies in the USA? That's a bit different from the thread title. This would only be partially Bitcoin QT's problem as it is tied to a single port.
However, I've had a much different experience as I'm across the globe. I haven't found any issue in regards to Bitcoin QT or any other wallet (altcoins; in the past). You have to consider that most of the work is being done on the protocol and internal functions (bugfixes and whatnot) rather than the GUI and simplifying the installation/usage.

You made a mistake. You've patched to 0.10.2; not 10.2. Anyhow I'm still on a older version; what's wrong with 0.10.2?

I wonder if it's possible to open up Bitcoin to all ports in a future release? So that our lovely internet companies can't stop Bitcoin nodes from installing as long as the internet is on. Successful core installations would drastically increase.

I've recommended Bitcoin QT to all my customers who use Bitcoin longterm, and never had one successfully install it ever. The average joe simply doesn't understand the internal workings of networks and computers, so they got little chance of a successful Bitcoin install if any problems arise. Seems like big companies like AT&T are default blocking the Bitcoin port, so most people end up with no synchronization and give up. Not pulling that out of my ass, customers tell me that their wallet stopped loading. End result is a lot less nodes and a lot more theft; hackers stealing funds is a major plague that isn't talked about enough, and it scares away many users. The most advanced thing I've seen my customers with is multibit which is kinda better cause users can save their Bitcoins by importing wallet and private keys somewhere else, but still it is quite hackable. And I've had literally hundreds of customers, most use blockchain.info and localbitcoins wallets, both notoriously insecure.

I wonder if it's possible to open up Bitcoin to all ports in a future release? So that our lovely internet companies can't stop Bitcoin nodes from installing as long as the internet is on. Successful core installations would drastically increase.

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Looks like you're on to something here, 0 incoming connections and 8 outgoing connections.

^ Yet another person that looks down on anyone who isn't a tech expert. I was just asking if it's possible, I wasn't claiming Bitcoin could use all ports.

Does it make you feel better about yourself to rant and rave about other people who you don't think have enough knowledge? Everyone is an expert in their own field, but you will never learn anything from others if you insult everyone that isn't a tech geek. Hopefully you don't act like that in real life, or you'll never climb the business/corporate ladder, they'll hide you in a dark corner of a server room.

I certainly have enough technical knowledge to handle Bitcoin transactions smoothly, there's not much to it.

Contrary to what some have posted, you do need 8333 open outgoing to sync the blockchain.

dont despair, it took me arround 3-4 days to my laptop to have it fully sync, was more hard than on my current pc.

but is just a question of time, soon orlater it will sync, just be patient ;) sometimes on my laptop it seems like was frozen but it was not

btw you can check it the database it is increasing, if it is, then you just need to w8 a little bit more :)

^ Yet another person that looks down on anyone who isn't a tech expert. I was just asking if it's possible, I wasn't claiming Bitcoin could use all ports.

Does it make you feel better about yourself to rant and rave about other people who you don't think have enough knowledge? Everyone is an expert in their own field, but you will never learn anything from others if you insult everyone that isn't a tech geek. Hopefully you don't act like that in real life, or you'll never climb the business/corporate ladder, they'll hide you in a dark corner of a server room.

I certainly have enough technical knowledge to handle Bitcoin transactions smoothly, there's not much to it.

I also think that it's not worth helping you because when you ask for help and then disregard the answers you get, it's just rude. This is like stopping someone in the street to get directions and then walking the opposite way.

And even worse, you end up with some ridiculous rant about the core client based on your 'technical skills'. Obviously, it has no merit and simply shows that not only you don't know, but you don't even know that you don't know.

Another bullshit claim. As of this moment getaddr.bitnodes.io shows 59 full nodes listening on a non-default port, different than 8333.

If my bitcoin executable is whitelisted on my firewall, do I still need to manually open 8333? How can I know if thats the correct port?
I haven't changed anything and from what i've read here I assume 8333 is still the default port?

Ok I think I figured it out, the firewall is probably blocking any incoming connections. Mcafee (which I never wanted) controls the windows firewall. I can't even view the mcafee settings since my trial expired, what a piece of shit  ::)

So maybe bitcoin qt isnt that bad afterall, I'll update if it works after removing firewall.

McAfee creates more problems than it solves. Also good luck in getting that out of your PC. It kind of latches on to anything like a leech and very hard to remove. Much worse than a virus.

It took ages to me too and this was before 0.0.9 when it was even slower

3-4 days to download the blockchain is not viable tho, we are losing a TON of potential nodes with such a sloppy client.

The problem here is that it seems that Core thinks that all of the nodes that it has connected are misbehaving. It calculated their banscore, and that is greater than the threshold set, so it automatically disconnects. It looks like it might not be connecting to any nodes because of this. Open help > debug window and tell us what you see next to "Number of connections" I think it is stuck at 28 weeks because that was the most recent block that the bootstrap.dat file had.

3-4 days to download the blockchain is not viable tho, we are losing a TON of potential nodes with such a sloppy client.

I´m fairly ignorant but i´m trying to learn (without losing the few bitcoin i have). What is the best way to update Bitcoin QT? For someone that as a poor understanding is kind of scary. I dont even know the version that i´m running :-[ Is there a step by step manual or something?

I agree with op.
New members don't need to use qt.
Just use blockchain wallet or a similar trusted wallet.
This is what I do.

Blockchain wallet is not trusted at all. The trusted ones are Bitcoin Core, multibit electrum,etc.