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Title: How to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: MikeMike on July 05, 2015, 05:17:54 AM
Hiya,

I have an ancient XP Pro laptop connected to the internet via a Wireless USB stick.
It has a 10/100 port.
Could Bitmain miners be hooked to a Network switch and the switch hooked to the 10/100 port
on the laptop and connect to the internet via the wireless USB stick.

I have an old cable router with a USB port and don't know if that could come in handy.
Be awesome to get these miners up and running.

There's gotta be some way this could be accomplished....

EDIT:
I  know on W8.1 you can go in and change the network address.
I remember once on an 8.1 getting a single antminer to run through the 10/100 and wireless.

I got the 10/100 to show: 192.168.0.8
But the antminers are 192.168.1.99 to set them up.
However this is XP Pro and have not found a way to change the IP address of the 10/100 network.
Is this an XPissue?
could this be done on W8.1 Pro?

Much thanks!
 :)


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: philipma1957 on July 05, 2015, 02:13:29 PM
What kind of antminer?

S-1
S-3
S-5


S-2
S-4
S-4+

C-1

U-1
U-2
U-3

I think it is an s-1, s-3, s-5  but I am not sure which one you want to do.


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: MikeMike on July 05, 2015, 02:52:10 PM
What kind of antminer?

S-1
S-3
S-5


S-2
S-4
S-4+

C-1

U-1
U-2
U-3

I think it is an s-1, s-3, s-5  but I am not sure which one you want to do.


I found how to change the TCP IP settings.
I set the wireless TCP/IP to:
192.168.1.70
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1
192.168.1.1

I  set the 10/100 TCP/IP to:
192.168.1.71
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1
192.168.1.1

I can now go through the Network switch and find the Antminers
and program them.

How do I get them to connect to the internet and mine?


S1
S2
S3
S4
Conterra


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: philipma1957 on July 05, 2015, 03:08:38 PM
What kind of antminer?

S-1
S-3
S-5


S-2
S-4
S-4+

C-1

U-1
U-2
U-3

I think it is an s-1, s-3, s-5  but I am not sure which one you want to do.


I found how to change the TCP IP settings but don't know what to change them to.
Neither the default gateway nor the preferred DNS server.
S1
S2
S3
S4
Conterra

try 192.168.1.1 and try 192.168.1.1  for both the gateway and the DNS server.


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: MikeMike on July 05, 2015, 03:13:44 PM
What kind of antminer?

S-1
S-3
S-5


S-2
S-4
S-4+

C-1

U-1
U-2
U-3

I think it is an s-1, s-3, s-5  but I am not sure which one you want to do.


I found how to change the TCP IP settings but don't know what to change them to.
Neither the default gateway nor the preferred DNS server.
S1
S2
S3
S4
Conterra

try 192.168.1.1 and try 192.168.1.1  for both the gateway and the DNS server.

Done.

I found how to change the TCP IP settings.
I set the wireless TCP/IP to:
192.168.1.70
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1
192.168.1.1

I  set the 10/100 TCP/IP to:
192.168.1.71
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1
192.168.1.1

I can now go through the Network switch and find the Antminers
and program them.

EDIT:
I can only get the wireless connection to the Internet.
OR
The Network Switch and Miners connection.
It will not allow both.

Could my old wireless Router be used via the 10/100 port and the wireless portion
be used to connect the laptop to the wireless cable router I get the internet from?
OR
Is there some way to get the two networks to communicate through the Laptop?
The 10/100 and the Wireless...

http://i60.tinypic.com/2yycoao.jpg


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: notlist3d on July 05, 2015, 07:12:30 PM
Honestly look into a wireless router with client mode, if you truly just have wireless.   I would use ethernet over wireless if a choice.

But with a router with client mode you can connect to wireless, and plug devices into it via ethernet.  It's going to be much better (and cheaper electricity) then a laptop running 24x7.


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: jlauzon on July 05, 2015, 07:15:28 PM
Just curious why you don't just use a USB hub on the laptop. This design seems like the hard way.


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: jlauzon on July 05, 2015, 07:19:42 PM
Sorry, just looked at your diagram and see you're not using the USB miners. I've used a network switch to a wireless ethernet bridge to hook multiple S4s into the LAN. I don't see the problem you're presenting I guess.


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: MikeMike on July 06, 2015, 03:14:39 AM
Sorry, just looked at your diagram and see you're not using the USB miners. I've used a network switch to a wireless ethernet bridge to hook multiple S4s into the LAN. I don't see the problem you're presenting I guess.

Could you elaborate please:

What is a "wireless ethernet bridge"?
Is that the same as using a wireless router in "Client Mode"?


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: MikeMike on July 06, 2015, 03:32:05 AM
Honestly look into a wireless router with client mode, if you truly just have wireless.   I would use ethernet over wireless if a choice.

But with a router with client mode you can connect to wireless, and plug devices into it via ethernet.  It's going to be much better (and cheaper electricity) then a laptop running 24x7.

Thanks for the info but I need to do it without that.
I have a Linksys EA6500 and searching to see if it has "Client Mode" and how to activate it.




Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: jlauzon on July 06, 2015, 03:33:44 AM
Sorry, just looked at your diagram and see you're not using the USB miners. I've used a network switch to a wireless ethernet bridge to hook multiple S4s into the LAN. I don't see the problem you're presenting I guess.

Could you elaborate please:

What is a "wireless ethernet bridge"?

It picks up the wifi signal and provides at least one ethernet port into the LAN. Like this:
http://tinyurl.com/q88vqbj

Plug your miners into the switch, then the switch into the bridge.


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: MikeMike on July 06, 2015, 04:42:06 AM
Sorry, just looked at your diagram and see you're not using the USB miners. I've used a network switch to a wireless ethernet bridge to hook multiple S4s into the LAN. I don't see the problem you're presenting I guess.

Could you elaborate please:

What is a "wireless ethernet bridge"?

It picks up the wifi signal and provides at least one ethernet port into the LAN. Like this:
http://tinyurl.com/q88vqbj

Plug your miners into the switch, then the switch into the bridge.

My Linksys has a "bridge Mode".
I activated it and can no longer login even by it's direct IP address.
I still can access the miners BUT no internet.
Not sure I have it setup right.


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: jlauzon on July 06, 2015, 04:50:57 AM
Sorry, just looked at your diagram and see you're not using the USB miners. I've used a network switch to a wireless ethernet bridge to hook multiple S4s into the LAN. I don't see the problem you're presenting I guess.

Could you elaborate please:

What is a "wireless ethernet bridge"?

It picks up the wifi signal and provides at least one ethernet port into the LAN. Like this:
http://tinyurl.com/q88vqbj

Plug your miners into the switch, then the switch into the bridge.

My Linksys has a "bridge Mode".
I activated it and can no longer login even by it's direct IP address.
I still can access the miners BUT no internet.
Not sure I have it setup right.

Yeah, if it has bridge mode, it should just act as a "proxy" to convert the wifi signal into the ethernet port. What model is it? I've had to config a few different brands/models - some are super easy and some nearly impossible. I have one by Belkin that you just plugged your laptop into, set gateway and wifi credentials and it just worked.

Send me the brand/model and I'll see if I can offer any tips.


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: MikeMike on July 06, 2015, 05:46:46 AM
Sorry, just looked at your diagram and see you're not using the USB miners. I've used a network switch to a wireless ethernet bridge to hook multiple S4s into the LAN. I don't see the problem you're presenting I guess.

Could you elaborate please:

What is a "wireless ethernet bridge"?

It picks up the wifi signal and provides at least one ethernet port into the LAN. Like this:
http://tinyurl.com/q88vqbj

Plug your miners into the switch, then the switch into the bridge.

My Linksys has a "bridge Mode".
I activated it and can no longer login even by it's direct IP address.
I still can access the miners BUT no internet.
Not sure I have it setup right.

Yeah, if it has bridge mode, it should just act as a "proxy" to convert the wifi signal into the ethernet port. What model is it? I've had to config a few different brands/models - some are super easy and some nearly impossible. I have one by Belkin that you just plugged your laptop into, set gateway and wifi credentials and it just worked.

Send me the brand/model and I'll see if I can offer any tips.

Thanks! I appreciate your help.
Linksys EA6500

I guess I have to do a factory reset since I can no longer access it.


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: MikeMike on July 07, 2015, 03:54:47 AM
Sorry, just looked at your diagram and see you're not using the USB miners. I've used a network switch to a wireless ethernet bridge to hook multiple S4s into the LAN. I don't see the problem you're presenting I guess.

Could you elaborate please:

What is a "wireless ethernet bridge"?

It picks up the wifi signal and provides at least one ethernet port into the LAN. Like this:
http://tinyurl.com/q88vqbj

Plug your miners into the switch, then the switch into the bridge.

My Linksys has a "bridge Mode".
I activated it and can no longer login even by it's direct IP address.
I still can access the miners BUT no internet.
Not sure I have it setup right.

Yeah, if it has bridge mode, it should just act as a "proxy" to convert the wifi signal into the ethernet port. What model is it? I've had to config a few different brands/models - some are super easy and some nearly impossible. I have one by Belkin that you just plugged your laptop into, set gateway and wifi credentials and it just worked.

Send me the brand/model and I'll see if I can offer any tips.

From these Linksys guides they both show using a network cable.
I need to use the wireless.

http://www.linksys.com/us/support-article?articleNum=132275
http://www.linksys.com/us/support-article?articleNum=143751


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: jlauzon on July 07, 2015, 04:43:50 AM
Sorry, just looked at your diagram and see you're not using the USB miners. I've used a network switch to a wireless ethernet bridge to hook multiple S4s into the LAN. I don't see the problem you're presenting I guess.

Could you elaborate please:

What is a "wireless ethernet bridge"?

It picks up the wifi signal and provides at least one ethernet port into the LAN. Like this:
http://tinyurl.com/q88vqbj

Plug your miners into the switch, then the switch into the bridge.

My Linksys has a "bridge Mode".
I activated it and can no longer login even by it's direct IP address.
I still can access the miners BUT no internet.
Not sure I have it setup right.

Yeah, if it has bridge mode, it should just act as a "proxy" to convert the wifi signal into the ethernet port. What model is it? I've had to config a few different brands/models - some are super easy and some nearly impossible. I have one by Belkin that you just plugged your laptop into, set gateway and wifi credentials and it just worked.

Send me the brand/model and I'll see if I can offer any tips.

From these Linksys guides they both show using a network cable.
I need to use the wireless.

http://www.linksys.com/us/support-article?articleNum=132275
http://www.linksys.com/us/support-article?articleNum=143751

From the first link: "NOTE:  The wireless equivalent of cascading is called bridging.  This method is officially supported only by selected router models.  For more information and instructions in setting your router as a wireless bridge, cli.k here."

See if yours is in the select list, if not, that device won't do what you're trying to do.


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: MikeMike on July 07, 2015, 06:43:49 PM
Sorry, just looked at your diagram and see you're not using the USB miners. I've used a network switch to a wireless ethernet bridge to hook multiple S4s into the LAN. I don't see the problem you're presenting I guess.

Could you elaborate please:

What is a "wireless ethernet bridge"?

It picks up the wifi signal and provides at least one ethernet port into the LAN. Like this:
http://tinyurl.com/q88vqbj

Plug your miners into the switch, then the switch into the bridge.

My Linksys has a "bridge Mode".
I activated it and can no longer login even by it's direct IP address.
I still can access the miners BUT no internet.
Not sure I have it setup right.

Yeah, if it has bridge mode, it should just act as a "proxy" to convert the wifi signal into the ethernet port. What model is it? I've had to config a few different brands/models - some are super easy and some nearly impossible. I have one by Belkin that you just plugged your laptop into, set gateway and wifi credentials and it just worked.

Send me the brand/model and I'll see if I can offer any tips.

From these Linksys guides they both show using a network cable.
I need to use the wireless.

http://www.linksys.com/us/support-article?articleNum=132275
http://www.linksys.com/us/support-article?articleNum=143751

From the first link: "NOTE:  The wireless equivalent of cascading is called bridging.  This method is officially supported only by selected router models.  For more information and instructions in setting your router as a wireless bridge, cli.k here."

See if yours is in the select list, if not, that device won't do what you're trying to do.

My EA6500 supports bridging in the "smart wifi account" settings.
I followed the instructions but it will not access the internet nor can I access the router
as it never resets properly "light keeps blinking"
Looks like I have to do a factory rest and try again.


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: MikeMike on July 14, 2015, 02:57:36 AM
Turns out my My EA6500 supports bridging only in Lan mode though it does say wireless.

I'm picking up a wireless range extender and will post how it works...

MM


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: notlist3d on July 14, 2015, 03:13:50 AM
Turns out my My EA6500 supports bridging only in Lan mode though it does say wireless.

I'm picking up a wireless range extender and will post how it works...

MM

Or you can get a wireless router that supports client mode.  Not all of them do.  But with client mode you can connect through wireless to another AP, and plug in multiple devices in the Ethernet slots.

Also on router it could be personal opinion but if your looking at range extenders/routers.  I would see if you can get one with upgradable antennas.   I personally like being able to upgrade the antennas.  But that is personal preference.


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: MikeMike on July 14, 2015, 06:56:02 AM
Turns out my My EA6500 supports bridging only in Lan mode though it does say wireless.

I'm picking up a wireless range extender and will post how it works...

MM

Or you can get a wireless router that supports client mode.  Not all of them do.  But with client mode you can connect through wireless to another AP, and plug in multiple devices in the Ethernet slots.

Also on router it could be personal opinion but if your looking at range extenders/routers.  I would see if you can get one with upgradable antennas.   I personally like being able to upgrade the antennas.  But that is personal preference.

Thanks, I appreciate the ideas.
I'm cash strapped right now so taking the cheapest course of action.
It does make sense to get removable antennas if possible.


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: notlist3d on July 14, 2015, 07:44:44 AM
Turns out my My EA6500 supports bridging only in Lan mode though it does say wireless.

I'm picking up a wireless range extender and will post how it works...

MM

Or you can get a wireless router that supports client mode.  Not all of them do.  But with client mode you can connect through wireless to another AP, and plug in multiple devices in the Ethernet slots.

Also on router it could be personal opinion but if your looking at range extenders/routers.  I would see if you can get one with upgradable antennas.   I personally like being able to upgrade the antennas.  But that is personal preference.

Thanks, I appreciate the ideas.
I'm cash strapped right now so taking the cheapest course of action.
It does make sense to get removable antennas if possible.


Honestly you will never regret getting removable antennas.  I am not close to anyone so I have some very nice antennas and tomato firmware running on a router where I can adjust wireless strength.  Allows me to get much much more distance.

Not for everyone but it is my preference.  And multiple antennas is nice depending on features.


Title: Re: Ho to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: MikeMike on July 15, 2015, 08:21:06 AM
Turns out my My EA6500 supports bridging only in Lan mode though it does say wireless.

I'm picking up a wireless range extender and will post how it works...

MM

Or you can get a wireless router that supports client mode.  Not all of them do.  But with client mode you can connect through wireless to another AP, and plug in multiple devices in the Ethernet slots.

Also on router it could be personal opinion but if your looking at range extenders/routers.  I would see if you can get one with upgradable antennas.   I personally like being able to upgrade the antennas.  But that is personal preference.

Picked up a Netgear EX6200 wireless extender.
I tried a cheaper version that actually seemed to have better range in feet but it flaked out and had to return it.
Lost 12 blocks trying to save a buck!
 :P

The extender is running through a Verizon Hot Spot I had already.

First two miners hooked up quick and wasted hours getting more running.
Had to reboot both wireless devices.

MM


Title: Re: How to Mine Antminers Through a Laptop wireless USB stick???
Post by: MikeMike on July 16, 2015, 10:56:09 AM
OK here's the catch and how I set it up:

I Put a static IP to the Jetpack (.1.1) and the EX6200 extender (.1.2).
I also put a static DNS Server (.1.1) so when rebooting it does not pick up alternative wireless
networks it may decide to try connect to first.
The Verizon Jet Pack Hot Spot in 3G only allows you 5 connections/IP addresses
and most the time it's only 4 connections. I will be calling Verizon Tech support on this.
In 4G it allows 10 connections/IPs which gives me 9 miners once I disconnect my laptop
since the Extender takes up one connection.

Problems:
When I set the Jetpack to only use 4G it would never connect
to the internet ever. Very strange.
In 3G mode it will pick and choose which IPs to connect to the net
and when you reboot the EX6200 or the Jetpack if you have more than 4 IPs
connected to the Extender the connections would vary.

What I had to do is:
1-Set the Jetpack to Automatic.
2-Boot everything up and let it connect to a few IPs.
3-Shut the Jetpack down.
4-Reboot the EX6200 Extender.
5-Immediately turn on the Jetpack.
Every time I follow this procedure I get 4G and all IPs.  :)
Every time I don't I get 3G and 4 connections and though it may
switch to 4G or be 4G from the boot up of the Jetpack it will
either not connect to the net or only give me 4 IP's.

For some reason this procedure makes the Jetpack choose 4G
and I get the entire 10 IP connections.
Yesterday I had 5 miners running.
Today it's 6. Hopefully tomorrow it will be 9.

Go figure!?

MM

NOTE:
The Jetpack is 175ft away from the EX6200 Extender.
Connection through a 10" cement block wall and two 5/8" sheet rock steel studded walls
covered both sides on both walls.