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Title: All crypto leverage-, margin-, option-trading & All stock-market symbols
Post by: regexlove on July 08, 2015, 07:10:04 AM
What are all the stock market symbols representing BTC or other cryptocurrencies,
allowing leverage 1:1.x (to 1:10) and  short, option/futures trading?   ( algo , social, ....)

And what crypto exchanges and forex brokers?  - Poloniex now has margin trading, where else ?

(especially if you mention forex brokers,  
then, if you know, please tell if they offer low/variable leverage too (not just the maximum),
what are their liablities/securities and only include feedback URLs if any)

Thanks:)

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Stock Symbols:
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http://www.coindesk.com/6-new-hedge-funds-seeking-bitcoin-returns/
=>why none of them here?: https://www.google.com/finance?q=bitcoin
What are  "Bitcoin Investment Trust, bitcoin index fund" and other stockmarket symbols?
how to find them efficiently and their conditions?

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Crypto exchanges:
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 "bitfinex.com, btc.sx, btcchina.com (my favorite), 796.com and many others." (bitcoinmasterlord)

okcoin: "Futures Up to 20X leverage"  "Algo"  "Margin"
poloniex: Variable margin - Lending for interest rate  ltc, xrp, maid, xmr, str, clam ,doge, btc, dash
(btc-e: social trading/copy stratgies for a percentage)

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CFD/Forex brokers:
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AvaTrade:
Forex Metal:
Liteforex:
1broker.com:  collateral in btc,  Leverage 1-20 for most CFDs, 1-5 for bitcoin
Offline July 8 (cloudflare 522)  (edit october: i only noticed it to be offline for ~3 hours again in the meantime)

plus500: "Leverage   1:17" (btc)   "Leverage   1:10"  (ltc)  (sounding fixed)
plus500 was just bought by a poker company according to wikipedia.
High/fixed leverage business models are accused to be like casions or even of manipulation.  
but note making a statement - besides obviously "high leverage only" will sound close to gambling,
while infinitely variable below the maximum will sounds closer to reasonable.   (  1:1.01  ...  1:2.34  ... 1:x  )

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Research:  
 2013,  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195943.65 :
  "...(Plus500 and AvaTrade)..."
  "...there are 2 brokers which accept BTC deposit...
  Forex Metal
  Liteforex"
  "....You deliberately forgot to mention the best one of course. :)"   -  which may be meant?




Title: Re: All crypto leverage-, margin-, option-trading & All stock-market symbols
Post by: bitcoinmasterlord on July 08, 2015, 01:10:57 PM
I did not know that poloniex offers margin trading. I imagine this being very risky. Altcoin markets could be moved with low amounts of money so that leveraged trades are successful. I don't see this becoming a success model. Though maybe i'm wrong.

You can leverage on bitfinex.com, btc.sx, btcchina.com (my favorite), 796.com and many others.

Forex can be leveraged on 1broker.com.

I think you need to check things out for yourself since i doubt someone will do all the work for you. :)


Title: Re: All crypto leverage-, margin-, option-trading & All stock-market symbols
Post by: Argwai96 on July 08, 2015, 01:48:34 PM
Damn im not really big into margin trading but is nice too see that side of the trading market growing in the crypto economy


Title: Re: All crypto leverage-, margin-, option-trading & All stock-market symbols
Post by: Amph on July 08, 2015, 02:18:32 PM
on 1broker leverage is up to x200, going from x1, but not on any market, it is true for forex

for commodities for example, it's only x20 and for stocks only x15


Title: Re: All crypto leverage-, margin-, option-trading & All stock-market symbols
Post by: regexlove on July 09, 2015, 07:48:39 AM
Thanks!

Above I added our input so far (below my original question)  and will keep to sum up there.

Yes, i could research more/only alone but i like a more complete approach of a task than i need myself (and yet believe in trying to work together more efficiently or more complete).   So this topic could (ideally) build up until being a 'sticky' in this forum or for sure at least i can also sum it up in a handy spreadsheet for many people to appreciate/contribute later still.  (and if you wanted you would put your payment address for tips in signature?).     Sure admins may more likely than regular members be curators of deserving stickys, but why understimate the collective productive mood in Forums?  Should i leave away the "Thanks:)" to avoid any "google for me!" notion?


Title: Re: All crypto leverage-, margin-, option-trading & All stock-market symbols
Post by: KrishnaSuperStar on September 15, 2015, 07:23:57 PM
Hi, regexlove.

I know that cryptomargin.com offers leverage from 1:2 up to 1:10 for most popular crypto currencies. You can add it to your list :)