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Many people say that the prison system in the United States is discriminatory. They say that, because the Blacks, who compose 13% of the general population, constitute almost 40% of the prison population. On the other hand, the non-Hispanic whites, who are 60% of the general population, comprise only 39% of the prison population.

http://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/rates.html

But they overlook the fact that Black are several times likely to commit violent crimes, when compared to the Whites.

We talk about changing views about blacks. But if the stats are right then how can one?
I know every person is different, but the fear that is instilled in people 's mind blocks the change of views.

Woman Calls For Race War At Scene Of Charleston Church Shooting

The conversation is a snapshot of race relations in the Obama era, which has seen racial tension reach a boiling point unseen in America for decades.

Breitbart Texas editor Brandon Darby drew a heated reaction by asking, “What do you think the chances are that the guy who did this horrible thing was mentally ill?”
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Sista Solove, offscreen, immediately responds, “Hell, no… Are all crackers mentally ill?”

Darby responds “What are you saying, ‘crackers?'”

As the man with the sign attempts to answer Darby’s question, Sista Solove again jumps in and tells Darby, “Cracka. You’re a cracka. Crackas. We niggas, y’all crackas, it’s what it is.”

The conversation took place five feet from what President Obama called “sacred space” in a speech on Wednedsay.

A few seconds later, after the man with the sign says he did not believe Charleston suspect Dylann Roof was mentally ill, Sista Solove expresses a theory that several African Americans in Charleston told us: that Roof “was sent” by white supremacists to do the shooting and to push black people out of town.

“He (alleged killer Roof) was sent. He was sent. The KKK ain’t nothing but the police with badges now. That’s all they are. They took their hoods off and they’re police. It was an inside job.”

The man with sign agrees, saying, “C’mon, man, he was sane. He knew what he was doing. He tried to free home.”

More...http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/06/19/woman-calls-for-race-war-at-scene-of-church-shooting/ (http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/06/19/woman-calls-for-race-war-at-scene-of-church-shooting/)

Imagine the reaction, if some white individual had called for a race war, during the funeral of some white person who was killed during a black-on-white crime. Regardless of race, lunatics such as this one should be immediately incarcerated. No one should be allowed to take advantage of the shootings and use it for their own selfish needs.

Actually Black folks have a looooooong way to go to catch up with the violence perpetuated by the vastly White US government. How many millions of people has the US killed under the guise of "protecting our country?" Let's be real...we have not had a war that was about protecting our country in ages. Most war is about political interest or stealing natural resources.

So yeah, you can say what you like about Black on White crime, White on Black crime, Black on Black crime or White on White crime, but no crime compares to the crimes committed against other countries by the US. And if we want to get really specific here, the US has been run by White men since it's inception.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/earth-248-armed-conflicts-ww2-us-started-201-81-killing-30-million-far-arrests-now.html

Body count: ~30 million.

Now tell me who is more violent.

I lived a short time in America and saw things that are unthinkable in Europe.
Whites lives mainly in the rich suburbs of cities, black people in poor houses or buildings in the center, white people generally drive in the cars, black people in public transport etc.
The difference in living standards between blacks and whites is huge and it just creates resentment and anger among blacks.
Related to that, white people get better paid jobs, they go to better schools etc.
These are great and the structural problems of American society that can not be easily or quickly resolved.
The recent massacres are unfortunately only one of the consequences of these accumulated tensions in American society.
I'm not optimistic that this problem, which has not been solved in the past 200 years, would soon be resolved and that blacks and whites will be completely equal in American society.

How can you say that the US government is white, when the president himself is Black? Most of the people in the important governmental positions are Jewish (and therefore not white per se). And less than one-third of the American whites voted for the current American president, whose policies has been regarded as anti-white by some.

Anyone see that video of the friends of the shooter? One of them was black and said he'd never heard him say anything racist before or acted in any way suspect. Thought that was weird.


The crime rates are linked to poverty and there's a larger percentage of African Americans living in poverty so that's why the figures are higher.

Stop treating them like a different kind, that's the first step. The second step must be to realize the solution than the blame. Implement authoritive changes, councelling, helping centers, better education and more aggression to be let out on sports. It all starts at school. Education institutes change people and damn some people really need education so let's try to provide education than statements saying omg what now?

Moldova is one of the poorest countries on earth. The average income of a Moldovan citizen is around one-tenth of that of the American Blacks. Still, the crime rate in Moldova is extremely low, when compared to the American cities such as Detoilet, Chicago and Miami. So poverty alone is not the reason for a surge in crime.

Funny, blacks don't mind attacking each other and white people, but they know better than to go fucking with latinos ;)

As I see black people in the US have the same role as the gypsies here in Europe. In the last 400 years many governments with many ideology tried to do exactly what you said for integrating gypsies. They never ever succeeded. There were many individual gypsies who integrated but en-mass it's just not working.

Like when La Eme issued an edict years back to all Surenos (gangs allied with/under the Mexican Mafia, you'll see a "13" next to their name) to shoot on-sight any blacks in their neighborhoods:



http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/220107mexicangangs.htm

Your statement contains truths but completely disregards history. Important governmental positions you say? Well, Congress is pretty important right? Congress is currently dominantly male, Christian and White...as it has been throughout most of history.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/01/05/the-new-congress-is-80-percent-white-80-percent-male-and-92-percent-christian/

Washington Post is pretty credible, wouldn't you say?

Obama's policies have been regarded as anti-white by some? Like who? I am not saying your statement is false, I just want to know exactly what group of people feel this way. I could very well say that MANY of our past presidents had anti-black policies...hell...about a dozen of them were known slave owners! Also, let us always remember that Obama is just as White as he is Black. Too many people (of all races) point out that the president is Black, when he indeed is not. Obama is mixed and actually had much more White influences growing up than Black influences.

I call for a love war!  :D

There is not going to be a race war. Only old people and hillbillies are so deluded to think that. In fact the nation becomes browner each day and in twenty years no one will be black or white anyway. It will be beautiful.

Well, USA is not the only country that has double standarts. The thing is, that establishment understands (racistically?), that people such as this woman are members of Unterklasse, with no real influence of future living mostly on insticts. Establishment doesnt really watch over Unterklasse as it is easily replaceable. It is middle class, that it fears. So white CEO calling for race war - that would make headlines.

It is politically correct? Not in the least. It is logical? You can bet, it is.

I am not sure what drugs do you take, but Id love prescription. Those must be strong as hell.

The 80% figure includes Jews (5-10%) as well as other oriental people such as Arabs and Turks who are not whites. This figure was more than 95% a few decades ago, and now it has fallen below 70%. Within another decade or two, the majority of the Congress members will be non-white.


Obama doesn't considers himself to be a white. He considers himself 100% black.

Yes, that will be beautiful indeed. No racial identity, no cultural roots, no nationality, no loyalty to wider groups. The ideal consumer and workforce who's doing what told to do by the latest and most fashionable opinion makers.

"Yeah, it's got electrolytes."

1. "Below 70%" would still be the majority, right?

2. I don't care what Obama declares himself. Ever heard of Rachel Dolezal? So yes, despite what Barack Obama considers himself, he is indeed just as White as he is Black.

It's called love. And It's the bomb! I'm high on it most of the time and because it's legal the cops wont hassle you. Best of all it's free! You can score some by giving love. My parents turned me on to it as a kid and now I'm hopelessly addicted.
I know a lot of people these days do hate instead. But hate comes with so many health problems and turns you into tiny, feeble, paranoid complainer. Someone constantly in search of a scapegoat to blame their failings on. Not a drug I would do. I wake up early and happy and sleep with a smile on my face.
 :)

Have you decided to impersonate BADecker because he hasn't graced this thread with his presence yet? You even ended the post with a smiley! All that's missing is a some christian fundamentalism or a diatribe against the courts because "something something common law" and you'd have me convinced!

lol, I think we are coming from different places. I'm an atheist. But I am cool with most people and that includes religious people.  If you want to be part of the world and spread peace then I don't care how you got here, I'll stand with you. Just as I stand with the families of the victims in Charleston. They are my brothers now and I will do more to end raceism in my community.
Sorry Dylann (Ruf?, roof?), your actions are inspiring people to show their best side and support each other. I think taking the confed flag from all government flags, license plates, etc. is a start.  Something that, in fact, you started Dylann!

There is terrific irony in his actions of hatred inspiring people to come together. All this focus on the confederate flag though, it almost seems to me to be scapegoating and definitely knee-jerk. I do wonder if all the focus on the flag is robbing us of an opportunity to deal more directly with the problems.

Yeah' I think your right. It is just a symbol and does not directly address the problem. But at least is a disincentive for those who think this kind of killing furthers their cause. Plus it's a little weird that the flag of revolt against the United  States appears on state flags and licenses plates. I have heard the arguments about Southern pride and history, but I'm sure the neo-Nazies would say the same thing about the swastika.

I think there's a great danger in defining what symbols mean to other groups of people. I'm not from the south, I can't understand the history and heritage of their symbol. As an outsider, any attempt to 'understand' the symbol is going to be superficial unless I am able to immerse myself in that culture. Having the inability to do that, I'm not going to be so bold as to say that my opinion of what that symbol is supersedes everyone else's. That stance is ridiculous, yet that's very much what is happening. Symbolism is fungible, and allowing a symbol to be defined statically as only one thing doesn't seem like a reasonable position to take.

Two ways to illustrate this:

1) The treatment of the Confederate Flag and the American Flag. The Confederate Flag means slavery, it's a terrible symbol. However, the American Flag - which also oversaw slavery, oppression of different groups of individuals by the government at different periods of time (Native Americans, African-Americans, Japanese-Americans during WWII, gays, mentally handicapped, etc.) - is a  proud symbol of patriotism.

2) John Calhoun's statue is being vandalized as a racist slave owner. Yet many of the reasons he is being vilified now he shares in common with our "greatest" patriotic heros: Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Madison, Monroe all owned slaves and allowed and supported the oppression of an entire race. The difference is perception, not necessarily reality.

Perhaps these stark differences in perception are because the North won the war and gets to be deemed morally right, therefore their symbols are "good" while the losers of the war and their symbols are "bad." Seems to be the only logical explanation to me, because objectively looking at the reasons we deem those symbols to be bad, I'd have to also conclude that our patriotic symbols are bad for the same reason.

That is a well reasoned argument that makes a lot of sense.

WTF are you doing at these forums? lol.  :D

You see... history is always written by the winner of the war. We rarely get the perspective from the losing side. Take the Kosovo war or the Bosnian war for example. The Serbs are demonized by the Western media, for their alleged atrocities against Albanians and Muslims respectively. But has anyone thought about how Serbs became a minority in Kosovo, or how many Serbs were killed during the Bosnian war? Everyone might have heard about the Srebrenica "massacre", but has anyone heard about the Maline massacre?