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I'm  proud to announce the official launch of sale of this limited serie's of 100 original Bitcoin Bullion Bars minted  from number  0001 to number  0100

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No preorders, available immediatly !



Original Bitcoin bullion  bar


Global feature :


weight : 31,8 g ; 40.3 g with the plastic capsule protection.

size:  50 x 28 x 2.8 mm

marerial: Brass,  silver plated

front size feature :

« One Troy Ounce,

« 999 Fine silver »

« in Bitcoin we trust »

« Libertas – Aequitas - Veritas »



back size feature :


«  in cryptography we trust «






package: Each Bitcoin Bullion Bar comes  with:  

- a  protective  rigid plastic capsule;

- a certificate of authenticity, matching to the number of  the Bar;

- two  securities  "original, genuine guaranted Original" Hologram in silver and golden Global design Dia. 20mm to seal your paper wallet with it..

These Bar comes unfunded, but they could be charged on specific demand..
You can add your own private key if you want to add funds to the Bar by yourself..




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THIS SALE KEEP ON PRIVATE NOW
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Prices: 0,15 Bitcoins / pack + shipping


1 pack = ( 1 Original numbered Bitcoin Bullion Bar  with its  protective capsule + 1 COA + 2 hollographics security stickers )



 

I was just wondering if this is this a mistake?
"999 Fine silver plated"

Later:
"One Troy Ounce, 999 Fine silver"

Is it solid or plated?

Cheers :)

Did the 1st one sell yet? If not can I purchase it. I would also be interested in number 10 and 100.

I'll grab number 0002 please :) Send me payment details via PM if possible ^^ (shipping to belgium, postal code 3500)

Where would the holo go on the bar?  I don't see an empty smooth surface that would allow the holo to stick cleanly.

ok , i will check shipping coast &  'i ll back to you via PM .
 number 0002 is  now  marked as RESERVED for you.
Kind regards.

hello bithalo  :)
No , there's no specific place on the bar for the Holo.  They are there to seal the paper wallet.
 Best regards ;)

sorry but number 0001 is already reserved. should i mark numbers 0010 & 0100 as reserved for you?

it's silver Plated

Payment has been sent :)

Shipping to Canada?

Wish it was .999 silver and not plated, the bullion says .999 silver thats no good.

Are you providing the paper wallet along with the bar?  If so, are there pictures of it?  If not, then the holos don't really serve a purpose other than giving us generic holos for us to use elsewhere.  

The .999 Fine Silver concerns me, when the bar is plated.   Items should not be stated Fine Silver, which implies that its solid, when they're plated.

I do think the design in nice and wish you well with your project.

Yes ......1 troy oz. .999 fine silver would mean solid silver..... this could be a problem for resale....

Well 1 troy oz. .999 fine silver means that it is an actual 1 troy ounce of pure silver, this for sure is a problem.  :-\

Dang, I was really interested until I realized it was built like a scam bar meant to trick people into thinking it's solid silver. 

I would definitively buy one if it was labeled as being plated on the actual bar even though it isn't solid silver.   8)

It's not truly "bullion" if it isn't solid silver (base metals don't count!) so I'd say the title of the thread is misleading as well.   ;)

I will agree with everyone that the 'one troy oz .999 fine silver' is pretty misleading.

And the numbering strikes me as a bit odd since there are 4 placeholders (which implies =>1000 bars) but there are only 1-100 bars.

Anyway, I hope all goes as planned for you.  :) I definitely like the look of the back of the bar.

yes: worldwilde shipping

The main reason why I bought one is because it's something different to add to my collection :)

They used to do this kind of stuff on eBay a lot back in the day. They called it "3 Mils .999 pure silver". They made it appear as if the mint name was "3 mils", but what they were really doing was giving you legal disclosure you were buying 3 mils of .999 silver xD

Its just clad, fake, not real.. Same with german silver its a combination of different material yes it is real .999 GERMAN silver, but not .999 silver..

Payment sent for #1 and #3 .  Please check your PM.   :)

Gladdy.

payment received , thanx !

PM replied too .

available numbers list updated . 

The bars look nice but I wanted to clarify a few things.
Firstly, how were the paper wallets generated? I'd have preferred the bar acting as a physical wallet but it still looks nice.
Secondly, why is the first number 0001. That shows a montage of 1000 and not 100. Surely it should have been 001-100?
Lastly, is number 100 still available and what is the cost of shipping to the UK?
Thanks

If number 10 and number 100  dosn't get sold ill take it.

Very misleading to have the bar state "1 Troy Ounce 999 Fine Silver"

I've seen bars like this on ebay a few years ago (of course not branded for bit coin, but sold as an ounce of silver).

for the numbers : i ask to the fabricant to minted the bars from 0 to 100 , yes they all comes with an additionnal 0  , it was an error , but that's not change the fact: there's only 100 pieces of theses bullion , not one more !   ;)
- you have to edit the paper wallet by yourself. ( using bitadress.org offline,  coinbase, papersafe ..)
- unfortunaly number 100 isn't available yet ( marked as reserved )

Kind regards;

So to be clear, this does not come with a paper wallet?  You're providing a generic hologram with which we can make our own paper wallet that is completely separate from the bar?

I collect all physical crypto wallets, so I'm trying to understand if you provide one with the bar.

I will gladly sell anyone a PaperSafe Satoshi Note to stick the generic hologram sticker on... but PaperSafe Note " keys" are not editable or printable .. I will also try to accommodate matching numbers to certificates....

( I or PaperSafe.org is by no means associated with this product)

BG4

there's indeed a confusion with this word,  you're right..  ( i'm not english native and i dont have a good english...  sorry for that)
a paper wallet should be CREATE by yourself: ( i have listed several options to do that ):   that's what i mean. and yes you have perfectly understand.
Thank you again for your interest Bithalo ;)

indeed papersafe .org is NOT associate to this project ! i quote it only cause i think papersafe is a good solution too to make a paperwallet, i never told anything else... if i quoted you that's only cause i think your prodcut is good.. please read again before writting something like that. thanx.

Thank you for clarifying. 

I think a lot has been getting lost in translation and is being taken the wrong way. I collect silver bars ....but your bars are all wrong . (1 troy oz .999 fine silver ) is a big problem in my opinion ... HOWEVER ..I like the looks of the bars  and if people want to add a PaperSafe note to match the bar number I would gladly try to accomodate . But because of the " 999 fine silver " stamped on the bars , which they are not. I CAN NOT fully endorse your product..and that was why I posted that I was not associated with your product.

It would have been better to produce your first run with solid silver..real .999 fine silver . I Would have loved to worked together with producing a real silver bar and a Silver Satoshi Note that would have went well together....

I great way to avoid this kind of confusing is to use the term "DIY" (Do it yourself), pretty much all crytpo collectors know that DIY means that private key + funding has to done by them self.

Agreed, have performed a DIY myself though, have the coins and holos still seperate.  :)

I'm not sure I would call the paper wallet a DIY, as they're not supplying a paper wallet that you put the holo and private keys on.  He's just supplying a generic holo you can get off ebay.  Its up to the buyer to make their own paper wallet and attach the generic holo to it.

Out of curiousity, are there any laws of stating something is 1 oz .999 Pure Silver when its not?  It wasn't the OP's intention to mislead, but it is risky for resale.

Got a tracking number for my purchase, really fast shipping :)

Who would pay $40 for a fake silver bar when a real 1 oz. silver bar will cost you only $18? You can get 2 real 1 oz. silver bars for that price.

reduced price due to actual bitcoin  rising : 

0.15 BTC to   0.12 BTC + shipping.

As I see it, this item isn't for people really looking to buy silver. If someone wants to buy silver as a means of storing value, then this isn't the item for him. (Just like silver Casascius coins also aren't).
There is a high demand for BTC related goods and this is seen as a collectable that people are prepared to pay a bit extra for.
As with most goods, the sale price of an item is not the same as the cost of manufacturing. Items are almost always more expensive because you have to take into account the design costs, costs of manufacturing, labour costs as well as various other factors.
An iPhone only cost $100 to manufacture, so why do people pay 5-8x of its value?

I was totally going to buy one of these until I realized (A) it's fake silver and (B) there's no recessed area for the private key. I'm disappointed now. :-\

Me

Package is taking a while to get here it seems, bloody postal services... :)

I would even be fine with a smooth area that would allow the holo to stick to.  OP...I may suggest in your next design to consider leaving an area empty on the bar so the holo can be put there.  Even better is to have it recessed, so the private key doesn't create a bump under the holo.

Sorry op. After finding out about the fake silver I have decided not to take numbers 10 and 100.
Feel free to sell them to anyone else.
Thank you.

What is the purpose of the security stickers? What kind of security do they provide? Are they intended to indicate to you if anyone has gained access to your your paper wallet?

can buy these for $3usd each :

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-pcs-lot-Customized-Made-Non-Magnetic-Brass-Silver-Plated-1oz-Bitcoin-Bars/32355938034.html

welcome

read my post guys, this guy is trying to get a premium for "limited edition" bars that are not Limited edition,

to all of the people who purchase low numbers, dont be fooled thinking you have the only one,

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-pcs-lot-Customized-Made-Non-Magnetic-Brass-Silver-Plated-1oz-Bitcoin-Bars/32355938034.html

we can get all the same numbers even 001 002 099 etc for only 3.30usd

take note fellow bitcoiners

That's funny that the supplier is selling the same design

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Physical-Litecoin-Bitcoin/434131_501638541.html

Great catch bittawm.

Sorry OP...but I'll pass on your mass-produced bars.

I do what I do son, I do it for the love, sorry OP

I can accept selling a fake bar to some extend, if it is clear that it is not pure silver.
But the head line text makes it sound like defcon23 produced this bar.
The text "original Bitcoin Bullion Bars minted from number 0001 to number 0100".
I would say that it is minted from 0001 to as many that chinese page can sell.
I would not say it is a scam, but I must say that it is very deceiving.

Will you give a refund to the people who thought you have produced this bar?

Well now it looks like my last post in this thread was pointless. If OP really did just buy a bunch of pre-made bars (which it seems especially because the bars say .999 fine silver as most fake silver bats made in China do) then it's quite shameful to pretend they're your own creation and to sell them as a limited run.
I guess we have to wait for OP to answer before we come to any conclusions.
If OP did in fact just add a number/serial to each bar, that still isn't sufficient as there will be plenty more bars produced and if that is the case I'd think that everyone who bought one should be entitled to a full refund.

The bars already come with serial numbers 1 -100.  The OP didn't appear to add anything, except a generic holo that serves no purpose.

The OP seems to have passed off the bars as his own.   I'd like to hear his side, but I think the buyers should be entitled to a refund.

looks like bittawm brought the show to a stop, donations accepted ;P

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Am I the only one who thinks the moniker "defcon" is a bit ironic here....

Pretty bad OP, pretty bad.  

Edit: Dam, buy for $330 and pass it off for $4k.....

I'm not defending OP.. But it looks like the bars are a custom made design... but the supplier decided to sell the design too... The description says customer custom design...  The design just happen to be misleading and totally wrong.....  .999 fine silver.... being the first...

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-pcs-lot-Customized-Made-Non-Magnetic-Brass-Silver-Plated-1oz-Bitcoin-Bars/32355938034.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-pcs-lot-Customized-Made-Non-Magnetic-Brass-Silver-Plated-1oz-Bitcoin-Bars/32355938034.html)

Question to OP.   Was it in the contract that the supplier can sell your design..... This is just a question ...and as a warning to any users who want to design there own Bar/round on the cheap....Basicly ....  DONT USE THIS SUPPLIER TO PRODUCE ROUNDS OR BARS!!!!!!  Because they will sell your design.

If it were me i would try to stop the bleeding.  Def con what is happening with all of this? 

The Chinese supplier sells knockoffs of solid .999 Silver brands: Lealana, Silver Species.   

But the OP appears to be selling the exact same item as the Chinese supplier and passing it off as his own original design.  Both are Plated, numbered, no hologram, same exact design.

yeah,  International WANGUO is the fabricant. they made this bar on my own design , and now they propose the same bars, with the same design , at a riduculous price, and overwise  i had to paid for this design, the lazer numbers on the bar , and finaly the shipping coast..   fu...g chinesse suppliers  >:(  they clone all what they can.. the part i wasnt know from International WANGUO , it's they are ressseller too on alie express .. where apparently they start to try selling my design.., what they're not supposed to do  :-[

yeah BG4 .. this is what i thought it  happend ., but apparently it's a mistake they made: but they didnt sell this design to anyone else.. and they will never do it. "Sorry, this item is no longer available!" is clearly stated on their website...

so the fact is: theres only 100 bars produced.., and there will never be another one !

thread locked now.

this sale keep on private now. just PM me for availables numbers. thanx  8)