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Title: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US! Is Bitcoin next?
Post by: Gleb Gamow on June 26, 2015, 06:03:17 PM
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&biw=1242&bih=577&tbm=shop&q=Confederate+Flag&oq=Confederate+Flag&gs_l=serp.12..0l10.40296.44374.0.46398.4.4.0.0.0.0.95.325.4.4.0.crnk_zc%2Cezcr%3D1...0...1.1.64.serp..1.3.245.XWBYOCojP28

http://s10.postimg.org/bxvo1ix2h/iok.jpg

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&biw=1242&bih=577&tbm=shop&q=Rebel+Flag&oq=Rebel+Flag&gs_l=serp.12..0l10.3929.5384.0.9186.2.2.0.0.0.0.88.166.2.2.0.crnk_zc%2Cezcr%3D1...0...1.1.64.serp..1.1.77.dJsbTt4gup4

http://s7.postimg.org/sbak5xw4r/sxc.jpg

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&biw=1242&bih=577&tbm=shop&q=Nazi+Flag&oq=Nazi+Flag&gs_l=serp.3..0l2.92970.95709.0.96025.15.11.0.0.0.5.188.1117.6j5.11.0.crnk_zc%2Cezcr%3D1...0...1.1.64.serp..12.3.412.OivfQSJ-aow

http://s13.postimg.org/uptxm7b2v/jnm.jpg

http://www.alterinfo.net/photo/art/default/4642132-6947846.jpg?v=1345896595

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting

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On August 5, 2012, 40-year-old Wade Michael Page fatally shot six people and wounded four others at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Page committed suicide by shooting himself in the head after he was shot in the stomach by a responding police officer.

Page was an American white supremacist and United States Army veteran from Cudahy, Wisconsin. Apart from the shooter, all of the dead were members of the Sikh faith. The incident drew responses from President Barack Obama and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Dignitaries attended candlelight vigils in countries such as the U.S., Canada, and India. The First Lady Michelle Obama visited the temple on August 23, 2012.


Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US!
Post by: Alley on June 26, 2015, 06:04:15 PM
This isn't bitcoin related.


Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on June 26, 2015, 06:07:32 PM
This isn't bitcoin related.

http://bravetheworld.com/tag/bitcoin-free-speech/

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The block chain is structured data, a way of organizing information…Restricting or manipulating this flow of information is censorship and an attack on speech. Bitcoin is an extension of the blockchain, bitcoin is information, bitcoin is speech. And speech is an inalienable right.  

Bitcoin as Free Speech (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141127142558-141610565-bitcoin-as-free-speech)

Bitcoin Revolution: How Cryptocurrency Helps Free Speech (http://www.learnliberty.org/videos/bitcoin-revolution-how-cryptocurrency-is-free-speech/)

Student Aims to Boost Free Speech with Bitcoin Messaging App (https://robertmcgrath.wordpress.com/tag/student-aims-to-boost-free-speech-with-bitcoin-messaging-app/)

Bitcoin Revolution: How Cryptocurrency Helps Free Speech | Learn Liberty (http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/2014/09/bitcoin-revolution-how-cryptocurrency-helps-free-speech-learn-liberty-2661614.html)

EFF: Bitcoin Is Free Speech (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=831575.0)

Crypto-Keys are Free Speech (https://letstalkbitcoin.com/crypto-keys-are-free-speech/)

Why Bitcoin Crypto Keys Are Free Speech and How to Crowd Out Market Volatility (http://www.hulu.com/watch/494382)

We Need Freedom of Speech in our Financial Commerce (https://bitcoinmagazine.com/5027/freedom-of-speech-in-financial-commerce/)

‘Bitcoin threatens economic monopoly, bolsters free speech’ (http://rt.com/op-edge/bitcoin-market-speech-taaki-450/)

How Bitcoin Helps Free Speech | Learn Liberty (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erO5UR1zxRo)

Is Bitcoin Free Speech? (http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/02/bitcoin_as_free_speech_regulating_cryptocurrency_has_ramifications_for_democracy.html)

Bitcoin is crucial for the future of free speech, say experts (http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-is-crucial-for-the-future-of-free-speech-say-experts/)

Student Aims to Boost Free Speech with Bitcoin Messaging App (http://www.coindesk.com/students-aims-boost-free-speech-bitcoin-messaging-app/)

Bitcoin: Is it an Economic Equalizer or a Tool for Conflict and Crime? (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-behzad-mohit/bitcoin-is-it-an-economic_b_6617994.html)

My bad! Trash the thread and move on. Clearly, I mistaken Bitcoin being quasi-synonymous with free speech.


Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US!
Post by: Alley on June 26, 2015, 06:25:03 PM
In a free market can't amazon sell whatever they want?


Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on June 26, 2015, 06:29:02 PM
In a free market can't amazon sell whatever they want?

In the former free market you are 100% correct. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to hunt down my Bob Dylan LP.


Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US!
Post by: RaginglikeaBoss on June 26, 2015, 06:32:17 PM
So I heard that business is the same thing as federal government..

Oh, no wait.. I just farted again.  Time to put my tin-foil hat on so they know.


Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US!
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on June 26, 2015, 06:35:30 PM
wrong section. crazy user. close.


Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on June 26, 2015, 06:49:25 PM
wrong section. crazy user. close.

You win! Bitcoin is NOT free speech! Says guy not here as long as crazy guy.


Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US!
Post by: nutildah on June 26, 2015, 07:03:34 PM
wrong section. crazy user. close.

You win! Bitcoin is NOT free speech! Says guy not here as long as crazy guy.

Bitcoin has more to do with free speech than the Confederate flag.

But you're right, in that it should be your right to be a douchebag if you damn well want to. As far as I know it still is.

You can still wear swastika insignias, goose-step around and do the "Heil Hitler" -- isn't that good enough for you?



Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US! Is Bitcoin next?
Post by: Gleb Gamow on June 26, 2015, 07:10:01 PM
http://99bitcoins.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/The-Walmart-Premier-Bitcoin-Cake-mod.jpg

<I still have the Walmart receipt for the cake above.>

Up to last week, one could purchase a Confederate Flag cake from Walmart directly off the shelf. Today, one can't order such to be made to order, but Nazi Flag cakes from Walmart are available from all its stores across the US.

How long will it be before one's not able to purchase a Bitcoin-themed cake?

Even though I may or may not give a rats ass about the freedom aspect of Bitcoin, others do, and proudly display said freedom via purchased emblems just like those who cling to their Confederate or Nazi flags, the former no longer available for purchase here in the US and myriad places abroad as of this week in history, 2015.


Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US! Is Bitcoin next?
Post by: nutildah on June 26, 2015, 07:14:20 PM

How long will it be before one's not able to purchase a Bitcoin-themed cake?


Even though the vast majority of bitcoin users and developers are (the children of) wealthy white people, there's nothing in bitcoin's core tenets that promotes the white race over other races. I think that's where you're confusing your readers. So to answer your question, never.


Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US! Is Bitcoin next?
Post by: Gleb Gamow on June 26, 2015, 07:16:00 PM

How long will it be before one's not able to purchase a Bitcoin-themed cake?


Even though the vast majority of bitcoin users and developers are (the children of) wealthy white people, there's nothing in bitcoin's core tenets that promotes the white race over other races. I think that's where you're confusing your readers. So to answer your question, never.

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/general-lee-1.jpg

One can no longer buy or sell the above on eBay any longer.


Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US! Is Bitcoin next?
Post by: cooldgamer on June 26, 2015, 07:19:19 PM
Any store can sell the confederate flag if they want to, just not on eBay.  While I don't exactly agree with the new policy, they are a private business and have the right to do whatever they want.  Vote with your dollar and buy somewhere else.


Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US! Is Bitcoin next?
Post by: Gleb Gamow on June 26, 2015, 07:39:00 PM
<source redacted to make you hunt its source and think about the below quote>

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“I thought, a flag is different than any other form of art. It’s not a painting, it’s not just cloth, it is not just a logo—it functions in so many different ways. I thought that we needed that kind of symbol, that we needed as a people something that everyone instantly understands…that influence really came to me when I decided that we should have a flag, that a flag fit us as a symbol, that we are a people, a tribe if you will.”


Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US! Is Bitcoin next?
Post by: miki77miki on June 27, 2015, 12:56:15 AM
It's a flag, a fucking flag. How much damage can selling a flag do? Especially when ISIS flags and nazi flags are allowed.


Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US! Is Bitcoin next?
Post by: Gleb Gamow on June 27, 2015, 05:55:27 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/woman-removes-confederate-flag-front-sc-statehouse-32071701

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"We removed the flag today because we can't wait any longer. We can't continue like this another day," it said. "It's time for a new chapter where we are sincere about dismantling white supremacy and building toward true racial justice and equality."

For a gal who can't wait any longer, I bet she's yet to petition eBay, et al., to remove Nazi flags from its listings.

Nut breaks law to remove flag = nuts who embrace the emblem for racial means.

Just found this which took place prior to the shooting: http://www.clickorlando.com/news/confederate-flag-burning-ceremonies-to-be-held-on-memorial-day/33150514

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WINTER PARK, Fla. -

On Memorial Day, the Greenwood Urban Wetlands, along with a number of other locations in the region, will be the site of a ceremony to burn the Confederate flag.

Julian Chambliss, the chair of the Department of History and coordinator of the Africa & African-American Studies program at Rollins College, will coordinate the ceremony.  He said he plans to put a flag in a box, burn it and then scatter the ashes into a pond in the wetlands area.

"That part of our history needs to be buried," said Chambliss, who was born in Jacksonville but moved to the Orlando area about a decade ago.

He said he sees the flag as a symbol to a part of history that needs to be let go.

As expected, not everyone agrees with that sentiment.

John Adams, with the Sons of Confederate Veterans, has nine relatives that fought for the Confederacy in the Civil War. Adams said he doesn't mind the exercise in free speech but does take exception to the timing of the event.

"Memorial Day?" Adams said as he raised his eyebrows. "That's a day for the soldiers. Respect that day and let our boys who gave their lives rest in peace."

The flag burning will be held at the Greenwood Urban Wetlands at 1 p.m. Monday.

Check back for more on this story.


Title: Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US! Is Bitcoin next?
Post by: photon_coin on June 29, 2015, 03:51:18 AM
personally i don't care what flag you wave , the politicians who want to sell America out with the tpp don't either,

Alexander Hamilton once said. let them march in the streets as much as they like as long as they pay their taxes.....


this story is a cover, to cover the real news,  while I am not racist,
and I don't honestly understand anyone who dislikes another human being just because of the color of their skin, their nationality, spirituality or any other thing I realize there are many people who just have not yet evolved far enough along to realize that as long as we the people are fighting each other about things like this, the multi national corporations who control politicians like puppets are dividing up the fucking planet,


I was amazed to see earlier this week that wikileaks published a draft of a treaty that involved the Saudi cables to mine the moon and other bodies in space !!

Think about that for a second.

These guys (people) plan way ahead what they are going to do.

They are busy dividing up the moon !!

The actual treaty or document I read uses the phrase 'international regime' often,  wtf is that ??

I hope I never live to find out.