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Title: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 12:36:02 PM
anybody heard of this? I saw it listed on the  blockchain.info site

http://btc-multiplier.fr

and

http://btc-multiplier.de

I cant find any talk about this site and they have been running since march this year.


any info would be great thanks!


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 12:36:48 PM
It's Scam


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 12:44:42 PM
It's Scam


uhm and your referral links in your signature line arent scams? lool

ironic.... :D


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 12:47:40 PM
It's Scam


uhm and your referral links in your signature line arent scams? lool

ironic.... :D

They are paying


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 12:48:17 PM
It's Scam


uhm and your referral links in your signature line arent scams? lool

ironic.... :D

They are paying

so is the site I mentioned, so ...?


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 12:50:15 PM
It's Scam


uhm and your referral links in your signature line arent scams? lool

ironic.... :D

They are paying

so is the site I mentioned, so ...?

Yes the sites are Scammer sites.... on my first time on the bitcoin world i have invested in a same site with the same template ... and they don't send me my coins


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 12:53:47 PM
yeah indeed, at least the site on my signature, has been running for three years now. its probably the longest one around now.

and they aren't claiming huge returns like the others that always scam.


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 12:58:55 PM
its probably the longest one around now.
Nope  Atrex is only 199 days online
ForexShare.biz is 838 days online

But i don't recommend to join old programs no one knows when the admin  will close it.


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 01:04:19 PM
weird, atrex's trading reports page lists trading records dating back to january 2012

where are you seeing they only have been online 199 days?


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 01:05:50 PM
weird, atrex's trading reports page lists trading records dating back to january 2012

where are you seeing hey only have been online 199 days?
its easy to fake it ....
here http://allmonitors.net/hyip/atrextrade.com/
And if you check the domain you will see the same https://whois.domaintools.com/198.50.200.24
And on allmonitors you can also see on domain info when the site was created


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 01:14:49 PM
weird, atrex's trading reports page lists trading records dating back to january 2012

where are you seeing hey only have been online 199 days?
its easy to fake it ....
here http://allmonitors.net/hyip/atrextrade.com/
And if you check the domain you will see the same https://whois.domaintools.com/198.50.200.24
And on allmonitors you can also see on domain info when the site was created

the IP address associated to atrex on those sites are different...

on allmonitor they say its ...

Registrar   ENOM, INC.
Created   2014-06-11
Expire   2024-06-11
NS   LOLA.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM TIM.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM LOLA.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM TIM.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
IP   us 69.4.233.194

and if you click on the heading "199" days, its their referral link to the site lol


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 01:15:53 PM
its possible a site could've also changed their IP/server too over the course of operation


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 01:22:08 PM
anyway the who is lookup is useless, because the actual persons running the site aren't the registered users of the domain, its only the whois and cloudflare companies listed on the doman

you would actually need to get whois or cloudflare to release the name of the owner of site using their hosting services.


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 01:26:25 PM
If you trust the admin is your thing.
The admin can write on his site what he want.


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 01:27:59 PM
If you trust the admin is your thing.
The admin can write on his site what he want.

ya that's how it is in a nutshell anyway. risk what you can afford to lose ;)


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 01:30:46 PM
If you trust the admin is your thing.
The admin can write on his site what he want.

ya that's how it is in a nutshell anyway. risk what you can afford to lose ;)
Yup invest what you can afford to lose thats a rule on the hyip industry.


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: alxalex on June 20, 2015, 02:42:33 PM
are u sure forexbiz is almost 3 years old???


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 02:52:20 PM
are u sure forexbiz is almost 3 years old???

Of course http://allmonitors.net/hyip/forexshare.biz/
But i don't recommend to join old programs no one knows when the admin close the site.


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 03:11:46 PM
its quite amazing ...going back to what this thread was originally about...

but btc-multiplier.fr is really paying out up to 50x the btc you deposit to them.

how they are doing this however I have no clue. because looking at the block chain of their deposit address there is no where near enough btc being deposited to cover paying out the deposits previously being made.

curious...


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 03:13:13 PM
are u sure forexbiz is almost 3 years old???

Of course http://allmonitors.net/hyip/forexshare.biz/
But i don't recommend to join old programs no one knows when the admin close the site.

I think hyips pay the monitors to get listed so I wouldn't rely on them


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 03:21:49 PM
are u sure forexbiz is almost 3 years old???

Of course http://allmonitors.net/hyip/forexshare.biz/
But i don't recommend to join old programs no one knows when the admin close the site.

I think hyips pay the monitors to get listed so I wouldn't rely on them
LoL if you don't trust the monitors then check the domain and you will see.


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 03:22:22 PM
its quite amazing ...going back to what this thread was originally about...

but btc-multiplier.fr is really paying out up to 50x the btc you deposit to them.

how they are doing this however I have no clue. because looking at the block chain of their deposit address there is no where near enough btc being deposited to cover paying out the deposits previously being made.

curious...
Date                                Amt Deposit            Multiplier                Payout
2015-06-19 09:35:35    0.000403877 BTC    x50                               0.02019385 BTC   

Transaction#
ef7f6ea5de6c0daf1dd7103ea066c3f8743e9be3...

Explorer
https://blockchain.info/en/tx/ef7f6ea5de6c0daf1dd7103ea066c3f8743e9be3ab8f73f8cfce8edd0f2e4d8d


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 03:24:02 PM
are u sure forexbiz is almost 3 years old???

Of course http://allmonitors.net/hyip/forexshare.biz/
But i don't recommend to join old programs no one knows when the admin close the site.

I think hyips pay the monitors to get listed so I wouldn't rely on them
LoL if you don't trust the monitors then check the domain and you will see.

like I said before, that's not accurate cause they could've changed servers / IP / domain since the conception of the site.


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 03:26:29 PM
are u sure forexbiz is almost 3 years old???

Of course http://allmonitors.net/hyip/forexshare.biz/
But i don't recommend to join old programs no one knows when the admin close the site.

I think hyips pay the monitors to get listed so I wouldn't rely on them
LoL if you don't trust the monitors then check the domain and you will see.

like I said before, that's not accurate cause they could've changed servers / IP / domain since the conception of the site.
https://whois.domaintools.com/104.148.77.198
RegDate:        2013-04-19
Updated:        2013-06-03
Will you say that Forexshare is older than 3 years :D


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 03:29:30 PM
its quite amazing ...going back to what this thread was originally about...

but btc-multiplier.fr is really paying out up to 50x the btc you deposit to them.

how they are doing this however I have no clue. because looking at the block chain of their deposit address there is no where near enough btc being deposited to cover paying out the deposits previously being made.

curious...
Date                                Amt Deposit            Multiplier                Payout
2015-06-19 09:35:35    0.000403877 BTC    x50                               0.02019385 BTC   

Transaction#
ef7f6ea5de6c0daf1dd7103ea066c3f8743e9be3...

Explorer
https://blockchain.info/en/tx/ef7f6ea5de6c0daf1dd7103ea066c3f8743e9be3ab8f73f8cfce8edd0f2e4d8d
Oh man they are fake Transaction Ids
Like in this sites:
http://time2btc.com/invest-now.html
http://antro10.jimdo.com/
http://www.btcadder.com/
http://www.100timesbitcoins.com/

Etc....


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 03:39:05 PM
its quite amazing ...going back to what this thread was originally about...

but btc-multiplier.fr is really paying out up to 50x the btc you deposit to them.

how they are doing this however I have no clue. because looking at the block chain of their deposit address there is no where near enough btc being deposited to cover paying out the deposits previously being made.

curious...
Date                                Amt Deposit            Multiplier                Payout
2015-06-19 09:35:35    0.000403877 BTC    x50                               0.02019385 BTC   

Transaction#
ef7f6ea5de6c0daf1dd7103ea066c3f8743e9be3...

Explorer
https://blockchain.info/en/tx/ef7f6ea5de6c0daf1dd7103ea066c3f8743e9be3ab8f73f8cfce8edd0f2e4d8d
Oh man they are fake Transaction Ids
Like in this sites:
http://time2btc.com/invest-now.html
http://antro10.jimdo.com/
http://www.btcadder.com/
http://www.100timesbitcoins.com/

Etc....

really? so how does it appear on the block chain explorer?


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Vasilich on June 20, 2015, 03:41:00 PM
http://dealer-communications.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/scam2.jpg


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 03:48:43 PM
its quite amazing ...going back to what this thread was originally about...

but btc-multiplier.fr is really paying out up to 50x the btc you deposit to them.

how they are doing this however I have no clue. because looking at the block chain of their deposit address there is no where near enough btc being deposited to cover paying out the deposits previously being made.

curious...
Date                                Amt Deposit            Multiplier                Payout
2015-06-19 09:35:35    0.000403877 BTC    x50                               0.02019385 BTC   

Transaction#
ef7f6ea5de6c0daf1dd7103ea066c3f8743e9be3...

Explorer
https://blockchain.info/en/tx/ef7f6ea5de6c0daf1dd7103ea066c3f8743e9be3ab8f73f8cfce8edd0f2e4d8d
Oh man they are fake Transaction Ids
Like in this sites:
http://time2btc.com/invest-now.html
http://antro10.jimdo.com/
http://www.btcadder.com/
http://www.100timesbitcoins.com/

Etc....

really? so how does it appear on the block chain explorer?
LoL are you a newbie???
Take any blockchain id from the other scam sites that i post above and you will see the same.
Its easy i can open a site and say i will give you your BTCs 50X  back and post any BlockChain id from https://blockchain.info/ and write : Payment Proofs:
...


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 04:00:57 PM
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its quite amazing ...going back to what this thread was originally about...

but btc-multiplier.fr is really paying out up to 50x the btc you deposit to them.

how they are doing this however I have no clue. because looking at the block chain of their deposit address there is no where near enough btc being deposited to cover paying out the deposits previously being made.

curious...
Date                                Amt Deposit            Multiplier                Payout
2015-06-19 09:35:35    0.000403877 BTC    x50                               0.02019385 BTC   

Transaction#
ef7f6ea5de6c0daf1dd7103ea066c3f8743e9be3...

Explorer
https://blockchain.info/en/tx/ef7f6ea5de6c0daf1dd7103ea066c3f8743e9be3ab8f73f8cfce8edd0f2e4d8d
Oh man they are fake Transaction Ids
Like in this sites:
http://time2btc.com/invest-now.html
http://antro10.jimdo.com/
http://www.btcadder.com/
http://www.100timesbitcoins.com/

Etc....

really? so how does it appear on the block chain explorer?
LoL are you a newbie???
Take any blockchain id from the other scam site that i post above and you will see the same.
Its easy i can open a site and say i will give you your BTCs 50X  back and post any BlockChain id from https://blockchain.info/ and write : Payment Proofs:
...
http://i59.tinypic.com/os510m.jpg
http://i58.tinypic.com/2l8k60.png

so this is fake?


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 04:08:27 PM
You sent them coins.
If you lose your money don't blame me i said it's Scam.


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 04:21:11 PM
You sent them coins.
If you lose your money don't blame me i said it's Scam.

that's the risk I take for the big potential return.

and btw no one knows something is a scam or not until it actually scams you.

and by scamming I mean offering something they don't actually give.

plus the wiki page of that site  doesn't say they promise anything. only what could be, so no scam, only risk.


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 04:24:11 PM
You sent them coins.
If you lose your money don't blame me i said it's Scam.

that's the risk I take for the big potential return.

and btw no one knows something is a scam or not until it actually scams you.


They have a Copy from a template that you can buy for less than 1$ no https etc...... and they are not the Santa Claus to give you 50X.


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Vasilich on June 20, 2015, 05:27:10 PM
They have a Copy from a template that you can buy for less than 1$ no https etc...... and they are not the Santa Claus to give you 50X.

absolute true


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: oni.saori on June 20, 2015, 05:40:03 PM
anybody heard of this? I saw it listed on the  blockchain.info site

http://btc-multiplier.fr

and

http://btc-multiplier.de

I cant find any talk about this site and they have been running since march this year.


any info would be great thanks!

are you sure they are listed on blockchain ... because usually they dont list ponzi, etc ...


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 05:46:18 PM
anybody heard of this? I saw it listed on the  blockchain.info site

http://btc-multiplier.fr

and

http://btc-multiplier.de

I cant find any talk about this site and they have been running since march this year.


any info would be great thanks!

are you sure they are listed on blockchain ... because usually they dont list ponzi, etc ...

this is where I saw it...
http://i60.tinypic.com/w71zqp.png


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: josephno1 on June 20, 2015, 06:02:52 PM
I would never trust a HYIP that has to pay for whois protect or uses a free domain


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: anderson00673 on June 20, 2015, 06:04:44 PM
Guys this is obviously a scam.  Monitors are usually paid off and I don't think any of them are trustworthy.  I am not saying don't play, but just treat it like gambling and assume that you will lose, so that way if you win it will be a nice and exciting surprise.


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 06:05:21 PM
I would never trust a HYIP that has to pay for whois protect or uses a free domain

It's not a hyip its a scam.


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 06:05:46 PM
Guys this is obviously a scam.  Monitors are usually paid off and I don't think any of them are trustworthy.  I am not saying don't play, but just treat it like gambling and assume that you will lose, so that way if you win it will be a nice and exciting surprise.

my point exactly  :)


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: ShetKid on June 20, 2015, 06:11:32 PM
I would never trust a HYIP that has to pay for whois protect or uses a free domain

It's not a hyip its a scam.

Most of the ponzis and hyips already hide that info, its hard to comment only on that as people hide their identities if they can.


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: Digicoinz on June 20, 2015, 06:27:01 PM
here's something that is legit


                 www.bitcoincd.us



Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: supermoney on June 20, 2015, 06:48:47 PM
What the heck are you guys saying?
These shit sites are pure scam and the OP is the owner, but please OP don't fuck with me now thanks  :D

Monitors useless? Untrustworthy? Seriously... If you tell so then you probably don't even know how HYIP industry works  ;)

Good luck fellas!


Title: Re: new scam?
Post by: mib on June 20, 2015, 06:52:02 PM
What the heck are you guys saying?
These shit sites are pure scam and the OP is the owner, but please OP don't fuck with me now thanks  :D

Monitors useless? Untrustworthy? Seriously... If you tell so then you probably don't even know how HYIP industry works  ;)

Good luck fellas!
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