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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: greek_hephaestus on June 11, 2015, 10:56:31 AM



Title: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: greek_hephaestus on June 11, 2015, 10:56:31 AM
http://www.crypto-joker.net/picts/Crypto-Joker-Main-Logo-866X290.jpg
http://www.crypto-joker.net/ (http://www.crypto-joker.net/)

> The Crypto-Joker Game is the only Game in the Bitcoin Ecosystem, that Pays 60% of
the Total Daily Entries Amount, to a Lucky Winner!!!

> Version 2 Launched!!!

> Based on suggestions from our participants and friends, we released Version 2 of the Crypto-Joker Game!!!

> More Profit and Fair Enough for You!!!

> Everything is Clear and Proven by Blockchain Transactions ID's!!!

> You can easily check the Entries Amount and the Winning Payout through the Blockchain!!!

> Every Day New Game Draw!!!

> Every Day New Different Deposit Address!!!

> Instant Daily Payout of the Profit to the Winners Payout Address!!!

> Each Entry to the Game costs 0,01BTC!!!

> Simply send from 0.01BTC and Up (No Max Limit) to the Deposit Address in the Today's Game page!!!

> Multiple Entries are Allowed!!!

> Random Selection of Winner!!!

> The Selection is made by Pseudo-Random Generator!!!

> Detailed Game Statistics!!!


> Draw Results published every day on Website http://www.crypto-joker.net/crypto-joker_draws.htm (http://www.crypto-joker.net/crypto-

joker_draws.htm)
on Bitcointalk and on our Facebook Page

https://www.facebook.com/cryptojokergame (https://www.facebook.com/cryptojokergame)


Thank You Very Much for your Entry and Support!!!


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: greek_hephaestus on June 11, 2015, 11:02:02 AM
***Reserved***


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: greek_hephaestus on June 11, 2015, 11:03:47 AM
http://www.crypto-joker.net/picts/Crypto-Joker-TodaysGame-768X120_05062015.jpg
http://www.crypto-joker.net/crypto-joker_todaysgame.htm (http://www.crypto-joker.net/crypto-joker_todaysgame.htm)

The Crypto-Joker Today's Game

Today Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount, to a Lucky Winner!!!

Thank You Very Much for your Entry and Support!!!



Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: xiionqz on June 11, 2015, 01:22:18 PM
What the difference between version 1 and 2?


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: greek_hephaestus on June 11, 2015, 03:32:10 PM
What the difference between version 1 and 2?

Thank you very much for your question.
In Version 1 Profits are 50% of the Total Daily Entries Amount, to a Lucky Winner.
Also each participant has one entry for each deposit.
In Version 2 we have make changes based on suggestions from our participants and friends.
In Version 2, Profits are 60% of of the Total Daily Entries Amount, to a Lucky Winner.
Each Entry to the Game costs 0,01BTC.
So the total entries per deposit depends from the deposit amount. i.e. Entries = Deposit/0.01BTC
More profitable, Fair enough.


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: newcripto on June 11, 2015, 04:07:54 PM
What I liked most on you site is gorgeous joker by herself.But there is some problem with internal calendar and date calculator.For you to be easy I just uploaded this image from the main page your site.Have a look and fix it for everything to be normal.
http://i57.tinypic.com/wuq9uw.jpg


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: greek_hephaestus on June 11, 2015, 08:33:53 PM
What I liked most on you site is gorgeous joker by herself.But there is some problem with internal calendar and date calculator.For you to be easy I just uploaded this image from the main page your site.Have a look and fix it for everything to be normal.
http://i57.tinypic.com/wuq9uw.jpg

Date fixed. Thank you!!!


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: seoincorporation on June 11, 2015, 08:42:22 PM
If you pay 60% that mean the house edge is 40%... this is a game where you always win.

Is there some fairness in this game? how you chose the winner user?


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: greek_hephaestus on June 12, 2015, 06:51:47 AM
If you pay 60% that mean the house edge is 40%... this is a game where you always win.

Is there some fairness in this game? how you chose the winner user?

And do you prefer a game that house does not win?
Or you prefer a honest and clear game?
In all gambling games the house wins.
The winner chosen by pseudo-random generator.


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: lottoitaliano on June 12, 2015, 07:05:34 AM
Yes, in all gambling the house win, but the % of winning house is very low (more dice have 1%) and not 40 or 50 %  ;D

One question, the pseudo-random generator, is provably fair? Thanks


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: ComboChris on June 12, 2015, 07:28:51 AM
If you pay 60% that mean the house edge is 40%... this is a game where you always win.

Is there some fairness in this game? how you chose the winner user?

And do you prefer a game that house does not win?
Or you prefer a honest and clear game?
In all gambling games the house wins.
The winner chosen by pseudo-random generator.
The house does always win but 40% house edge is outrageous. It's as much of a ripoff as government lotteries are.
The most interesting thing about this game is tha, if only one person plays, that person will simply lose 40% of their money without any chance of winning more.
In order to make this game playable you should lower the house edge a lot more and implement a provably fair algorithm.


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: greek_hephaestus on June 12, 2015, 07:34:51 AM
If you pay 60% that mean the house edge is 40%... this is a game where you always win.

Is there some fairness in this game? how you chose the winner user?

And do you prefer a game that house does not win?
Or you prefer a honest and clear game?
In all gambling games the house wins.
The winner chosen by pseudo-random generator.
The house does always win but 40% house edge is outrageous. It's as much of a ripoff as government lotteries are.
The most interesting thing about this game is tha, if only one person plays, that person will simply lose 40% of their money without any chance of winning more.
In order to make this game playable you should lower the house edge a lot more and implement a provably fair algorithm.

Have you any suggestions about the house edge and what algorithm do you think as fair?


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: Coef on June 12, 2015, 07:38:40 AM
Using a PRNG to generate the winner isn't really a good idea to me as it is not provably fair. You could be doing it fairly or you could be not, and the gamblers have no way to tell.
You may want to check how Peerbet raffles use the next block hash to make the process provably fair. https://www.peerbet.org/support/faq.aspx


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: greek_hephaestus on June 12, 2015, 07:41:08 AM
http://www.crypto-joker.net/picts/Crypto-Joker-Draws-768X120_05062015.jpg
http://www.crypto-joker.net/ (http://www.crypto-joker.net/)

The Crypto-Joker Today's Draw

We Paid Today the amount of 2.16BTC to a Lucky Winner!!!

Draw Result
Date                    11/06/2015
Deposit Address    172U6BihBsmgccuzDYGZX2H4oSBFSS4Dij
Game Entries        360
Entries Amount    3.6
Winner                1Q5a7jiCvwsL4PQpfvnWbwEJYat1ftSxU5
Winner Paid Amount     2.16
Payout Transaction ID    9484233d5a6c52d902282ab50ea39fc9858acef937261fe7395b638af9aa35cf

http://www.crypto-joker.net/crypto-joker_draw_11062015.htm (http://www.crypto-joker.net/crypto-joker_draw_11062015.htm)


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: greek_hephaestus on June 13, 2015, 07:03:07 AM
http://www.crypto-joker.net/picts/Crypto-Joker-Draws-768X120_05062015.jpg
http://www.crypto-joker.net/ (http://www.crypto-joker.net/)

The Crypto-Joker Today's Draw

We Paid Today the amount of 1BTC to a Lucky Winner!!!

Draw Result
Date                    12/06/2015
Deposit Address    1SyLqD9EXd8jnBd9p25SkZthoYQhKdSZA
Game Entries        200
Entries Amount    2
Winner                1HQkQ2pcubBPT8sxQcjyvdnyE3fVr6Dymm
Winner Paid Amount     1
Payout Transaction ID    349ea2f5cb8b0f9d29f7d82bfe7f4f542fec47f7ae570bb45bbfdfa21e84742b

http://www.crypto-joker.net/crypto-joker_draw_12062015.htm (http://www.crypto-joker.net/crypto-joker_draw_12062015.htm)


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: boopy265420 on June 13, 2015, 08:46:25 AM
I would say 90% of the total daily entries amount should be distributed for winnings and 10% is very decent house edge.This will encourage and attract more players to participate in this lottery.If you are agreed to decrease the house edge you will see the difference in next lotteries.


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: Finchy on June 14, 2015, 06:26:57 AM
If you pay 60% that mean the house edge is 40%... this is a game where you always win.

Is there some fairness in this game? how you chose the winner user?

Yeah, this game doesn't seem fair at all to me. How can we check the way the winners are drawn is fair and uncheatable?

What I liked most on you site is gorgeous joker by herself.

That's Harley Quinn from Batman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley_Quinn

Margot Robbie will be playing her in the upcoming Suicide Squad film.


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: newcripto on June 14, 2015, 07:49:39 AM
The percentage of the distribution amount is really very low and admin needs to re-consider the concern of players.The more the prize will be higher the more people will come to play.People care much of house edge percentage.Admin,any specific reason to keep the 40% of the total played amount as house edge/fee ?


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: subSTRATA on June 14, 2015, 08:06:37 AM
40% rake is way too high for running a simple raffle service, and it isnt even that much of an improvement from the previous 50% rake either, something along the lines of 90-95% would make a lot more sense.


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: greek_hephaestus on June 14, 2015, 09:20:42 AM
http://www.crypto-joker.net/picts/Crypto-Joker-Draws-768X120_05062015.jpg
http://www.crypto-joker.net/ (http://www.crypto-joker.net/)

The Crypto-Joker Today's Draw

We Paid Today the amount of 0.84BTC to a Lucky Winner!!!

Draw Result
Date                    13/06/2015
Deposit Address    1JwE8e8WAND82yEHtiSZLPxnQhtMWMt2nG
Game Entries        140
Entries Amount    1.4
Winner                13Z4PuuHF6ktvMfPnf7PrgFNVrz6RrPEYe
Winner Paid Amount     0.84
Payout Transaction ID    3c94495c96b446b27fa2fa2ac3d13512604fffcaec4fb4dde73756e974e49910

http://www.crypto-joker.net/crypto-joker_draw_13062015.htm (http://www.crypto-joker.net/crypto-joker_draw_13062015.htm)


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: fast2fix on June 14, 2015, 09:44:58 AM
hmm 40% house edge still lots of people play? either the people who are playing are dumb or it's fake lottery wins?(played by owner himself lol)


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: greek_hephaestus on June 15, 2015, 08:29:12 AM
http://www.crypto-joker.net/picts/Crypto-Joker-Draws-768X120_05062015.jpg
http://www.crypto-joker.net/ (http://www.crypto-joker.net/)

The Crypto-Joker Today's Draw

We Paid Today the amount of 0.87BTC to a Lucky Winner!!!

Draw Result
Date                    14/06/2015
Deposit Address    12MLRKhSNoAQm7NvYDgbzhddwMrT5LugX1
Game Entries        145
Entries Amount    1.45
Winner                1KMtnxAFfRU8e5Fg8CduFvrWSEgGuGro5d
Winner Paid Amount     0.87
Payout Transaction ID    ae22d2ca8449d6c158eae021fa89eb29fc7c58d945f1ab09e5a7443ecdcc4f1b

http://www.crypto-joker.net/crypto-joker_draw_14062015.htm (http://www.crypto-joker.net/crypto-joker_draw_14062015.htm)


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: tsoPANos on June 15, 2015, 11:20:33 AM
hmm 40% house edge still lots of people play? either the people who are playing are dumb or it's fake lottery wins?(played by owner himself lol)
40% is very big, while the site owner operates the site for pennies with bitcoin.
Anything bigger than 3% is a lot, for a bitcoin gambling site.
Also I din't like the site layout.


Title: Re: The Crypto-Joker Game Version 2 ***Pays 60% of the Total Daily Entries Amount***
Post by: boopy265420 on June 15, 2015, 11:25:50 AM
hmm 40% house edge still lots of people play? either the people who are playing are dumb or it's fake lottery wins?(played by owner himself lol)
40% is very big, while the site owner operates the site for pennies with bitcoin.
Anything bigger than 3% is a lot, for a bitcoin gambling site.
Also I din't like the site layout.
You raised a very valid point that on each draw played bets number is over 100 per lottery with 60% distributed amount of total fund it is very suspicious.What I have seen in bitcoin gambling people do much care of house edge and winning funds and usually they don't try anything like this.But here is totally different picture as many people are playing without having any question about house edge and prize.