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Title: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: alberthendriks on July 05, 2015, 09:09:34 PM
I've seen some discussions of users selling or buying bitcointalk accounts. Another day I saw a discussion between two hero members praising each other and saying that you should really use the other one's (paid) services. Because of the trading of accounts, I don't trust the status of any account anymore.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: zz11 on July 05, 2015, 09:18:07 PM
If you have a Hero account with ownership proof you can get almost 0.5 BTC. So at least financially its not worthless. Signature campaigns pay a lot more for Hero members too.

If you are saying about trust only then you shouldn't have been trusting an account just because it is Hero anyway. If you are trading always use a reputed escrow.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: erikalui on July 05, 2015, 09:22:31 PM
Even if accounts were not traded here, you shouldn't trust the rank or feedback of any account. Usually it's advised to use an escrow if you aren't sure but still you need to check an account's credibility before trading with any person on the forum. Escrows don't usually trade their accounts and hence most of them can be trusted. Eg: Tomatocage.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: kneim on July 05, 2015, 09:24:25 PM
Hero accounts are not worthless, of course. They are very useful to throw away your reputation very cheap.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: lihuajkl on July 06, 2015, 02:14:51 AM
Hero accounts have values supported by the massive recognition and the large amount of payout by signature campaign! Ppl here are eager to have hero accounts. Their holders wouldn't do anything bad (small amount) to ruin their hero accounts.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: tmfp on July 06, 2015, 12:22:04 PM
As has been said, Hero accounts are worth a few bucks because signature campaigns know that all their previous posts will carry their advertising, so they get a big exposure in more serious threads as well as depth of time and total post count.
They are worth nothing per se in terms of trustability because of the trading of accounts.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on July 06, 2015, 12:27:00 PM
Hero accounts have values supported by the massive recognition and the large amount of payout by signature campaign! Ppl here are eager to have hero accounts. Their holders wouldn't do anything bad (small amount) to ruin their hero accounts.

I totally agree with that but sometimes people sell their accounts discretely. If a scammer buys a hero account he could have the intention of using a previously trusted hero account to trick people into being scammed.
Personally I think it takes a long time to become a hero member, it's sort of an achievement so I'd never dream of selling mine when I become a hero member.

To directly respond to the OP hero accounts are nowhere near worthless, you can earn over 6 BTC  a year as a hero member just by participating in a pay per post signature campaign. If you're on here a lot posting then you might aswell get paid for it.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: erikalui on July 06, 2015, 05:41:24 PM
I totally agree with that but sometimes people sell their accounts discretely. If a scammer buys a hero account he could have the intention of using a previously trusted hero account to trick people into being scammed.
Personally I think it takes a long time to become a hero member, it's sort of an achievement so I'd never dream of selling mine when I become a hero member.

To directly respond to the OP hero accounts are nowhere near worthless, you can earn over 6 BTC  a year as a hero member just by participating in a pay per post signature campaign. If you're on here a lot posting then you might aswell get paid for it.

There are some members who sell their Hero accounts and sometimes even Legendary accounts as they don't want to deal in bitcoins ever. For them, their BCT account would be lying untouched and would become useless and hence they sell it to earn about $50-$100. It's a good deal for them. I wouldn't be surprised if an escrow too thinks of selling their accounts but that's a rare case which could be dangerous.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: ColderThanIce on July 06, 2015, 05:47:04 PM
There are some members who sell their Hero accounts and sometimes even Legendary accounts as they don't want to deal in bitcoins ever. For them, their BCT account would be lying untouched and would become useless and hence they sell it to earn about $50-$100. It's a good deal for them. I wouldn't be surprised if an escrow too thinks of selling their accounts but that's a rare case which could be dangerous.
I've also seen at least one listing for an account on level 2 default trust. It was awhile ago, and if I remember right it sold for a fairly high amount. But I agree, once you start selling accounts with high trust ratings, or being on default trust then chances are the account being sold will be used for scamming rather than making money on signature campaigns.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on July 06, 2015, 06:20:16 PM

I've also seen at least one listing for an account on level 2 default trust. It was awhile ago, and if I remember right it sold for a fairly high amount. But I agree, once you start selling accounts with high trust ratings, or being on default trust then chances are the account being sold will be used for scamming rather than making money on signature campaigns.

IMO the chance of a sold trusted account successfully scamming are not very good these days because people always asks for a signed message when they have a hunch or see a little change in your way of posting.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: erikalui on July 06, 2015, 07:17:52 PM

I've also seen at least one listing for an account on level 2 default trust. It was awhile ago, and if I remember right it sold for a fairly high amount. But I agree, once you start selling accounts with high trust ratings, or being on default trust then chances are the account being sold will be used for scamming rather than making money on signature campaigns.

IMO the chance of a sold trusted account successfully scamming are not very good these days because people always asks for a signed message when they have a hunch or see a little change in your way of posting.

The only way a user can get to know whether the account is sold or not is by checking any changes in the password (which has a record only of the past 30 days) or when the user posts any thread. What if he/she sends a message to newbies who don't bother asking for a signed message. Not everyone over here does ask for a signed message while trading unless they find the account having a suspicious behavior. The only reason these accounts are sold is because of paid signatures else they are useless/worthless and unfortunately people buy these accounts for scamming rather than signature campaigns.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: shorena on July 07, 2015, 06:47:40 PM
I've seen some discussions of users selling or buying bitcointalk accounts. Another day I saw a discussion between two hero members praising each other and saying that you should really use the other one's (paid) services. Because of the trading of accounts, I don't trust the status of any account anymore.

Good.

Hero (or any other rank) only means: I spend a lot of time here and I post a lot, well or I bought the account from someone who did. That should be no ground for trust. Look into someone if you want to trust them.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: sdmathis on July 07, 2015, 06:51:29 PM
I hope Hero accounts aren't worthless. I'm almost there myself, and I like the idea of having the word "Hero" as a title. I've always wanted to be a superhero. I wonder if I get to wear tights and a cape.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: Xialla on July 07, 2015, 08:42:05 PM
from financial perspective, they obviously worth something, just because you can sell them and they had better pay per post ratio in sig. campaign.

anyway, from any other perspective, I don't see any advantage, it is just mark, that you spent some time here and discover this forum/bitcoin sooner than others newly incoming..nothing else.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: LouisVuitton on July 08, 2015, 02:40:42 AM
No people are known to pay big amounts for Hero rank accounts, however deal with caution


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: BIT-Sharon on July 08, 2015, 06:48:56 AM
I think it's worthless to talk about this topic.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: White sugar on July 08, 2015, 06:53:25 AM
I think no, otherwise people would not pay upt to 1 BTC for them, would they?


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: ifightformerkel on July 08, 2015, 02:01:28 PM
Hero accounts are not worthless, this are on of the most expensive accounts here.

With good trust you can get to 0.8 BTC here for it.

In high paid signature campagins you can make 0.6 BTC or more in 1 month!


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on July 08, 2015, 02:36:37 PM
Hero accounts are not worthless, this are on of the most expensive accounts here.

With good trust you can get to 0.8 BTC here for it.

In high paid signature campagins you can make 0.6 BTC or more in 1 month!

that's not the right answer for OP's question. the main question of this topic is not their price but their opinion and trust. should people believe that whatever site a hero ranked member vouched for is legit? the answer to that is no.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on July 08, 2015, 02:43:49 PM
What about legendary accounts?


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on July 08, 2015, 02:49:43 PM
What about legendary accounts?

not the rank, no. but Legendary members are very few and you can just spare some time and look at their post history to see if their opinions have any value and trustworthy or not. but of course that's just my opinion.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on July 08, 2015, 02:52:43 PM
What about legendary accounts?

not the rank, no. but Legendary members are very few and you can just spare some time and look at their post history to see if their opinions have any value and trustworthy or not. but of course that's just my opinion.

I don't really take any notice of the rankings to be honest.

There's nothing worth reading in my post history.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: dothebeats on July 08, 2015, 06:37:11 PM
I've seen some discussions of users selling or buying bitcointalk accounts. Another day I saw a discussion between two hero members praising each other and saying that you should really use the other one's (paid) services. Because of the trading of accounts, I don't trust the status of any account anymore.

They aren't worthless, Hero Members in this forum are just used to the forum that's why you see them recommending services to themselves. Also, if you sell a hero member account, that is a potential 0.5 btc. And signature campaigns also offer higher rates to hero members compared to lower ranks.

But keep in mind that a member's rank in this forum doesn't define his/her trustworthiness; it only describes how long has he/she been here in this forum.


Title: Re: Are Hero accounts worthless?
Post by: niki25 on July 09, 2015, 09:21:50 AM
Hero accounts have values supported by the massive recognition and the large amount of payout by signature campaign! Ppl here are eager to have hero accounts. Their holders wouldn't do anything bad (small amount) to ruin their hero accounts.

I totally agree with that but sometimes people sell their accounts discretely. If a scammer buys a hero account he could have the intention of using a previously trusted hero account to trick people into being scammed.
Personally I think it takes a long time to become a hero member, it's sort of an achievement so I'd never dream of selling mine when I become a hero member.

To directly respond to the OP hero accounts are nowhere near worthless, you can earn over 6 BTC  a year as a hero member just by participating in a pay per post signature campaign. If you're on here a lot posting then you might aswell get paid for it.

You two got the points there.
An hero member account wont ruin himself in scams or so.
Other different thing is if the account has been bought.
So in my opinion, hero member accounts are not worthless, however if you are going to trust someone (maybe for an off market trade), if possible always use some escrow.