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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: stackoverflow on July 03, 2015, 01:36:14 PM



Title: [SCAM ALERT] crowdsale.io scam ico site
Post by: stackoverflow on July 03, 2015, 01:36:14 PM
crowdsale.io is a shady ico site, running icos for scam coins, here's my experience with it trying to buy some coins:

- by the time the ann was posted 88%+ ICO coins were sold

- i managed to send some btc and bought some coins which showed as paid on the ico website ledger before the ico was over

- this morning my purshase was removed and my btc refunded

Looks like no one but the dev can buy his coins at his SCAM site so he can pump at ease!



Title: Re: [SCAM ALERT] crowdsale.io scam ico site
Post by: fullhdpixel on July 03, 2015, 03:45:44 PM
See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1107592.msg11781595#msg11781595


Title: Re: [SCAM ALERT] crowdsale.io scam ico site
Post by: jerowacik on July 03, 2015, 03:51:19 PM
ya I know

i Dont care with ICO
just say to myself for not Buy ICO shit .... 
For me Mine it's good investment , buy Some GPU or asic for Mine new coin.....


Title: Re: [SCAM ALERT] crowdsale.io scam ico site
Post by: tensports on July 03, 2015, 07:30:12 PM
I wish there is a system on internet which can caught these scammers easily and send for justice


Title: Re: [SCAM ALERT] crowdsale.io scam ico site
Post by: master-P on July 03, 2015, 08:46:36 PM
It could very well just be the devs themselves buying up their own ICO coins. Can't exactly blame crowdsale.io for that as all they do is host the ICO by providing an easy to use medium for investors to invest their coins. What you decide to invest in should be your own responsibility considering how ICO scams are nothing new around here.


Title: Re: [SCAM ALERT] crowdsale.io scam ico site
Post by: stackoverflow on July 03, 2015, 11:46:30 PM
It could very well just be the devs themselves buying up their own ICO coins. Can't exactly blame crowdsale.io for that as all they do is host the ICO by providing an easy to use medium for investors to invest their coins. What you decide to invest in should be your own responsibility considering how ICO scams are nothing new around here.

Not sure what you are on a bout many got coins after ann was posted. I did. See it yourself. https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/1NPcouEBR2ffFd4RhBuHP9N1wKeYVNveh7  I saw this on my twitter feed. BTCtalk was down around that time. Don't be so salty.

Other than you i see no one bought after the ANN, oh wait, after checking your BTC address looks like you bought a lot more, and started buying even before the tweet:

Here you go:

the address https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/1NPcouEBR2ffFd4RhBuHP9N1wKeYVNveh7 got btc from https://blockchain.info/address/1PejTqLGtEX2jTFJig3WV6AioC2h4hnwAw now following this last address there seems to be a pattern of sending coins to the ICO address: https://blockchain.info/address/126mGGWgocmaDXYPkZeLW9QXK53gcVcdAs

Like this: https://blockchain.info/address/1PejTqLGtEX2jTFJig3WV6AioC2h4hnwAw ---> intermediary 1 or 2 addresses ---> https://blockchain.info/address/126mGGWgocmaDXYPkZeLW9QXK53gcVcdAs

So all buys originated from the same address, here are just a few:

https://blockchain.info/address/1LFxmmLbcu7vB299VRLNfF5gTpa5hTqsam
https://blockchain.info/address/1NPcouEBR2ffFd4RhBuHP9N1wKeYVNveh7
https://blockchain.info/address/19r1bzj1YLL1z4cnMrdd3bJkzQGLCZtBmi
https://blockchain.info/address/1Jcjb5QxogVjqCf5RXhVLNyfmQTrcwTRD6
https://blockchain.info/address/173cVmE1CzE1jQxxeafsYm8izG3hvBG5qc
https://blockchain.info/address/16HBQjmmHg97m2NdpiG6Zu6GvEvh8S87Mk
https://blockchain.info/address/1jqrtqS2d7YrMsmVCNmdtWVYbSV5UgdCg
https://blockchain.info/address/1LqL4daJfWNdnF6kyY3en5gp6R1DuuWtac
https://blockchain.info/address/1E3X4LCa7V6eYeqY9NRSHDbiWyYkaYEfp4
https://blockchain.info/address/1MaHyaxQPLi3Xo1x6ErwQ9nfsaZmdyg6Rn
https://blockchain.info/address/1KopTjrKNoiChCJX6kT76LVf5aFFVfq5ve
https://blockchain.info/address/1NPcouEBR2ffFd4RhBuHP9N1wKeYVNveh7

Don't tell me i'm salty or trolling, you have proof now. BUSTED!!!

Next time use a decent coin mixer  ;D

Yes the devs were caught red handed buying their own ICO, but the site is linked with this group as it hosts their ICO with the same pattern, and many people got their orders refunded even if they showed in the ledger for hours. So i guess crowdsale.io is the scam platform for this group!


Title: Re: [SCAM ALERT] crowdsale.io scam ico site
Post by: chesthing on July 05, 2015, 04:08:13 AM
I sent 1 btc with 1.35 btc remaining and hit the ledger with .35 btc remaining. After my btc was confirmed .2 was still remaining. I got refunded, fuck this scam.


Title: Re: [SCAM ALERT] crowdsale.io scam ico site
Post by: sifter on July 05, 2015, 04:26:48 AM
I sent 1 btc with 1.35 btc remaining and hit the ledger with .35 btc remaining. After my btc was confirmed .2 was still remaining. I got refunded, fuck this scam.

is the site crowdsale.io a scam or the coin/ICO/devs?


Title: Re: [SCAM ALERT] crowdsale.io scam ico site
Post by: BitcoinRichman on July 05, 2015, 04:31:08 AM
I sent 1 btc with 1.35 btc remaining and hit the ledger with .35 btc remaining. After my btc was confirmed .2 was still remaining. I got refunded, fuck this scam.

is the site crowdsale.io a scam or the coin/ICO/devs?
My opinion crowdsale is scam, also all coin where open ICO in crowdsale is scam too


Title: Re: [SCAM ALERT] crowdsale.io scam ico site
Post by: master-P on July 05, 2015, 05:28:17 AM
I sent 1 btc with 1.35 btc remaining and hit the ledger with .35 btc remaining. After my btc was confirmed .2 was still remaining. I got refunded, fuck this scam.

is the site crowdsale.io a scam or the coin/ICO/devs?
My opinion crowdsale is scam, also all coin where open ICO in crowdsale is scam too

Are you trying to suggest that crowdsale.io owns the coins they host ICO for? Otherwise, I can't see how you can label them as a scam. They are only providing a service and platform for those to host an ICO/crowdsale easily. Whether or not people invest in the ICOs is their own choice and they should be doing their own due diligence for anything they invest in.

As far as I can tell, crowdsale.io has not taken anyone's funds without owners' permission/knowledge but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this.


Title: Re: [SCAM ALERT] crowdsale.io scam ico site
Post by: fullhdpixel on July 05, 2015, 04:19:58 PM
I sent 1 btc with 1.35 btc remaining and hit the ledger with .35 btc remaining. After my btc was confirmed .2 was still remaining. I got refunded, fuck this scam.

There were unconfirmed transactions send before yours. You got a refund within 1 hour after the crowdsale completed.

We do not own the coins we sell. If you want proof, you can just create your own crowdsale at any moment.


Title: Re: [SCAM ALERT] crowdsale.io scam ico site
Post by: chesthing on July 06, 2015, 05:25:04 PM
I sent 1 btc with 1.35 btc remaining and hit the ledger with .35 btc remaining. After my btc was confirmed .2 was still remaining. I got refunded, fuck this scam.

There were unconfirmed transactions send before yours. You got a refund within 1 hour after the crowdsale completed.

We do not own the coins we sell. If you want proof, you can just create your own crowdsale at any moment.

If they were sent before me they would have shown in the ledger, just like my unconfirmed coins did.
Again, Fuck this scam. The dev decided to add to his 90+ btc buys and take the last 2.5 btc for himself and kick us out, it's that simple.
Why don't they just premine coins and get them added to the exchange? skip the whole pretense of an ico.


Title: Re: [SCAM ALERT] crowdsale.io scam ico site
Post by: fullhdpixel on July 06, 2015, 05:31:40 PM
I sent 1 btc with 1.35 btc remaining and hit the ledger with .35 btc remaining. After my btc was confirmed .2 was still remaining. I got refunded, fuck this scam.

There were unconfirmed transactions send before yours. You got a refund within 1 hour after the crowdsale completed.

We do not own the coins we sell. If you want proof, you can just create your own crowdsale at any moment.

If they were sent before me they would have shown in the ledger, just like my unconfirmed coins did.
Again, Fuck this scam. The dev decided to add to his 90+ btc buys and take the last 2.5 btc for himself and kick us out, it's that simple.

No, the ledger was not up to date and once it processed the transactions after the delay the refunded ones came in last.

Btw: Did you even read my first reply?


Title: Re: [SCAM ALERT] crowdsale.io scam ico site
Post by: chesthing on July 06, 2015, 05:38:50 PM
I sent 1 btc with 1.35 btc remaining and hit the ledger with .35 btc remaining. After my btc was confirmed .2 was still remaining. I got refunded, fuck this scam.

There were unconfirmed transactions send before yours. You got a refund within 1 hour after the crowdsale completed.

We do not own the coins we sell. If you want proof, you can just create your own crowdsale at any moment.

If they were sent before me they would have shown in the ledger, just like my unconfirmed coins did.
Again, Fuck this scam. The dev decided to add to his 90+ btc buys and take the last 2.5 btc for himself and kick us out, it's that simple.

No, the ledger was not up to date and once it processed the transactions after the delay the refunded ones came in last.

Btw: Did you even read my first reply?

The ledger updated within seconds of my sending my btc. Even though it didn't confirm for another 20 minutes or so, the avail btc went from 1.35 to .35 and my address showed .998 btc credited in the ledger almost immediately of my sending the coins. How is it possible somebody else sent btc that didn't do the same thing - that it waited for full confirmation before showing in the ledger?
Did you read my first post here? you still haven't answered how that's possible.

"Realtime Bitcoin crowdfunding platform"

What exactly does "realtime" refer to? does it refer to the btc being credited when it is sent rather than when it is confirmed perhaps?