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Looking for 1.5 BTC, can pay a premium of +15%. Please PM or reply if interested. Urgent.

Alright man, I tried helping you, but you just insist on bringing the bullshit.

I don't understand. I have no prior communication with you.

Hello, you have to go first if you want to do business.

I don't mind going first/using Escrow.

as in your status, you should go first directly with a trusted member, regardless of escrow goind first with a reputated member might bring you what you want and delete your - reputation if you are not a scammer.

Why am I automatically accused of scamming if I haven't dealt before? I've been on various forums exchanging large sums of BTC before, and many times used an Escrow. Bringing it up is a sign of scamming here?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=524862 i told what i saw :)

No, it's because of this, and the neg trust he left you:



I highly doubt you had no communication with Tomatocage, he is not the type to leave neg trust for no reason, did you PM with him or not?

I never PMd him before, no. I don't know what "bringing the bullshit" entails, but he didn't respond to the PM I sent.

I'm pretty sure you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Conspiracy theory disproved, thank you kindly TC. ;)

I'm pretty sure I don't? Elaborate here.

I told you that if you want to acquire BTC in a p2p transaction, your best option is to stay liquid. Have cash in hand ready to send to the seller in whatever form he/she prefers. Thus far you've chosen to ignore this and offered forms of payment that scammers use. Get it?

can you use escrow ?

Just because scammers use Google Wallet/PayPal/any other reversible currency doesn't mean you should directly accuse me of it. I hate using Moneygram/Western Union and there's still a plenty large market for PayPal in itself. Unfortunately, my PayPal was permanently limited due to receiving too many F&F payments, so now I'm forced to use other processors. As I've stated in a PM to you, this isn't my first rodeo. Dealt $30,000 over the course of two months in 350 transactions on another forum before. Will gladly send you my Excel spreadsheet if you want proof of my numbers.

Unfortunately you have no prior reputation here and the sale of reversible payment methods (eg Google wallet) requires significant reputation. The reason for this is that so many scammers have had these kinds of payments reversed in the past, sometimes long after a deal was (apparently) successful. This has effectively ruined the ability to use these payment methods for pretty much everyone.

Even if you are not a scammer, your potential trading partners are going to think you are.

As stated before, I don't mind using Escrow.

PayPal is just as bad, if not worse. Yet sellers don't seem to mind it as much here yet GW = automatic scammer.

Edit: there was also skepticism with PPMC, which I know for a fact isn't reversible.

People would look at you the same way if you were to use PayPal. PayPal MyCash cards are reversible if you use a stolen credit card to purchase them or if you claim they were somehow stolen (exit.) and they are heavily associated with money laundering.

My advice to you is to withdraw to your bank account and then offer cash for Bitcoin. At the very least you will end up with more Bitcoin for your money.

Another issue is that you are likely going to encounter a lot of people who are either going to waste your time or will try to scam you. As I mentioned previously, most likely no one reputable is going to have any interest in trading with you because they assume there will be some kind of chargeback attempt in the future.

Assuming that you are acting honestly (which at this point is not something I would say - remember that I previously said that people are going to assume you are trying to scam with reversible payment methods), then are more realistic scenario is that you will end up spending a bunch of time getting nothing done with the possibility that you are tricked into sending money first to a scammer.

ok im not interesting without escrow

escrow is a must here