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Title: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on June 30, 2015, 01:58:32 AM
As title says, DomainHunters.org domain name is on auctioin.

Domain is good and in my property for a longer time.
You are bidding for domain name only, not a hosting, scripts and/or database.

With this domain goes its Twitter account too, which is @DomainHunters
It have 2.6k followers.

It is pretty nice indexed by Alexa, Google and Bing too and it have backlinks.
It also have a history, can be seen here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20150501000000*/http://domainhunters.org
As you can see, it is dating from (first time registered) 2002.

Also, you can see some domain stats here:
https://ahrefs.com/site-explorer/overview/subdomains?target=domainhunters.org
(I trust to ahrefs.com)

Domain registrar is Namecheap.
Winner will have to have an account on there so it can be transfered by a single "Domain Push".


Starting bid is 1BTC.
Bin is 2BTC.
Auction end date is July the 10th.


*By bidding you agree to pay first.
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Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 01, 2015, 09:21:13 AM
bump


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 01, 2015, 12:06:58 PM
I forgot maybe the most important thing, so adding it now ... Google Analytics Report:

http://prntscr.com/7ni23l





Since December 2014 to 01 July 2015 (today) = over 530k visitors.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: ThomM on July 01, 2015, 12:25:04 PM
I forgot maybe the most important thing, so adding it now ... Google Analytics Report:

http://prntscr.com/7ni23l





Since December 2014 to 01 July 2015 (today) = over 530k visitors.

Pageviews cannot be equal to unique visitors. And why your site has very high bounce rate?  And how much your income on this site?


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 01, 2015, 12:31:55 PM
Pageviews cannot be equal to unique visitors.
So? They are not equal.


And why your site has very high bounce rate?
It's because I did not added the tracking code to all pages.


And how much your income on this site?

About income I don't want to comment. It is up to you to make it. How good at it you can be it cannot be told, as I know for myself, but that does not means that you can or cannot do the same or better. Income is up to you, it's not something that is done automatic.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: ThomM on July 01, 2015, 12:35:36 PM
Pageviews cannot be equal to unique visitors.
So? They are not equal.


And why your site has very high bounce rate?
It's because I did not added the tracking code to all pages.


And how much your income on this site?

About income I don't want to comment. It is up to you to make it. How good at it you can be it cannot be told, as I know for myself, but that does not means that you can or cannot do the same or better. Income is up to you, it's not something that is done automatic.

You said you have 500k visitors how much is your income from this visitors?


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 01, 2015, 12:39:16 PM
You said you have 500k visitors how much is your income from this visitors?
Yes, as you can see 530k Unique pageviews - meaning 530k visitors - wrong?

And yes, about income I don't want to talk.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: angelakay124 on July 01, 2015, 01:15:07 PM
You said you have 500k visitors how much is your income from this visitors?
Yes, as you can see 530k Unique pageviews - meaning 530k visitors - wrong?

And yes, about income I don't want to talk.

It would be better if you disclose your income to the site, it is one of the important info to know if you are buying a website.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 01, 2015, 01:35:06 PM
It would be better if you disclose your income to the site, it is one of the important info to know if you are buying a website.

Yes, but I am not selling a website, only a domain name.
Meaning: You can make a different type of website, so you can gain or lose visitors.
Also, you don't have to use Google ads as I did - you might want some others, so again - it's not the same.
And the thing is how good you are with SEO, as it is one of the keys to success.
For exaple, I have a few even more popular domain names, old and with very good Page Rank (even it is now canceled by Google) - and they have some visitors, no matter which content a website is, but if I manage good with SEO and ads I can make a profit - but if not, then I will have some minimum just to renew a domain name.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: peligro on July 01, 2015, 07:14:51 PM
If you only sell the domain name why care about visitors and that the site is indexed well? It wouldn't matter to the buyer anymore because the indexed pages would not exist anymore. Visitors will die out fast.

So the only way to keep the traffic a little bit would to try to copy your content. Which is illegal, so you need to create own content, which means google will reindex.

Why don't you simply sell the content and all with it? I don't see the domain having much value without the website.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 01, 2015, 07:29:25 PM
If you only sell the domain name why care about visitors and that the site is indexed well?

Because of domain value?

Why don't you simply sell the content and all with it? I don't see the domain having much value without the website.
You don't see as you don't look.
Try search on any search engine by keywords and you'll see.
And you should know how hard is to make a domain to appear in search page one.
I've done good SEO work for it and thats why it is valuated like this.
About rest I don't care.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 01, 2015, 07:46:53 PM
Cannot edit post above, but here, take a look when you search "Domain Hunters" without quotes:

Code:
https://www.google.com/search?q=domain+hunters
http://www.bing.com/search?q=Domain+Hunters
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Domain+Hunters
https://us.search.yahoo.com/search?p=Domain+Hunters


Other:

Alexa info about it: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/domainhunters.org

Check the Twitter: 2.6k followers

Use some "pro" service to discover how many sites linking in it and how many backlinks it have.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: peligro on July 02, 2015, 09:39:37 AM
If you only sell the domain name why care about visitors and that the site is indexed well?

Because of domain value?

Why don't you simply sell the content and all with it? I don't see the domain having much value without the website.
You don't see as you don't look.
Try search on any search engine by keywords and you'll see.
And you should know how hard is to make a domain to appear in search page one.
I've done good SEO work for it and thats why it is valuated like this.
About rest I don't care.

First you say the domain name is something worth but then you try to back this with seo and backlinks you did. When you really created the website and all then you should know that search engine positions only are worth something as long as the search engine finds the content she indexed. If you take that content away then all your search results will die fast. No more visitors. Some people park such a domain then until it got burned out but as long as you don't try to copy the indexed content you won't get the same visitors constantly.

I'm asking myself if you only don't know this or if there's another reason you argument that way.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 02, 2015, 10:24:43 AM

First you say the domain name is something worth but then you try to back this with seo and backlinks you did. When you really created the website and all then you should know that search engine positions only are worth something as long as the search engine finds the content she indexed. If you take that content away then all your search results will die fast. No more visitors. Some people park such a domain then until it got burned out but as long as you don't try to copy the indexed content you won't get the same visitors constantly.

I'm asking myself if you only don't know this or if there's another reason you argument that way.

Correct. Good SEO can make it. And - for example - if you change it to website that runs like (example) domain search or anything else about domain names, then there is no reason to lose visitors. As it is targeted to be domain related domain name, it can use almost anything related to domain names. And it will not lose visitors that easy if you make it good and continue with SEO, by updating it and promoting. As long as you stay active on it, domain will remain popular and visited. What else?


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: peligro on July 02, 2015, 12:11:32 PM
I wonder why you think so. Search engine visitors only come to your website because you have a specific link with specific content that is ranged high in search engine results. That's why you get the visitors.

If you change the url's or the content then the search engines don't find the old content and you lose the visitors. Of course the new content can rise again but first you will lose everything and it is not much different from starting with a new domain, once the search engines found there is a new website on it.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 02, 2015, 02:44:14 PM
You are trying to prove what?

If you change content, you will need to update your SEO - it's logic.

If you change content to someting that is associated with (in this case) domain names, you'll not lose visitors most probably.
Depends how good website is, you can just gain more visitors.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: peligro on July 03, 2015, 10:53:45 AM
I'm only wondering why you sell the domain by naming the website as selling point. When you break the connection to the old content then search engines will know the website is new and all the seo dies. You only can prevent that when you present the same links and a so similar content that the algo keeps the weighting.

It's up to you how you sell it. I only think it doesn't matter much which website was on there before and how many visitors they had when the website isn't sold with it. Of course, when one really would create a new website with the same niche, and doesn't let the backlinks run into deadends, then some of the seo will make the new website profit from it. Though it would need work.

I wouldn't have said anything when the website would have been sold with it.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 03, 2015, 11:12:32 AM
I'm only wondering why you sell the domain by naming the website as selling point. When you break the connection to the old content then search engines will know the website is new and all the seo dies. You only can prevent that when you present the same links and a so similar content that the algo keeps the weighting.

It's up to you how you sell it. I only think it doesn't matter much which website was on there before and how many visitors they had when the website isn't sold with it. Of course, when one really would create a new website with the same niche, and doesn't let the backlinks run into deadends, then some of the seo will make the new website profit from it. Though it would need work.

I wouldn't have said anything when the website would have been sold with it.

I can sell complete website + domain + paid hosting, but then price would be higher, that's why I did not wanted to sell complete, as people might not wanna pay for complete "pack".
As, to sell website "as is" + paid hosting and domain name I would ask some extra BTC because hosting is paid, work has been done on script to work nice with database conneced with it.

So, yes I can sell it complete if interested in it, just price would be higher.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: master-P on July 03, 2015, 12:19:34 PM
I would be interested in buying the complete site but I have to agree with peligro's statements. It is a bit misleading and counterproductive to only try to sell the domain name without the content when a good portion of the value comes from it's content/SEO. I personally don't think this domain on it's own is worth 0.5 BTC, especially if the content is forced to be ripped away from the site at that price point.

If you come up with a price for the full website, script, domain, etc. let me know. I may be interested.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: master-P on July 03, 2015, 12:20:25 PM
Sorry, not sure why I said 0.5 BTC, I meant to say 1 BTC, whatever the starting bid amount is.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 03, 2015, 12:28:09 PM
Sorry, not sure why I said 0.5 BTC, I meant to say 1 BTC, whatever the starting bid amount is.

Ok, let's start here with 1BTC by master-P.

So, the winner of auction will get:

- domain name
- entire website (script+database+hosting) "as is"
- twitter account


Hosting is paid about 156 days more - will provide complete info (cPanel + FTP info), have unlimited bandwidth + can host 1 more domain by your choice.
I hope I provided all informations about it. If anything missing - let me know.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: master-P on July 03, 2015, 12:34:33 PM
Do I get full rights to the script used on the site?

And also, I'd like to know more about the hosting. Which hosting provider and which plan/packages.

My previous post wasn't a bid but to clarify my typo in my post prior to that one. But I may bid in this auction if you can answer my last two questions above :)

Thanks


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 03, 2015, 12:41:24 PM
Do I get full rights to the script used on the site?

And also, I'd like to know more about the hosting. Which hosting provider and which plan/packages.

My previous post wasn't a bid but to clarify my typo in my post prior to that one. But I may bid in this auction if you can answer my last two questions above :)

Thanks

Sure.

You will get fill rights of script, database and custom work I did = complete owned by whoever win auction.

About hosting:
Hosting is provided by Namecheap.
Plan is "Value Plan".
Server Location: USA Datacenter.
20 GB RAID protected / space
Unlimited bandwidth
Ordered: 6.Dec.2014. = 1 year valid



Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 04, 2015, 09:24:25 AM
Do I get full rights to the script used on the site?

And also, I'd like to know more about the hosting. Which hosting provider and which plan/packages.

My previous post wasn't a bid but to clarify my typo in my post prior to that one. But I may bid in this auction if you can answer my last two questions above :)

Thanks

Just clarify that you did or did not started as 1BTC.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: peligro on July 04, 2015, 04:09:45 PM
Glad you reconsidered your offer. I really do not understand why you wanted to go the content go to waste. Did you want to start with the same script and content on a new domain?


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 04, 2015, 04:33:45 PM
... Did you want to start with the same script and content on a new domain?
Yes, as I have many nice domain names and I wanted to sell this one and to start working on a new one. Simple :)
However I will make the other type of new website with other script so this one will not be used by me anymore after all sold.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: peligro on July 05, 2015, 09:31:47 PM
... Did you want to start with the same script and content on a new domain?
Yes, as I have many nice domain names and I wanted to sell this one and to start working on a new one. Simple :)
However I will make the other type of new website with other script so this one will not be used by me anymore after all sold.

So you did not want to reuse the content and script. In that case i think you simply would have wasted a lot of your work. You could have sold the domain only when no one would have want to buy but normally buyers are more interested in a website that already has some traffic. Which would not be the case when the content would be missing.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: master-P on July 06, 2015, 12:50:50 AM
Do I get full rights to the script used on the site?

And also, I'd like to know more about the hosting. Which hosting provider and which plan/packages.

My previous post wasn't a bid but to clarify my typo in my post prior to that one. But I may bid in this auction if you can answer my last two questions above :)

Thanks

Just clarify that you did or did not started as 1BTC.

Sorry, to clarify, I have not placed a bid yet. But I am still interested so I am watching this thread :)

Apologies for any confusion.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: premium_domainer on July 06, 2015, 05:38:53 AM
Try flippa to sell your website. Your traffic is too good and people there buying morethan 1BTC.

Just an idea my friend.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 06, 2015, 05:52:55 AM
So you did not want to reuse the content and script. In that case i think you simply would have wasted a lot of your work. You could have sold the domain only when no one would have want to buy but normally buyers are more interested in a website that already has some traffic. Which would not be the case when the content would be missing.

Okay.  :)

Do I get full rights to the script used on the site?

And also, I'd like to know more about the hosting. Which hosting provider and which plan/packages.

My previous post wasn't a bid but to clarify my typo in my post prior to that one. But I may bid in this auction if you can answer my last two questions above :)

Thanks

Just clarify that you did or did not started as 1BTC.

Sorry, to clarify, I have not placed a bid yet. But I am still interested so I am watching this thread :)

Apologies for any confusion.

No problem.  ;)

Try flippa to sell your website. Your traffic is too good and people there buying morethan 1BTC.

Just an idea my friend.

Will do if I dont get it sold here. It will just not go cheaper then 1BTC.
Thanks for advice.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 07, 2015, 06:22:12 AM
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Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 08, 2015, 07:15:52 AM
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Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 09, 2015, 06:35:45 AM
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Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: Bitcoin Explorer on July 09, 2015, 08:36:03 AM
This seems  quite weird,  earlier the domain was used for a website which was used to check domains, though now,  I reckon it's a script. Moreover,  you are not sharing revenue details and the source of traffic.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 09, 2015, 08:45:57 AM
This seems  quite weird,  earlier the domain was used for a website which was used to check domains, though now,  I reckon it's a script. Moreover,  you are not sharing revenue details and the source of traffic.
So?


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: Bitcoin Explorer on July 09, 2015, 04:08:23 PM
This seems  quite weird,  earlier the domain was used for a website which was used to check domains, though now,  I reckon it's a script. Moreover,  you are not sharing revenue details and the source of traffic.
So?
The traffic may reduce drastically over a period of time once there is a change in ownership. There have been many instances of people trying to fake views, by using proxies and a bot or by purchasing dirt cheap traffic.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 09, 2015, 04:21:10 PM
This seems  quite weird,  earlier the domain was used for a website which was used to check domains, though now,  I reckon it's a script. Moreover,  you are not sharing revenue details and the source of traffic.
So?
The traffic may reduce drastically over a period of time once there is a change in ownership. There have been many instances of people trying to fake views, by using proxies and a bot or by purchasing dirt cheap traffic.
No it will not, as it's with that content about 6 months - unchanged.
And as I mentioned in post before, I might sell it complete, which is:

- domain name
- script and database
- webhosting (described up)
... well, entire website hosted and running "as is" now - unchanged - but then the starting bid would be 1BTC and no less.


Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 10, 2015, 01:04:28 AM
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Title: Re: Domain name: DomainHunters.org on auction!!
Post by: liteon on July 10, 2015, 10:52:27 AM
30 minutes left!