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MoreBloodWine has your account been sold?  And or changed hands.

If anyone can confirm this please let me know.


Thanks

As a follow up I pm'd him (MoreBloodWine) he answered me and gave me info that kind of makes me think he did not change hands on the account.

Which means the person that told me was wrong.

I was asked to alter my trust on MoreBloodWine.

 I have done business with him (MoreBloodWine) and still trust him.

I now have an issue with the person that asked me to alter the trust rating.


Frankly I would like some feedback on this thread since it is a holiday I realize no one read much on site today.

Deserves negative trust. Both you and MoreBloodWine should give him negative trust.

I need to understand why he would tell me wrong info.

I ate and partied a lot today.


 I will keep an eye out here to understand if it was just a simple error.  Then decide what to do on Monday.

Well I can prove I am who I am with the original btc account I have posted here ending zht or something like that but I never have or know how to "sign a message".

As for giving the guy neg trust, it's just be retaliated and I want to keep my rating as it stands.

How to sign a message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0)

Private keys at home but will do it by the 7th, but how often do people generally sign a message, just in question of possible doubt ?

Signing a message from an old address is evidence that the account was not sold, however it is possible that the private keys changed hands when the account was sold. If the address associated with the private key still has funds associated with it then the chances of the account being sold decreases significantly.

Regardless, I don't think the account being sold is a reason for it to receive any kind of negative trust as the owner presumably paid money for the account (and it's associated reputation) and as a result has an incentive to maintain any potential reputation that it currently has.

It is actually quite rare that purchased accounts are used for scams. In my personal experience, when accounts are purchased with the intention of scamming, they are caught prior to being able to pull of their scam attempt, end up receiving negative trust, and end up wasting the money they paid for the account. In the rare instances when accounts that are sold are able to successfully scam, most of the time the amount they were able to scam was significantly less then the value of the account, making their investment a loosing one.

The majority of the time sold accounts are used for signature campaigns. However I have seen a number of accounts that had neutral trust when they were purchased, were used to make a large number of honest trades over a long period of time, gained a large amount of trust, and ended up on default trust. I will not disclose the name(s) of these accounts for obvious reasons.

MoreBloodWine contacted me last night gave me his name and address.  It is the same name and address I sent merchandise to in 2014.


I can mail a letter to the address on Monday with a sentence and a number.  He can PM the contents of the letter back to me.

Not a perfect test but pretty good.

The problem I have is I was PM'ed the info so the person sent a PM back to me today telling me some one reliable gave him the info.



I do not  want to get an endless stream of PM's with wrong info. That I spend a few hours checking out> I am not able to deal with this type of problem on a regular basis.

For now I won't reveal the sender of the PM.  Now as we all know staff and admin can read PM's.  I sure they read this thread and looked at the PM.
I am inclined to think The sender was misinformed and did not do this with bad intent. I can't read every PM the sent by this person.  But staff can. If they want to bother to do so they can see if he has made shit ton of wrong PM's.

I am going to enjoy the rest of  the Holiday weekend.

Best Regards to all. Phil

 :)

If you haven't posted the address in the past then signing a message doesn't mean very much. Luckily I was able to find an old post where you did post that address.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49417.msg5201758#msg5201758

Hrm, thought I would have had an older post with that address.

Hey Phillip, I forgot I got this account back some time ago after I think a 2nd hack, worse than the original. In any event. I will be handling you first to get negative trust removed within the coming week or two, depends on my schedule. I still have access to (1AKjJqVViFZGYat2BqerLPyYWscwVEPZht) which is seems the only references are here in this post since the hacker couldn't delete those references. Hopefully that will be enough.

TTYL my friend.

But ya, I got some cleaning up left to do before returning to this account, currently, well not so currently... haven't used it for a while but am on NinjaMan35.

Edit: Nm, I was using search wrong but did find some other references, one going back to 2013 for addr 1AKjJqVViFZGYat2BqerLPyYWscwVEPZht.

I had a few mins to spare and didn't want to forget...

Address:
Message:
Signature:
Once verified Phillip, Lauda & Bill Gator, feel free to quote and remove neg trust at your convenience... Ty.

Message verified (https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify?vrAddr=1AKjJqVViFZGYat2BqerLPyYWscwVEPZht&vrMsg=I%20MoreBloodWine%20aka%20NinjaMan35%20on%20this%20day%2C%20May%209th%202020%20am%20signing%20this%20message%20because%20i%20am%20yet%20again%20having%20to%20confirm%20account%20ownership.&vrSig=HCvaqTMnRGVNbT0FbF5soTKZEgAaPj0a9PSUS8b2ljVcKxzrjDO5AF%2FoJ%2FLgIx5g%2BNyya%2B7iTQvS2HuHWaT8%2B8g%3D):

Thanks I will check my negs on this.

lifted the neg. also gave 1 merit to more red wine and  2 to direwolfm14 for leg work to check signature.

Ty Philip, just waiting on one guy now. But he hasn't been on for 3 months lol... not too worried at present.

But glad to have this bad boy back !

bill gator is/was a fraudulent user and he is not in DT. His rating is therefore irrelevant. You do not have to think about it, there are many outdated old ratings like that.

Even if that is the case, I'd still like it removed via an admin. Which should be feasible given that is the case.

Edit: Even if BG meant well enough at the time, he most likely would never had placed it if I didn't ask.

Do not trust most of the trolls here like Lauda, who are already kicked out of both DT1 by theymos and DT2 by the community. Bill is a pretty nice guy, I think you should try sending bill gator a PM, I am sure he would respond as soon as he checks his account rather than trying to remove it via admin action.

GTFO pajeet. Nobody asked you anything.

Highly unlikely. Admins do not do this unless there is excessive abuse.

I sent him a message like 2 days ago and am continuing to wait, but am still covering my bases. DT or not, I'm a "completionist" if that makes any sense.

Basically think that if I own three versions of a game and beat the first one. I wont start the second one, let alone the third until I've collected all the in-game trophies, forgetting network specific ones.

Edit: Pretty much I wont start using this account like I use to until the BG one is removed, not that I have a reason to really return full force in a manner of speaking right now anyway.

That attitude is going to bring more sorrow than relief. In contrast to your views, I look upon negative feedback as achievements - battle scars from butthurt users - no one on the forum will have a clean feedback sheet forever. And if you encounter a user that decides to flog you with a slew of negatives, it's highly unlikely that they will remove it. Just take a look at my trust page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=465017) as an example.

Gems like:

• I think your brain is a zero-value item
• THIS PERSON IS A PEDOPHILE ! HE WAS ALREADY REPORTED TO RELATED FACEBOOK PAGE. PLEASE REPORT THIS PERSON TO POLICE AND FBI. SEE THE REFERRAL LINK FOR DETAILS. THANK YOU!

... are probably not going to be removed any time soon.

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Obviously, the feedback left by BG isn't because of butthurtness, but you should at least prepare yourself for the possibility of receiving negs. Thicker the skin, the less they'll get under it.

Problem solved, and I dont have a clean sheet with or without BG's remark. Look at someone claiming I was a shill for IGotSpots lol...

I wouldn't expect you to understand but it was / is wanting my account to tech return to what it was before I had "lost" it.