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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Fakhoury on June 18, 2015, 11:22:24 PM



Title: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: Fakhoury on June 18, 2015, 11:22:24 PM
Hello,

I got an e-mail stating that my bitcoin withdrawal has been declined and with chatting with the chat adviser, he told me the account is restricted.

Has anyone been there before ?

Would I be scammed as I've good sum of money inside my account plus pending bitcoin withdrawals.

I've personal verified account.

Thank you.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: deadley on June 19, 2015, 12:34:32 PM
I don't think Payza will going to scam or cease fund. Till there is some proof they will have.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: kralle on June 19, 2015, 01:01:05 PM
I don't think Payza will going to scam or cease fund. Till there is some proof they will have.

I got the same situation a while ago i just got 50$ in the account but till today they just tell me "they can not disclose" why my account is limited


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: MarkMJ on June 19, 2015, 05:29:45 PM
Hello

What is the source of your funds?
Mayby the source is from a scammer and if is from scam than the payza is winning
What is the amount we are talking about?


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: Fakhoury on June 19, 2015, 06:00:42 PM
Hello

What is the source of your funds?
Mayby the source is from a scammer and if is from scam than the payza is winning
What is the amount we are talking about?


Hello brother,

The source of funds is from a buyer which I do trust as we have been dealing for a good time now.

We are talking about $500 (not in a one shot, but in terms of $100's and $150's).

This is not the first time for him to send me from his Payza.

I think it's because of high volume transactions.

Although I'm verified and has been put on temp. hold and passed it.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: vr0z on June 19, 2015, 06:08:39 PM
Mayby the source is from a scammer and if is from scam than the payza is winning

So payza is scammer of scammer a.k.a Mother of Scammer. Great! This could be what makes them rich very quickly and no one has the power to sue them.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: MarkMJ on June 19, 2015, 09:10:03 PM
Hello

What is the source of your funds?
Mayby the source is from a scammer and if is from scam than the payza is winning
What is the amount we are talking about?


Hello brother,

The source of funds is from a buyer which I do trust as we have been dealing for a good time now.

We are talking about $500 (not in a one shot, but in terms of $100's and $150's).

This is not the first time for him to send me from his Payza.

I think it's because of high volume transactions.

Although I'm verified and has been put on temp. hold and passed it.

OK,so I don't think you understand
If your partner send you stollen funds than payza have the right to frozen your account
It is about this,transaction is follow and follow until they fund the funds
Mayby your partner/friend got fraudulos funds
I know a lots of things about pp,pz,pm,op and also nt because I sell a lots of accounts
Always check the funds via teamviewer and if you don't like what you see don't buy it.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: Fakhoury on June 19, 2015, 09:33:45 PM
Hello

What is the source of your funds?
Mayby the source is from a scammer and if is from scam than the payza is winning
What is the amount we are talking about?


Hello brother,

The source of funds is from a buyer which I do trust as we have been dealing for a good time now.

We are talking about $500 (not in a one shot, but in terms of $100's and $150's).

This is not the first time for him to send me from his Payza.

I think it's because of high volume transactions.

Although I'm verified and has been put on temp. hold and passed it.

OK,so I don't think you understand
If your partner send you stollen funds than payza have the right to frozen your account
It is about this,transaction is follow and follow until they fund the funds
Mayby your partner/friend got fraudulos funds
I know a lots of things about pp,pz,pm,op and also nt because I sell a lots of accounts
Always check the funds via teamviewer and if you don't like what you see don't buy it.

I do understand brother.

First of all, he was paying me using BTC, then Payza, then I got a temporary hold and it go resolved, then re-used Payza as it was safe.

As far as I know, he use his credit card to fund his Payza as he was buying bitcoins using credit card via cex.io

Why would he scam me then ?

As there is a business between us, and losing me is losing his business, I'm not the only one in the business, but I'm somehow unique for him.

Hello

What is the source of your funds?
Mayby the source is from a scammer and if is from scam than the payza is winning
What is the amount we are talking about?


Hello brother,

The source of funds is from a buyer which I do trust as we have been dealing for a good time now.

We are talking about $500 (not in a one shot, but in terms of $100's and $150's).

This is not the first time for him to send me from his Payza.

I think it's because of high volume transactions.

Although I'm verified and has been put on temp. hold and passed it.
$500 of business isn't enough to trust anyone, especially if they're sending with irreversible methods. Best you learn now than get hit with a $10,000+ scam.

Brother,

We have been dealing a lot, why shall I think that he scammed me ?

I don't give 100% trust, but why would he scam me ?

Plus, we have been dealing with more than $500, the $500 is what is in my Payza and got locked on.

EDIT : I've the chance to know whatever the reason for locking my Payza was fraudulent funds or not, as basically they will talk with me about the reason behind restricting the account.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: Karartma1 on June 19, 2015, 10:16:18 PM
I don't get the relation of Payza and Bitcoin. Payza accounts can also hold Bitcoin now? Since when?


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: Fakhoury on June 19, 2015, 10:20:21 PM
I don't get the relation of Payza and Bitcoin. Payza accounts can also hold Bitcoin now? Since when?

No.

The guy who sent me the funds, was sending me bitcoins as first, then we switched to Payza, then bitcoins, then last thing was Payza.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: MarkMJ on June 20, 2015, 02:49:01 AM
I also got scammed on emf after 3 mounts
The same situation, many deals then run with all my funds
I got scammed 7000 via nt and the scammar cash out my funds from ATM after 5 minutes (nt support saying)
Anyway for more trust you can requirst an teamviewer,check the deposit history
If he refused to do it!than you know the answer
Take care.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: Fakhoury on June 20, 2015, 01:02:51 PM
I will wait till I hear from Payza and will ask them about the fraudulent funds.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: twister on June 20, 2015, 01:50:16 PM
I will wait till I hear from Payza and will ask them about the fraudulent funds.

This is the thing with online payment instruments, they can cease your funds on suspicions of Money Laundering, stolen funds etc. I think I read a thread some time back with similar situation, don't know if it ever got resolved or not. Just keep in touch with them and find out the reason why they froze your account. If you're able to get your funds out, don't use them ever again.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: Fakhoury on June 20, 2015, 07:02:17 PM
I will wait till I hear from Payza and will ask them about the fraudulent funds.

This is the thing with online payment instruments, they can cease your funds on suspicions of Money Laundering, stolen funds etc. I think I read a thread some time back with similar situation, don't know if it ever got resolved or not. Just keep in touch with them and find out the reason why they froze your account. If you're able to get your funds out, don't use them ever again.

Thank you for point the "Money Laundering" point.

It didn't come to my mind tbh.

I want the weekend to pass quickly to hear from them.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: irfan_pak10 on June 20, 2015, 11:46:16 PM
Are you a money exchanger for BTC to other processor if yes, then they have policy that you can not exchange your Payza $ to btc. Second reason may that someone tried to cash back his money that he sent you.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: Fakhoury on June 21, 2015, 12:05:34 AM
Are you a money exchanger for BTC to other processor if yes, then they have policy that you can not exchange your Payza $ to btc. Second reason may that someone tried to cash back his money that he sent you.

No, I'm not.

They accused me of that before, but I deny it as I was on temp. hold.

What you mean by cashing back brother ?

Thank you.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: irfan_pak10 on June 21, 2015, 12:14:07 AM
Are you a money exchanger for BTC to other processor if yes, then they have policy that you can not exchange your Payza $ to btc. Second reason may that someone tried to cash back his money that he sent you.

No, I'm not.

They accused me of that before, but I deny it as I was on temp. hold.

What you mean by cashing back brother ?

Thank you.

Ohh sorry i should have right it so Chargeback. Payza, skrill, PP etc are all could be chargeback. If some body charged back then these processor will lock your account/ or suspend it.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: Fakhoury on June 21, 2015, 07:02:56 PM
Are you a money exchanger for BTC to other processor if yes, then they have policy that you can not exchange your Payza $ to btc. Second reason may that someone tried to cash back his money that he sent you.

No, I'm not.

They accused me of that before, but I deny it as I was on temp. hold.

What you mean by cashing back brother ?

Thank you.

Ohh sorry i should have right it so Chargeback. Payza, skrill, PP etc are all could be chargeback. If some body charged back then these processor will lock your account/ or suspend it.

Tbh, I doubt this, but, it's still a probability.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: MarkMJ on June 22, 2015, 09:50:13 AM
Hello

Tell me do you receive any reply from payza?
Can you add here some pic?
Waiting reply from you about this,only if need help
Also contact again the sender of the funds.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: Fakhoury on June 22, 2015, 12:10:19 PM
Hello

Tell me do you receive any reply from payza?
Can you add here some pic?
Waiting reply from you about this,only if need help
Also contact again the sender of the funds.


Hello bro,

I didn't receive any reply from them yet, I will wait till this week ends.

Here is what I get when I try to login to my account

http://gyazo.com/3b5dcca6ae2cd55e3ecbc0b59c5c3158

For sure I will need your help.

I've tested him with some products and I will to see whatever he will pay or not.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: MarkMJ on June 22, 2015, 01:14:14 PM
I don't understand why you can't login intro your account
Did you make some insistence call?
Test your "friend" and you will get a lots of ansers
Wait reply
NOTE: if your friend is a scammer you will never get account back, the same with your funds.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: Fakhoury on June 22, 2015, 04:57:31 PM
I don't understand why you can't login intro your account
Did you make some insistence call?
Test your "friend" and you will get a lots of ansers
Wait reply
NOTE: if your friend is a scammer you will never get account back, the same with your funds.

I don't know either.

Guess what, I've been paid by him for $125 by BTC.

Plus another surprise, I've one of my bitcoin withdrawals went through and I've got my BTC.

I guess there is two more pending withdrawals and declined one.

And still, I can't login to my account :S


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: MarkMJ on June 23, 2015, 05:32:09 AM
LOL
Still no reply from payza?


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: Fakhoury on June 23, 2015, 04:52:58 PM
And, here is the reply

Hello xxx,
 
 Thank you for contacting Payza.
 
 It has come to our attention that you have violated one or more of our policies outlined in Section 7.0 of our User Agreement: https://www.payza.com/legal
 
 We have therefore made the decision to discontinue our business relationship with you. Please note that you will no longer be able to access your account.
 
 Due to potential reversals, chargeback’s, disputes and fines, your funds will be placed on hold for 180 days. After this period of time has elapsed, please contact us for a reassessment of available funds. 
 
 Thank you for your understanding.
 
 Fraud Prevention
 www.payza.com


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: xetsr on June 23, 2015, 04:59:07 PM
So, are you surprised?

Were you not selling keys and other things that are against their TOS?


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: kralle on June 23, 2015, 05:00:19 PM
And, here is the reply

Hello xxx,
 
 Thank you for contacting Payza.
 
 It has come to our attention that you have violated one or more of our policies outlined in Section 7.0 of our User Agreement: https://www.payza.com/legal
 
 We have therefore made the decision to discontinue our business relationship with you. Please note that you will no longer be able to access your account.
 
 Due to potential reversals, chargeback’s, disputes and fines, your funds will be placed on hold for 180 days. After this period of time has elapsed, please contact us for a reassessment of available funds. 
 
 Thank you for your understanding.
 
 Fraud Prevention
 www.payza.com

And after 180 days they will have a different reason WHY not to give you the funds ..... i got the same before


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: techgeek on June 24, 2015, 12:31:31 AM
what I dont get is didnt payze allowed to have bitcoin transactions.

payza is a retarded service in general though, cause I been seeing similar complaints with bs holdings of funds.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: MarkMJ on June 24, 2015, 10:59:51 AM
Payza was a good online payment processor some years ago,
Now you get only this message when your account is frozen "violated one or more"
I use payza only to pay for HMA.
Sorry for this and thank you for making this public.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: vr0z on June 26, 2015, 11:45:23 AM
what I dont get is didnt payze allowed to have bitcoin transactions.

payza is a retarded service in general though, cause I been seeing similar complaints with bs holdings of funds.

They're not retarded. As I said earlier, they are mother of scammer  8)


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: twister on June 26, 2015, 12:46:10 PM
This is why you should not trust any online payment processor and use ONLY Bitcoins for any sort of online business because no one can seize your funds as only you control it. This is absurd, I don't know how much money you have there but I don't think you'll ever see it.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: erikalui on June 26, 2015, 03:47:40 PM
That means Payza has got to know that you are exchanging bitcoins and hence they closed your account as it's against their TOS. You can only use their trusted exchangers and the charge is 2% for exchanging bitcoins via Payza. All payment processors are following the same policy as money exchange is prohibited as per the terms.

This is why you should not trust any online payment processor and use ONLY Bitcoins for any sort of online business because no one can seize your funds as only you control it. This is absurd, I don't know how much money you have there but I don't think you'll ever see it.

But how can you withdraw those bitcoins? You need to use an exchange website if you want to withdraw the bitcoins to your bank while Payza sends the cash via bank transfer after charging a fee. That's the reason many use Payza.


Title: Re: My account on Payza got restricted, could I be scammed ? Need your help please.
Post by: MarkMJ on June 26, 2015, 04:30:06 PM
I don't understand why payza and others add bitcoin intro there system
Also perfectmoney add btc but I never used and I will never use
Is a simple way for them to make some free bitcoin
BIG FREE bitcoin