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Title: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 16, 2015, 12:45:40 PM

It's always exciting when your coin gets listed on an exchange.
Imagine what its like when an exchange gets listed on your coin!

Today at a Bitcoin conference in Denmark, at this very moment, Ronny Boesing is announcing just that.

Cryptonomex, Bit-X, and CCEDK are announcing a new partnership that will change everything in the crypto industry.
Here's Ronny's Press Release and our Big BitShares Bulletin of the Week:

Danish Firm Set to Revolutionize the Cryptocurrency Industry (https://bitshares.org/blog/2015/06/16/danish-firm-set-to-revolutionize-cryptocurrency-industry/)



Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 16, 2015, 12:46:06 PM
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Note to the usual suspects  

I'm going to accept someone's suggestion to make this a self-moderated thread.  
Polite and professional comments and questions will be welcomed.  
Deliberately misleading or offensive material will be politely and professionally deleted.


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 16, 2015, 12:49:52 PM
The BitShares Blockchain now has a whole new purpose.

Not only is it a second generation coin containing a decentralized exchange that produces smart-currency products...
Now it's also a transparent inter-company network letting exchanges give their customers and assets trading access to customers and assets on other exchanges.

Instead of competing with traditional exchanges,
we are multiplying the markets they can enjoy by networking with each other.


Here's the details about why this is revolutionary:

Now that you've had time to absorb all the cool new features in BitShares 2.0, its time to start unveiling some of the implications about what is possible.  In this post, I'll lay out one of them.

The BitShares blockchain can serve as a backbone
to support live trading between traditional exchanges. 

Now, instead of having separate shallow markets inside their own stovepipe order books, they can use BitShares to enable all their customers to trade all their assets with the customers and assets of other exchanges.  Small exchanges can band together to attract medium exchanges to join them to compete with still bigger exchanges.  Like a rolling stone.

This greatly expands the network effect, liquidity and market depth of all participants.  A bigger pie for everyone.

And with our new referral system, every participating exchange keeps their own profits from signing up their own customers and issuing their own assets.

We have the perfect way for them to safely compete and cooperate on a single, compelling, transparent exchange network.

The BitShares Exchange Network.

So, exchanges can do more than just serve as gateways and bridges.
They can publish their own order books transparently on our blockchain.
So everyone can KNOW that they are honest and solvent.

And every customer holds the keys to their own assets, fully decentralized where they won't be such juicy targets for hackers.
With easy to use multi-sig accounts to make those decentralized accounts even more secure.

BitShares 2.0 has the industrial strength to handle the workload of all member crypto exchanges combined.
It is the perfect application to serve as an inter exchange networking back bone.
(Almost like we planned it that way.)


Yeah, but it will never happen, right?

Not so fast! Check out this week's Big BitShares Announcement!

CCEDK.com will put its exchange on a transparent block chain offering to trade with other exchanges there.
(And provide them fiat ramps and crypto-aware debit card support in the mix.)


Read their news release here. (https://bitshares.org/blog/2015/06/16/danish-firm-set-to-revolutionize-cryptocurrency-industry/)


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: DACMonkey on June 16, 2015, 01:34:47 PM
Well that is good news. The newb.


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: altcoinex on June 16, 2015, 01:45:35 PM
Sounds pretty nifty, is there any technical documentation on how its facilitated?


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: Newmine on June 16, 2015, 01:58:34 PM
Sounds pretty nifty, is there any technical documentation on how its facilitated?

It's proprietary and a secret. The BitShares guys used BTS holders funds to create their secret centralized for profit company that is going to license all the Bitshares code.

Stay away from this scam. Every six months these guys are asking for money from their Koolaid drinkers.


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 16, 2015, 02:09:45 PM
Sounds pretty nifty, is there any technical documentation on how its facilitated?

It's proprietary and a secret. The BitShares guys used BTS holders funds to create their secret centralized for profit company that is going to license all the Bitshares code.

Stay away from this scam. Every six months these guys are asking for money from their Koolaid drinkers.

It is open source licensed for unrestricted use by BitShares, a decentralized unmanned exchange run by its stakeholders.  

Cryptonomex is a centralized, for profit, flesh and blood software company founded by a bunch of young geeks with big dreams.

The stuff Silicon Valley legends are made of.

And yes, we are in a never-ending fund raising mode - big plans require a reliable ability to pay the bills.

We intend to create a whole new playing field and be the best team on it.

That's what investors expect in the high tech start up arena.

:)


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 16, 2015, 02:17:09 PM


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 16, 2015, 03:28:08 PM
I liked this parallel article on cryptonewstoday.com.  Gives another perspective.

http://cryptonewsday.com/ccedk-exchange-to-move-order-books-onto-decentralized-bitshares-exchange/ (http://cryptonewsday.com/ccedk-exchange-to-move-order-books-onto-decentralized-bitshares-exchange/)



Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 16, 2015, 03:30:52 PM
Here's another one of Ronny's slides from his presentation at the Bitcoin conference in Denmark today...



Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 16, 2015, 05:30:32 PM

Oh, and if it wasn't obvious, this is great news for all you other coins.

Our multi-currency Nanocard also lets you spend your coins just like a debit card.

So now there's really no need to go around trying to get merchants to accept your coin.

Just get these guys to accept it!

This levels the playing field with Bitcoin's network effect just a little bit.

http://i.gyazo.com/3a910e488f8bb605d2a9030188f63839.png

There.  Another peace offering for you.  :)



Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 16, 2015, 06:44:20 PM
From Ronny's slides in Denmark:



Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 16, 2015, 06:53:38 PM
Ronny Boesing pleased that his presentation went well in Denmark.



Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 17, 2015, 12:42:51 AM
We've been having fun watching this map fill in with dots for a while now.

It seems like there are probably some people on this forum who might like to be the first to put their home town on our map.

Feel free to stake your bragging rights in the "I was there when..." category.

https://i.imgur.com/6lnucBp.png
View the map (http://www.zeemaps.com/view?group=1162907&x=-80.400616&y=37.224179&z=6)
Add yourself to the map (https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1162907)


2015-02-25: 120
2015-03-04: 130
2015-06-15: 146 members


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: brekyrself on June 17, 2015, 01:13:24 AM
Can't wait to see this up and running.  If successful, this will change crypto as we know it.

The BitShares community is tackling real world financial issues and with the referral system in place could cause a huge snowball effect.  "Thinking Bigger" is going to pay off.


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 17, 2015, 01:22:16 PM
This just out in Bitcoin Magazine:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/20867/bitshares-2-0-plans-adapt-new-smartchains-cryptotechnology/ (https://bitcoinmagazine.com/20867/bitshares-2-0-plans-adapt-new-smartchains-cryptotechnology/)


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 17, 2015, 01:37:59 PM
My personal Testimony
 
This, is, AWESOME.
 
  • I SEPA transferred (IBAN & BIC) some euros into CCEDK.
  • The euros showed up in my account at CCEDK in about 24 hours.
  • I was emailed upon the deposit.
  • I traded some of it into BTS.
  • I initiated a withdrawal to my BTS wallet.
  • It emailed me a hash that I copied/pasted into the withdrawal page.
  • A few seconds later, here it is:
https://i.imgur.com/w3COmCz.png
 
So, if you haven't tried CCEDK yet, get in there now, you'll love it!
My NanoCard should arrive this week too.. I'm going to the (fiat only) coffee shop to spend some some crypto! 8)


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: Bisha on June 17, 2015, 01:57:53 PM
I remember Bitcoin Indonesia showing some interested in BitShares a while back, any news on that? Have you or do you plan to contact them?


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 17, 2015, 03:14:21 PM
I remember Bitcoin Indonesia showing some interested in BitShares a while back, any news on that? Have you or do you plan to contact them?

Thanks for the lead.  Do you have a point of contact?


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 17, 2015, 07:12:46 PM
Ronny's after-action review...

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ccedk-bit-x-revolutionize-cryptocurrency-industry-ronny-boesing?trk=pulse_spock-articles (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ccedk-bit-x-revolutionize-cryptocurrency-industry-ronny-boesing?trk=pulse_spock-articles)

"Proof they Work (PtW)"



Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: Bisha on June 17, 2015, 08:27:53 PM
I remember Bitcoin Indonesia showing some interested in BitShares a while back, any news on that? Have you or do you plan to contact them?

Thanks for the lead.  Do you have a point of contact?
Their CEO apparently has an account at bitsharestalk, it's just a matter of trying to reach out to them

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15330.msg199599.html#msg199599

they didn't chose yet at that time, maybe now we would be offer a better service and convince them?


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 18, 2015, 12:00:17 PM
The OP CCEDK announcement is starting to bring in questions in our email hopper.
While answering one of them last night I had the opportunity to address three Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ).
I figured others might have the same questions, so I'll post my answers here as well...

Astute Student of the State of the Crypto Art:
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1. Fantastic! very powerful stuff. Lets talk about security for a bit.
"5. Security. No one can freeze, seize, hack or attack your wealth. You are always in control and your identity can never be stolen. "

They went on to ask these three questions in bold below:


1. Where is BitShares in the centralized - decentralized spectrum?

BitShares lies in the "optimally decentralized" part of the spectrum.  Every single share participates in selecting which nodes get to sign blocks and how many different block signers their should be.  So control of the network is maximally decentralized among the Bitshareholders.  They vote to build the multi-node "machine" that does the rote task of signing blocks that document all legal transactions.  Everyone can observe whether this machine is functioning correctly and remove any malfunctioning nodes in ten seconds.  Right now we have 101 of those nodes so no single node signs more than 1% of the blocks. In BitShares 2.0, the voters will control how many nodes they want to pay for. Compare that to bitcoin:

a)  Three unelected companies sign 51% of the blocks while it takes over 51 of our 101 elected nodes each signing 1%.
b)  If mining companies misbehave, they cannot be removed by the coin holders, vs our nodes can be fired by removing their votes in 10 seconds.

So we would say that Bitcoin is very near the centralized end of the spectrum while BitShares is completely decentralized where it matters - in who controls what nodes sign blocks and how often.  The fact that 3 people vs 51 people do the majority of the book-keeping (block signing) is a red herring.  Bitcoinholders have no control over their signers and Bitshareholders have absolute control over our signers.

http://bytemaster.github.io/article/2015/01/12/Decentralization-Scalability-and-Fault-Tolerance-of-Bitcoin/
http://bytemaster.github.io/article/2015/01/20/The-Minimal-Requirement-for-Decentalization/

Adding more than 101 nodes would not change how they are chosen, it would just add cost.  The purpose of the 101 is for fault tolerance, not decentralization.  These are two orthogonal design axes that people often get confused.
  
2. How does consensus work?

We call it "approval voting" the top 101 nodes with the most shareholder approval take turns signing blocks in random order.

http://bytemaster.github.io/bitshares/2015/01/04/Delegated-Proof-of-Stake-vs-Proof-of-Work/
 
3. Also, how do you manage 100k txs per second?

Bytemaster explained it in a 5 minute video here:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBlAVeVFWFM&index=3&list=PLjgfpSQFJTLoR_CpYDBZMQ8hUSxKSflAF (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBlAVeVFWFM&index=3&list=PLjgfpSQFJTLoR_CpYDBZMQ8hUSxKSflAF)

and in a detailed article here:  
https://bitshares.org/technology/industrial-performance-and-scalability/ (https://bitshares.org/technology/industrial-performance-and-scalability/)



Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 20, 2015, 02:45:08 AM


The following concept seems to have gained traction over on bitsharestalk.org.
What exchanges do you guys think would be most interested in this opportunity?


... they can use BitShares to enable all their customers to trade all their assets with the customers and assets of other exchanges.  Small exchanges can band together to attract medium exchanges to join them to compete with still bigger exchanges.  Like a rolling stone.

 +5% +5% I can absolutely see smaller exchanges doing this. Security and others costs would be eliminated overnight. Why wouldn't you do this is the question.

This just keeps getting better and better.


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 20, 2015, 01:44:13 PM


Nice Bitcoinist Article

CCEDK Exchange Unifies Digital Currency With Card Transactions (http://bitcoinist.net/ccedk-exchange-unifies-digital-currency-card-transactions/)

Unlike most Bitcoin debit card offerings, CCEDK links your Nanocard directly to any of the digital and local currency wallets containing funds. Rather than pre-loading your Bitcoin debit card before you spend any money, CCEDK users will have access to their account funds at any time.

This will work for many top coins, not just BitShares!
Instant off ramp, instant merchant acceptance.
Get your coin accepted more places than Bitcoin.
Like, well, everywhere!



Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: sumantso on June 20, 2015, 02:20:38 PM
This is a great step forward and will help with the peg a lot. I expect BM to eventually change the nature of BitAssets 2.0 to make it balanced rather than favouring sellers. Currently it seems depositors have to pay a premium.


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 21, 2015, 12:28:51 PM
Here's a collection of related links...


http://bitcoinist.net/ccedk-exchange-unifies-digital-currency-card-transactions/
http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/06/09/exclusive-an-interview-with-ronny-boesing-ceo-of-ccedk/
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/danish-firm-ccedk-set-revolutionize-100000753.html
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cryptonomex-inc-partners-danish-cryptocurrency-055300840.html
http://nasdaq.einnews.com/pr_news/271390504/ccedk-bit-x-to-revolutionize-cryptocurrency-industry
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/20470/danish-exchange-ccedk-launches-mastercard-bitcoin-debit-card/
http://www.coinnewsasia.com/crypto-debit-nanocard-mastercard-future-remittance-option-for-filipinos/

Support NanoCard funding your dreams! on HeadTalker! Click on below link for more information
http://www.reddit.com/r/ccedk/comments/39mkhe/support_nanocard_funding_your_dreams_on_headtalker/


Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 25, 2015, 12:45:58 AM
BANX Capital Joins BitShares Exchange Network

Banx Capital (http://banxcapital.com/) announced today that it would be joining the BitShares Exchange Network when version 2.0 is released later this summer.

Banx Announcement (http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/2593119)

Since the end of 2013, Banx has been launching a portfolio of cryptocurrency businesses including a crypto currency exchange, mining company, trading company, physical coin company and a half dozen other enterprises intended to span the industry.

This is an exciting example of two new trends that will change the landscape of the Crypto industry this year:

MEGATREND 1.  Coins Upgrading to Shared Industrial Grade Networks.

BanxShares is the first Top Ten crypto currency on coinmarketcap to recognize it is not stuck with ancient 2014 technology.  Just because it was launched as an isolated stove-pipe blockchain doesn't mean that it is forever locked into the old model where it must cover its own blockchain's maintenance and operating costs and attract its own network effect, exchange listings, and community.  By snapshotting itself as a User Issued Asset (UIA) on the BitShares Exchange network, all those headaches go away.   It will still be an independent top ten coin on the world stage, but beneath the surface it will now be powered by BitShares 2.0.  

Yep.  Why license BitShare's awesome new technology when you can move onto the BitShares network itself for a small one time fee? BanxShares will instantly gain 1 second transaction times and all the other benefits of industrial grade performance - on the same day as BitShares upgrades itself.  

MEGATREND 2.  Exchanges Upgrading to Shared Industrial Grade Networks.

BANX.io is an innovative exchange that specializes in trading the shares of other startup businesses, including its own shares.  By moving onto the BitShares Exchange Network BANX.io instantly gains access to other members' products and services such as the fiat on/off ramps and globally welcomed Nanocard provided by CCEDK and Bit-X.   Its customers can trade with the combined customers and assets brought to the network by all other member exchanges.   And, thanks to the BitShares referral program, BANX.io still collects its share of the network-wide transaction fees paid by every customer it brings to the table.

“Some of the biggest digital currency exchanges have been hacked and the rest are looking over their shoulders” says Banx Capital CEO and Founder Mark Lyford, “BitShares are offering their Smartchain as a safe, level playing field for use by the whole industry.  It can serve as backbone network to all the exchanges as a way for them to trade with and against each other.  With shared order books we will have deeper markets, tighter spreads, and greater liquidity.  And since our customers keep their own keys while trading on this network, combined with hierarchical multi-sig capabilities we can’t get hacked - and our customers can’t get hacked.”

Welcome aboard Banx!




Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on June 25, 2015, 01:03:56 AM
Swift kick.......love the [ANN], btw:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1097350.0

Any actual news to report ?

Seeing two Top Ten assets share one industrial grade Smartchain:  Nice!

Seeing four exchanges partnering to produce a market bigger than their individual stovepipes:  Very Nice!

Realizing that your own coin or exchange is welcome to join the same party:  Priceless!




Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on July 14, 2015, 12:13:01 AM
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Title: Re: [ANN] BitShares Exchange Network
Post by: StanLarimer on July 16, 2015, 05:16:59 PM
Huge article in Forbes Magazine:

Is The NanoCard Bitcoin's 'Killer' App & Can It Transform The Global Remittance Market?
 (http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2015/07/16/is-the-nanocard-bitcoins-killer-app-can-it-transform-the-global-remittance-market/4/)

With it Bitcoin and other crypto get a Just-in-Time off-ramp at any merchant that accepts debit cards.

Key acceptance problem solved for all major crypto-currencies!