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Title: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 08, 2015, 03:28:09 PM Update: I have been told a review unit around late July will be supplied to me. Sales may start mid August. So far I have not heard back from Avalon about the mini. But I may buy 10 of them. If so I would keep 3 or 4 and sell 6 to 7 of them. I have no info on price http://www.ehash.com/ The site is down again. I hope this time it comes up with a sales price. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/901/YeE0nG.png http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/673/azSYVA.png Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 08, 2015, 03:30:08 PM So if you have an interest in them let me know. I am USA based.
I would sell BTC only. I would ship USA only. I realize it is all about the price. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: alh on July 08, 2015, 09:05:54 PM Besides price, it would be good to inquire about noise. Given it's size, and the quietness of the 4.1 miner, I would expect it to be a complete non-issue. Nevertheless it wouldn't hurt to ask.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: tripppn on July 09, 2015, 12:20:56 AM Obviously depending on price... Count me in for a couple.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 09, 2015, 04:26:27 AM Yeah I will moq and sell 17 keep 3.
still waiting for price. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: Ecnad on July 09, 2015, 05:15:16 AM Love to play with mini miners so I'd be in for one or two
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 09, 2015, 01:29:37 PM I emailed again. First email was sent on the 30th of June.
I am hoping for an answer even if it is no. No response at all is pretty hard to deal with. I had a few pm's about joint funding so I may be able to buy a large order. Maybe I will get a response. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: TheRealSteve on July 09, 2015, 01:48:52 PM You could try IRC, freenode, #avalon - though if you're not getting a response, it's entirely possible they'd rather announce this officially and globally (i.e. coordinated across their communication channels both here and the various Chinese forums) .. though a reply to that effect would be nice :)
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: hookthem on July 09, 2015, 06:20:15 PM I'm in for a few.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 10, 2015, 12:23:23 PM I got a few emails from avalon last night. I should get a review unit soon maybe late July, as for availability for sales say a 40 or 60 pack early or mid August. No word on pricing.
So xiangfu (avalon dev) told me pricing is not yet decided. As they are ramping up production. So I will check back here with any info the next few weeks. With btc getting near 300 usd. It is hard to say what pricing will be. As gear prices do tend to track BTC price. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: tripppn on July 10, 2015, 01:25:47 PM I got a few emails from avalon last night. I should get a review unit soon maybe late July, as for availability for sales say a 40 or 60 pack early or mid August. No word on pricing. So xiangfu (avalon dev) told me pricing is not yet decided. As they are ramping up production. So I will check back here with any info the next few weeks. With btc getting near 300 usd. It is hard to say what pricing will be. As gear prices do tend to track BTC price. Good news that they got back to you finally. Keep us posted. I can't wait to hear about the review unit. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 10, 2015, 08:48:22 PM I got a few emails from avalon last night. I should get a review unit soon maybe late July, as for availability for sales say a 40 or 60 pack early or mid August. No word on pricing. So xiangfu (avalon dev) told me pricing is not yet decided. As they are ramping up production. So I will check back here with any info the next few weeks. With btc getting near 300 usd. It is hard to say what pricing will be. As gear prices do tend to track BTC price. Good news that they got back to you finally. Keep us posted. I can't wait to hear about the review unit. I sent a pm to you. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: zsmith on July 10, 2015, 10:19:49 PM Depending on price, I'd buy 2 to 4 of them. That is, if I can run them off a PSU, I don't want to deal with dodgy AC adapter power bricks. Do you know how these things are powered?
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 10, 2015, 10:31:41 PM Depending on price, I'd buy 2 to 4 of them. That is, if I can run them off a PSU, I don't want to deal with dodgy AC adapter power bricks. Do you know how these things are powered? No info yet, but worst case would be pcie to dc. http://www.ebay.com/itm/6P-dc-PCI-Express-PCI-E-graphics-Video-Card-Power-Cable-to-3-port-DC-5-5-2-1mm-/311007023793? Since they pull more then 35 watts a box I think the above should work okay. I used to run gridseed blades with these adapters they were very good. Best case would be a better connection then a dc plug. I found this photo http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/538/WSAygk.jpg Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: zsmith on July 10, 2015, 11:40:52 PM I spliced something up like that to run my old R-Box. So that will do I suppose, although hopefully they have something better than a dc plug. I guess it all depends on price.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: tripppn on July 11, 2015, 05:43:48 AM I spliced something up like that to run my old R-Box. So that will do I suppose, although hopefully they have something better than a dc plug. I guess it all depends on price. Fingers crossed they ship it with at least a power brick. Even if you don't use it, its nice to have as much as possible included in the box. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 11, 2015, 02:38:15 PM I spliced something up like that to run my old R-Box. So that will do I suppose, although hopefully they have something better than a dc plug. I guess it all depends on price. Fingers crossed they ship it with at least a power brick. Even if you don't use it, its nice to have as much as possible included in the box. yeah but the brick will cost in shipping and price. I an not sure what they will do. My guess is no brick. I would attach mine to an atx psu. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: TheRealSteve on July 11, 2015, 03:52:17 PM I'd actually prefer not having them ship it with a brick. If they do, you're bound to get just about the cheapest they could source, adds to shipping costs, saddles you with a power brick that you're probably not going to use (I have 18 laying around from various products), etc. Not to mention the whole mains power plug concerns (reason for U3s not coming with that end). Same applies to USB cables. I have a whole box full of mini, micro, A and B USB cables of various reliability (some are power-only, some use too thin wires for the length and have peripherals drop whenever they need a bit of extra oomph) from products that include them when I've already got good quality ones. For me, just the miner would be ideal.
( And I'm interested, of course, but I'm in Europe, so don't add to tally :) ) Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: tripppn on July 11, 2015, 06:29:03 PM I spliced something up like that to run my old R-Box. So that will do I suppose, although hopefully they have something better than a dc plug. I guess it all depends on price. Fingers crossed they ship it with at least a power brick. Even if you don't use it, its nice to have as much as possible included in the box. yeah but the brick will cost in shipping and price. I an not sure what they will do. My guess is no brick. I would attach mine to an atx psu. Good point Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: valkir on July 12, 2015, 03:15:42 AM I for sure gonna be interested by around 10. Will probably manage bulk sell for Canada! ;)
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: notlist3d on July 12, 2015, 03:24:07 AM I think most of us are in agreement it could be a fun miner. Just all depends on the price.
Even though it is a mini, I have to be able to justify it in ROI math. So guess we will see as time goes on. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 12, 2015, 11:55:55 AM I think most of us are in agreement it could be a fun miner. Just all depends on the price. Even though it is a mini, I have to be able to justify it in ROI math. So guess we will see as time goes on. Roi always tough nut to crack. But I did not think my 4 s-3's would be earning money 1 year later. My batch 1 in my low power spot are still good to go. I thought network would be over 100 in diff by now and it is only at 51. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: notlist3d on July 12, 2015, 06:06:44 PM I think most of us are in agreement it could be a fun miner. Just all depends on the price. Even though it is a mini, I have to be able to justify it in ROI math. So guess we will see as time goes on. Roi always tough nut to crack. But I did not think my 4 s-3's would be earning money 1 year later. My batch 1 in my low power spot are still good to go. I thought network would be over 100 in diff by now and it is only at 51. I just want to see a chance of it. If I put in the price and it shows a year or something with no difficulty increase then it is a no for me personally. If I see chance of ROI yes I do normally take a risk as I enjoy mining. That is one thing about small miners in past a lot of time you pay more per hash then getting a bigger miner with more power. A lot of time smaller hashing units were hard to justify. Just a lot of parts for less chips in some cases. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: valkir on July 13, 2015, 01:42:45 AM For me, it should be a good device to initiate some friend to bitcoin.
Probably cheaper than a Antminer SX and more simple. A small device for everyone! ;D Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: edonkey on July 13, 2015, 03:40:12 AM I'm in notlist3d's camp. Interested, but it has to make sense from an ROI perspective.
Right now there just isn't enough info. But once the price and and other details are clear, hopefully it will make sense, because they look like fun. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: bigredbutton on July 13, 2015, 04:50:21 AM I'm interested. Following this thread before I decide to pull the trigger. I'll be lurking around.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 13, 2015, 11:10:27 AM I'm in notlist3d's camp. Interested, but it has to make sense from an ROI perspective. Right now there just isn't enough info. But once the price and and other details are clear, hopefully it will make sense, because they look like fun. Fun helps. Quiet will help. It could be an office miner. And no will notice it as it will be quiet small and draw under 35 watts. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: WBF1 on July 15, 2015, 12:23:19 AM I'm interested, price dependent
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 15, 2015, 01:52:11 AM Yeah I will pop back 1 time a day to update with no new info.
When I get new info I will do a few posts on that day. If you are bored with nothing to do read this thread link pages 55 to 60 yeah I know 5 pages is a lot to read but it gets pretty interesting. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559011.msg11784697#msg11784697 Does anyone remember Mike Myers Doctor Evil? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAjj_O-74eU Well Pay me 1BTC comes to mind. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: alh on July 15, 2015, 04:46:36 AM While not strictly on topic, the fraction of a thread exposes something about Bitcoin that I had never thought of before. We all get so wrapped up in "securing the network", and a "51% attack", and "too much centralization", we may have lost sight of the bigger picture.
Maybe the biggest threat is actually making peoples Bitcoin unavailable by impairing the ability to process transactions and use their "money". Even if my wallet is "safe", if I can't freely send and receive Bitcoin, that would really make Bitcoin a much less useful currency wouldn't it? Sounds kinda like when the villain in the James Bond movie 'Goldfinger' was going render the gold at Fort Knox unusable by exploding a nuclear device. The USA was almost certainly still on the "Gold Standard" at the time, so it might have made sense. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 15, 2015, 11:07:59 AM While not strictly on topic, the fraction of a thread exposes something about Bitcoin that I had never thought of before. We all get so wrapped up in "securing the network", and a "51% attack", and "too much centralization", we may have lost sight of the bigger picture. Maybe the biggest threat is actually making peoples Bitcoin unavailable by impairing the ability to process transactions and use their "money". Even if my wallet is "safe", if I can't freely send and receive Bitcoin, that would really make Bitcoin a much less useful currency wouldn't it? Sounds kinda like when the villain in the James Bond movie 'Goldfinger' was going render the gold at Fort Knox unusable by exploding a nuclear device. The USA was almost certainly still on the "Gold Standard" at the time, so it might have made sense. Yeah DDOS would force private closed pool's which surely lead to fucked up shit happening. Back to the thread no news today. This is to be expected as I was told late July for the demo/review piece. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: bigredbutton on July 17, 2015, 04:24:51 AM I am very interested. I will probably buy several, exact amount is price dependent of course. If these are at all on par with the 4.1 I'll probably get several.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 17, 2015, 11:12:11 PM No news from avalon as of tonight.
This is expected as He told me late July for the review model. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: tripppn on July 23, 2015, 10:37:00 PM Any word?
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 23, 2015, 10:41:11 PM Any word? No nothing yet. Hopefully next week as I was told late July for the review model and Mid august for sales. At least there has not been word of delays so that is one good thing. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: tripppn on July 24, 2015, 12:48:11 AM Any word? No nothing yet. Hopefully next week as I was told late July for the review model and Mid august for sales. At least there has not been word of delays so that is one good thing. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: alh on July 24, 2015, 04:59:08 AM Actually, I think the engineer's response is:
"The glass is twice as big as it needs to be!" Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: wlefever on July 25, 2015, 10:01:22 PM Will be interested in a few when they get back with prices, etc.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: Digitalmocking on July 25, 2015, 10:15:57 PM The site isn't loading for me, what's the expected hash/power draw?
Depending on price I may be down for a few myself. Edit, got the site to load. It all depends on the price. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: hacko86 on July 26, 2015, 02:50:32 PM Will be interested in a few when they get back with prices, etc. +1 here in UK Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: hacko86 on July 26, 2015, 06:51:59 PM PAY ATTENTION IN THE PM BOX GUYS!
philiprna1957<----------------------- ??? ??? ??? !!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!! Quote from: hacko86 on Today at 02:50:32 PM Quote from: wlefever on July 25, 2015, 10:01:22 PM Will be interested in a few when they get back with prices, etc. +1 here in UK https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1114143.20 Great news fellow group buyers, I have had price confirmation through for the Avalon mini. Total price per unit inc. international shipping - 0.75BTC We has a batch 1 shippment winging its way to me as we speak and numbers are limited. Total currently available : 30 units. Should you wish to place an order the payment address is : 1HkdmqxM1ZwUKW5VPwA4VWE6UpXb8cR6Sp After payment please pm me the transaction I.D and full shipping info. Thanks. Report To Admin Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: Philipma1957onvacation on July 26, 2015, 10:35:07 PM Okay I am on my vacation account . Do not give anyone a fucking dime not one piece of coin. My good account is more then ten thousand post and dates back for years. I turn my pcs off on. Vacation and do not have access to my account for security. I am going to mark this fake copy negative. With this account.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: -droid- on July 27, 2015, 05:19:14 PM Okay I am on my vacation account . Do not give anyone a fucking dime not one piece of coin. My good account is more then ten thousand post and dates back for years. I turn my pcs off on. Vacation and do not have access to my account for security. I am going to mark this fake copy negative. With this account. thats pretty smart man, hah who woulda thought Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: Philipma1957onvacation on July 27, 2015, 11:38:16 PM Every time I run a group buy some a-hole try's to copy my philipma1957 account.
I get back on Tuesday I will mark him with my good account. So do not pay anyone for Avalon mini gear. Wait for my review with my legend account. Thanks to all reading this thread. Philipma1957 Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 28, 2015, 10:12:49 PM back from vacation
here is the fake copy's profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=538286 lite his shit up. back to this thread i have yet to check all my emails as i just got home. i will post info on any that i got. [hope i got one or two] i think i will do a trust to my vacation account to validate it. in case this happens again. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: valkir on July 29, 2015, 12:20:10 PM Done! Just let me know which one is your vacation account. I will also do a trust on it. ;)
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 29, 2015, 04:04:29 PM Done! Just let me know which one is your vacation account. I will also do a trust on it. ;) this is mehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=537107 I trusted it Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: alh on July 29, 2015, 04:31:26 PM So there were two parts to impersonating Phillip here:
1) Choose an Id that LOOKS very similar as in philipRna1957, rather than the version with "m". 2) Select an Avatar that is text "Legendary", rather than an actual picture. Just trying to understand what happened here......... Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 29, 2015, 07:42:56 PM So there were two parts to impersonating Phillip here: 1) Choose an Id that LOOKS very similar as in philipRna1957, rather than the version with "m". 2) Select an Avatar that is text "Legendary", rather than an actual picture. Just trying to understand what happened here......... yes and they hope for a tired person sending off coin without really looking. best way to protect one against this is look at profiles. mine goes back to 2012 and I have 10,000 plus posts. my other copycat did philLipma1957 first copycat phillipma1957 ------------------- used 2 ll's https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=443374 second copy cat philiprna1957 ------------------ used rna https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=538286 both used Legendary in the signature boxes so could be same person. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: sobe-it on July 29, 2015, 11:34:09 PM negged both
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: Philipma1957onvacation on July 30, 2015, 12:08:27 AM Thanks I will keep an eye out for copies..
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 30, 2015, 01:05:14 PM I will try contacting avalon today as it is the end of July. I hope to know something by the end of today.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on July 31, 2015, 04:01:17 PM Sent an email this morning and I am awaiting a reply.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: alh on August 06, 2015, 05:49:46 AM Doesn't sound like they are in any rush to actually sell anything, does it?
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on August 06, 2015, 09:43:31 PM Doesn't sound like they are in any rush to actually sell anything, does it? yeah no reply at all to my emails. I think most chinese asic builder are simply following my advice from last summer which was if you build and mine: then limit growth of the network . Don't sell much gear. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: valkir on August 06, 2015, 11:45:45 PM Last time I spoke with Xiangfu he told me he was building them slowly. But I guess they are using it.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on August 07, 2015, 12:16:27 AM Last time I spoke with Xiangfu he told me he was building them slowly. But I guess they are using it. Matches what he told me. They had 1 batch unit and were testing it. next would be a 50-100 piece run and they would send me a test unit. I should have been contacted late July. Nothing yet. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: cryptomatt on August 08, 2015, 01:17:29 PM What exactly is the point of buying this? The power is so low, it's pointless.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on August 08, 2015, 01:23:13 PM What exactly is the point of buying this? The power is so low, it's pointless. your understanding of hobby mining is lacking. Does not matter anyway since I am getting no info from the builder and he is about 10 days past promised sample date. I don't want to be insulting when I say you don't understand hobby mining just truthful as I see it. A longer explanation would be this. This item would cost under 3 dollars a month to run. It would be quiet. It would not be hot. You can point it at a solo pool like ck's and have a chance at winning an entire block at a very low cost in power. It is not about turning a profit it is about a hobby item. If you are in college it would run for free in a dorm. May never hit a block but cost to run it would be zero. Some would say power theft but I would say no just a different form of entertainment at a one unit level I would not feel guilty saying do it in your dorm. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: -droid- on August 08, 2015, 03:31:28 PM Yeah or to add, great little device to run at the office since power draw is so low, good solo lotto ticket
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on August 08, 2015, 05:10:12 PM Yeah or to add, great little device to run at the office since power draw is so low, good solo lotto ticket yeah if some want to run a radio in the office and are allowed some may want to run this device instead. At the lower watt setting of 30gh and 12 watts no boss will notice or care. only 9 kwatts a month Even the high watt settings of 78 gh and 33 watts so what. only 24 kwatts a month Now put in an full sized avalon 4.1 at 900gh and 480 watts even though it is quiet the boss may not like you using 360 kwatts a month Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: cryptomatt on August 09, 2015, 03:15:08 PM Great answer, was honestly just wondering the rationale.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on August 09, 2015, 04:33:58 PM Great answer, was honestly just wondering the rationale. Fair enough . Sometimes the net is hard to answer questions well. I appreciate the reply back. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: valkir on August 11, 2015, 12:53:54 PM No update from xiangfu. Any on your side philipma?
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on August 11, 2015, 01:20:55 PM No update from xiangfu. Any on your side philipma? I will shoot him another email but so far no contact for weeks. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: TheRealSteve on August 11, 2015, 05:00:44 PM woohey, photos (not much to see though) - from cybtc / lvl ( same username on this forum if you want to poke at him :) )
Quote from: http://www.weibo.com/5075669092/CvndV9izF? Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on August 11, 2015, 05:32:39 PM they look like they use a dc plug so this type may work:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCIe-to-3-12V-DC-Barrel-Plug-Adapter-for-Bitmain-Antminer-U3-5-5X2-5-mm-/201390721947?hash=item2ee3d28b9b http://www.ebay.com/itm/RockMiner-R-Box-Power-Cable-4-PK-12v-PCI-E-to-3x-5-5mm-x-2-5mm-DC-barrel-plugs-/252048044512?hash=item3aaf3bf1e0 woohey, photos (not much to see though) - from cybtc / lvl ( same username on this forum if you want to poke at him :) ) Quote from: http://www.weibo.com/5075669092/CvndV9izF? Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: Rabinovitch on August 12, 2015, 08:29:34 AM The price. We need to know it. 8)
I have been told a review unit around late July will be supplied to me. I guess there was not any units shipped to you?Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on August 12, 2015, 12:51:06 PM The price. We need to know it. 8) I have been told a review unit around late July will be supplied to me. I guess there was not any units shipped to you?No I have not been contacted in weeks. No replies to my followup emails. So this is pretty much dead in the water for now. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: Rabinovitch on August 13, 2015, 04:56:28 AM No I have not been contacted in weeks. No replies to my followup emails. So this is pretty much dead in the water for now. Today's letter: Quote Right now we don't have any Avalon Minis in stock. If you need a large amount of Minis, we can produce these for you in 3 weeks. As for the price, price is determined on the base of quantity. The price for each unit itself (without shipping and any other expenses) will be about $240 USD. My answer to such an inconceivable price: Quote No way. Last price for Bitmain's S5 is 352 USD. If your Avalon4 Mini can only hash at 78 Gh, the price for it should be at least 14,8 times lower than 352 USD, i.e. 24 USD. All right - let it be 30 USD just because it's a new equipment and it's a bit more efficient than S5. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: TheRealSteve on August 13, 2015, 08:11:01 AM They wouldn't be able to price it at $24 any more than GekkoScience Compac could be put on the market for $5 without incurring major losses. Economics of pricing don't work that way, even if our wallets would love for that to be the case :)
In the mean time, they're working on the website - they just added some official photos; http://ehash.com/product/avalon4-mini/ Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: Rabinovitch on August 13, 2015, 10:02:36 AM I understand it, but as a private buyer I can't imagine why should I ever buy a 78 Gh machine for 240 (+50 or 60 USD for shipping). It's a madness. I can buy S3 for that sum, and it will be 5-6 times faster.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: Tigggger on August 13, 2015, 10:06:30 AM The price for each unit itself (without shipping and any other expenses) will be about $240 USD. My answer to such an inconceivable price: That's hardly a suprise, every avalon retail product (since the first) has been months behind the competition in terms of effeciency, and priced way above what anyone else is charging. Apart from an odd machine for those that like to have a new toy, I expect the only real sales they have are from volume buyers in china who must get a better deal. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: wlefever on August 13, 2015, 01:44:08 PM $240 isn't just a bad price it is a rip off. There is no explanation for that price when the big brother 4.1 was only roughly twice as much yet well over 10 times more powerful. What. The. Actual. F.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: alh on August 13, 2015, 05:01:26 PM The pricing here is roughly on parity with 8-9 Compac USB miners and a hub. This would no doubt be easier to administer, but the $240 price doesn't help that. Compared to a "New Rbox" it's lower power draw, and a lower hashrtae, for roughly twice the price of the R-box.
I am sure I'll pass. Thanks for checking Phillip. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on August 14, 2015, 04:09:50 AM No I have not been contacted in weeks. No replies to my followup emails. So this is pretty much dead in the water for now. Today's letter: Quote Right now we don't have any Avalon Minis in stock. If you need a large amount of Minis, we can produce these for you in 3 weeks. As for the price, price is determined on the base of quantity. The price for each unit itself (without shipping and any other expenses) will be about $240 USD. My answer to such an inconceivable price: Quote No way. Last price for Bitmain's S5 is 352 USD. If your Avalon4 Mini can only hash at 78 Gh, the price for it should be at least 14,8 times lower than 352 USD, i.e. 24 USD. All right - let it be 30 USD just because it's a new equipment and it's a bit more efficient than S5. Did you get a letter from Avalon? Or is this post just a joke? Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: alh on August 14, 2015, 04:53:54 AM Looks like ITOP is going to carry this. See:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1152545.0 No mention of price in that thread (yet). Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: QuintLeo on August 14, 2015, 10:09:58 AM $240 is insane.
$100 would be way too high. $40 might be almost reasonable - at least they'd have a chance at ROI before the halving next summer makes them worthless. Way too high for an old-gen product. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on August 14, 2015, 06:23:02 PM $240 is insane. $100 would be way too high. $40 might be almost reasonable - at least they'd have a chance at ROI before the halving next summer makes them worthless. Way too high for an old-gen product. well it is the current gen chip. it does .4 watts no one sells better then .4 watts except sidehack usb stick. Now the funny Russian friend above has no idea of price. (he was joking about that letter) my guess is 60 usd a unit. I must be out of the loop as a guy buy seller since I have not been contacted and iTop says he is selling. NOW iTop wants 3375 for a shipped s-5+ and bitmaintech wants 2473 for the s-5+ shipped. So iTop may want a shit ton of mark up if he sells them. but maybe I am wrong. I am sorry that I was not contacted to try to run a group since early July, but I know avalon must have their reasons for using iTop. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: Rabinovitch on August 14, 2015, 06:25:28 PM Did you get a letter from Avalon? Or is this post just a joke? Am I looking like a joker? http://snag.gy/T0DZN.jpg p.s. Quote We’re going to release our new generation of miners, Avalon 6, towards the end of this year. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: wlefever on August 14, 2015, 06:41:56 PM Now the Avalon 6 release later this year interests me! 2+ Th/s 750 watts at the wall and ultra silent?? I can only hope.
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: alh on August 14, 2015, 08:16:54 PM Now the Avalon 6 release later this year interests me! 2+ Th/s 750 watts at the wall and ultra silent?? I can only hope. I wouldn't hold my breath. They haven't provided a price for such a device. How would $1250 grab you? I didn't think so....... :) Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on August 14, 2015, 09:17:03 PM Yes since you put in 240 usd as a price and the letter does not mention any price. But to be fair you did get a letter which was better then me as I got no reply at all.
I told them I wanted to do a group buy with 30, 50, 100 as various points to start from. I think it may be more vaporware . I will hope for the version 6 just in time for Christmas. ::) Did you get a letter from Avalon? Or is this post just a joke? Am I looking like a joker? http://snag.gy/T0DZN.jpg p.s. Quote We’re going to release our new generation of miners, Avalon 6, towards the end of this year. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: Rabinovitch on August 15, 2015, 03:59:20 AM Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on August 15, 2015, 03:09:24 PM Thanks and at those prices I may as well close this thread. Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: valkir on August 18, 2015, 07:29:58 PM 235 us ?? This is insane! Way to expensive. :-[
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: -droid- on August 18, 2015, 09:36:08 PM yeah lock this thread up lol, these prices are a pipe dream.. they cant be serious.. who would realistically order at these prices?
Title: Re: I am judging interest in a group buy of the Avalon mini Post by: philipma1957 on August 19, 2015, 04:24:10 AM yeah lock this thread up lol, these prices are a pipe dream.. they cant be serious.. who would realistically order at these prices? Yeah fuck it! I locked it. |
