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Title: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: bitpump on July 09, 2015, 04:47:07 AM
Open wallet found with 0.09252 BTC ?

https://blockchain.info/address/16ga2uqnF1NqpAuQeeg7sTCAdtDUwDyJav

private key: 5JXvHQfGHxUffo8BLRG1RBecRCZ2Jygtx5cNSiZoyk5Zcmhsdso

when you try to move the BTC, here is error message ;)

Insufficient Funds
This transaction cannot be sent because there are insufficent funds available. This may be due to additional miners fees or unconfirmed transactions.
The transaction can either be cancelled. Or the amount to send can be adjusted to match the maximum amount available to send.


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: aakashsangwan on July 09, 2015, 05:02:14 AM
So what is your motto behind the post???

BTW how did you find an open wallet with its private key???


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: gogxmagog on July 09, 2015, 05:33:24 AM
Yes, where/how did you find that?
i could see a dev working with something like that, but they wouldn't announce it in here?


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: tyrexs on July 09, 2015, 05:35:26 AM
thats your wallet, all transaction is 0.00001 BTC and is a small transaction or $0.00
maybe thats why you got error message, hope you take out that balance  ;)


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: albert11 on July 09, 2015, 05:40:41 AM
I'm confused...the private key matches with public key so how come there is still money in this wallet and why make it public instead of taking the funds?

Also why does it say "password" on the transaction?


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: Quickseller on July 09, 2015, 05:41:02 AM
Open wallet found with 0.09252 BTC ?

https://blockchain.info/address/16ga2uqnF1NqpAuQeeg7sTCAdtDUwDyJav

private key: 5JXvHQfGHxUffo8BLRG1RBecRCZ2Jygtx5cNSiZoyk5Zcmhsdso

when you try to move the BTC, here is error message ;)

Insufficient Funds
This transaction cannot be sent because there are insufficent funds available. This may be due to additional miners fees or unconfirmed transactions.
The transaction can either be cancelled. Or the amount to send can be adjusted to match the maximum amount available to send.

You aren't an alt of one of the people behind the spam transactions on the blockchain are you? There have been a number of threads, both on here and on reddit of people posting the private keys of addresses with large amounts of bitcoin that is unspent, but whose addresses have very small inputs making it very difficult to ever spend


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: albert11 on July 09, 2015, 05:45:26 AM
Open wallet found with 0.09252 BTC ?

https://blockchain.info/address/16ga2uqnF1NqpAuQeeg7sTCAdtDUwDyJav

private key: 5JXvHQfGHxUffo8BLRG1RBecRCZ2Jygtx5cNSiZoyk5Zcmhsdso

when you try to move the BTC, here is error message ;)

Insufficient Funds
This transaction cannot be sent because there are insufficent funds available. This may be due to additional miners fees or unconfirmed transactions.
The transaction can either be cancelled. Or the amount to send can be adjusted to match the maximum amount available to send.

You aren't an alt of one of the people behind the spam transactions on the blockchain are you? There have been a number of threads, both on here and on reddit of people posting the private keys of addresses with large amounts of bitcoin that is unspent, but whose addresses have very small inputs making it very difficult to ever spend

could you explain to me how does small inputs matters? I always thought you could spend the money in a wallet if you have private key regardless of anything

thanks


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: Quickseller on July 09, 2015, 06:25:16 AM
Open wallet found with 0.09252 BTC ?

https://blockchain.info/address/16ga2uqnF1NqpAuQeeg7sTCAdtDUwDyJav

private key: 5JXvHQfGHxUffo8BLRG1RBecRCZ2Jygtx5cNSiZoyk5Zcmhsdso

when you try to move the BTC, here is error message ;)

Insufficient Funds
This transaction cannot be sent because there are insufficent funds available. This may be due to additional miners fees or unconfirmed transactions.
The transaction can either be cancelled. Or the amount to send can be adjusted to match the maximum amount available to send.

You aren't an alt of one of the people behind the spam transactions on the blockchain are you? There have been a number of threads, both on here and on reddit of people posting the private keys of addresses with large amounts of bitcoin that is unspent, but whose addresses have very small inputs making it very difficult to ever spend

could you explain to me how does small inputs matters? I always thought you could spend the money in a wallet if you have private key regardless of anything

thanks
I was referring to size in terms of BTC.

Generally speaking, each input is the same size in terms of how many bites it would take to spend in a transaction, and as a result, each input will cost roughly the same to spend in terms of recommended transaction fees. When you have a large number of inputs that are very small (in terms of BTC size) then such inputs will often cost more in (recommended) tx fees then the value of the input themselves.

By making the private keys of these addresses with large numbers of very small inputs public, whoever is behind the spam attack is likely attempting to get people to attempt to spend the funds "in" the addresses, causing additional traffic in the network.

The ultimate solution is obviously to quickly increase the block size in order to alleviate the massive size of the mempool and to make such attacks uneconomical.


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: LightningFury on July 09, 2015, 06:37:50 AM
Unconfirmed Transactions (41454 pending)  lol really?

Blockchain says: Maximum concurrent requests for this endpoint reached. Please try again shortly. for this address  :o


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: odolvlobo on July 09, 2015, 06:58:23 AM
Open wallet found with 0.09252 BTC ?
https://blockchain.info/address/16ga2uqnF1NqpAuQeeg7sTCAdtDUwDyJav
private key: 5JXvHQfGHxUffo8BLRG1RBecRCZ2Jygtx5cNSiZoyk5Zcmhsdso
when you try to move the BTC, here is error message ;)

Insufficient Funds
This transaction cannot be sent because there are insufficent funds available. This may be due to additional miners fees or unconfirmed transactions.
The transaction can either be cancelled. Or the amount to send can be adjusted to match the maximum amount available to send.

The bitcoins can't be sent because the cost of sending them is more than their value.

I'm confused...the private key matches with public key so how come there is still money in this wallet and why make it public instead of taking the funds?
Also why does it say "password" on the transaction?

This is a brain wallet with the password "password". If you know the private key, you can label the address on the site. Somebody labeled it "password".


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: albert11 on July 09, 2015, 07:13:57 AM
Open wallet found with 0.09252 BTC ?
https://blockchain.info/address/16ga2uqnF1NqpAuQeeg7sTCAdtDUwDyJav
private key: 5JXvHQfGHxUffo8BLRG1RBecRCZ2Jygtx5cNSiZoyk5Zcmhsdso
when you try to move the BTC, here is error message ;)

Insufficient Funds
This transaction cannot be sent because there are insufficent funds available. This may be due to additional miners fees or unconfirmed transactions.
The transaction can either be cancelled. Or the amount to send can be adjusted to match the maximum amount available to send.

The bitcoins can't be sent because the cost of sending them is more than their value.



There is more than 0.1 BTC in the wallet, it doesn't cost more than that to send them right?

If you look at transaction history you can see that some coins were spent at some point

Total Received   0.24753891 BTC   

Final Balance   0.11123 BTC


or what you are saying is that at least 1 transactions in this BTC address should have been more than average fee (0.0001) is that correct?


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: EternalWingsofGod on July 09, 2015, 07:25:17 AM
It is related to coin age
The coins are too new to offset the value of sending them due to the small recieving increments

Transaction priority is calculated as a value-weighted sum of input age, divided by transaction size in bytes:
priority = sum(input_value_in_base_units * input_age)/size_in_bytes

Transactions need to have a priority above 57,600,000 to avoid the enforced limit (as of client version 0.3.21). This threshold is written in the code as COIN * 144 / 250, suggesting that the threshold represents a one day old, 1 btc coin (144 is the expected number of blocks per day) and a transaction size of 250 bytes.

So, for example, a transaction that has 2 inputs, one of 5 btc with 10 confirmations, and one of 2 btc with 3 confirmations, and has a size of 500bytes, will have a priority of
(500000000 * 10 + 200000000 * 3) / 500 = 11,200,000


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: trace666 on July 09, 2015, 07:28:20 AM
Open wallet found with 0.09252 BTC ?
https://blockchain.info/address/16ga2uqnF1NqpAuQeeg7sTCAdtDUwDyJav
private key: 5JXvHQfGHxUffo8BLRG1RBecRCZ2Jygtx5cNSiZoyk5Zcmhsdso
when you try to move the BTC, here is error message ;)

Insufficient Funds
This transaction cannot be sent because there are insufficent funds available. This may be due to additional miners fees or unconfirmed transactions.
The transaction can either be cancelled. Or the amount to send can be adjusted to match the maximum amount available to send.

The bitcoins can't be sent because the cost of sending them is more than their value.



There is more than 0.1 BTC in the wallet, it doesn't cost more than that to send them right?

If you look at transaction history you can see that some coins were spent at some point

Total Received   0.24753891 BTC   

Final Balance   0.11123 BTC


or what you are saying is that at least 1 transactions in this BTC address should have been more than average fee (0.0001) is that correct?

The "average fee" you are quoting is not enough for a transaction from this address. It is enough for your "average" address, but there are transactions that require far higher than average transaction cost.
See https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees) for a description of how the transaction fee depends on the transaction size (0.1 mBTC (0.0001 BTC) per thousand bytes).


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: Herbert2020 on July 09, 2015, 07:33:57 AM
So what is your motto behind the post???

BTW how did you find an open wallet with its private key???

i don't know if OP did this intentionally but
i have seen these kinds of post for two days now.
they are spreading the private keys to the addresses that are in the attack to the network and hoping other people will contribute to the attack by trying to spend the coins.

please remove the private key from your post.


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: gogxmagog on July 09, 2015, 08:42:54 AM
Why are they doing that though? If intentional, what would be the motive? Just to disrupt or are they trying to force some argument around the block limit? Or are they just trying to exploit the stresses? I don't get it. I've been seeing same type posts as well, and all the conversation around it is confusing.

whats going on?


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: Kiritsugu on July 09, 2015, 11:43:28 AM
Why are they doing that though? If intentional, what would be the motive? Just to disrupt or are they trying to force some argument around the block limit? Or are they just trying to exploit the stresses? I don't get it. I've been seeing same type posts as well, and all the conversation around it is confusing.

whats going on?
Interestingly enough, I've found about 8 of these Private Keys similarly to what OP said.  Most of them have .1btc+ as balance with shittons of inputs making the btc impossible to spend.  Wtf is going on?


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: BTCBinary on July 09, 2015, 12:08:25 PM
Is this happening because the Network is going Nuts! ???


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: Blawpaw on July 09, 2015, 12:09:21 PM
Wow... Thats crazy weird. How come is this possible? Does anybody knows what's happening? is there a rational explanation for this?
Wouldn't it have something to do with the double spending Bug?


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: Pursuer on July 09, 2015, 01:02:26 PM
what the hell!!
why are you sharing this here. is this one the addresses that was associated with the stress test.
you guys are messing with a lot of users now.


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: Kiritsugu on July 09, 2015, 01:15:47 PM
what the hell!!
why are you sharing this here. is this one the addresses that was associated with the stress test.
you guys are messing with a lot of users now.
We're not 'messing' with anyone, we're trying to figure out what's going on.  It's also not the only address.  I have ~7 more I found that are all similar.


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: scox on July 09, 2015, 01:20:52 PM
Is this happening because the Network is going Nuts! ???


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: ThEmporium on July 09, 2015, 01:27:00 PM
By looking at the Blockchain.info, it shows that it has finished 8 confirmations, so dude what's going on and why we are discussing here about the finished transactions and you have wasted our valuable time.


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: lorylore on July 09, 2015, 01:33:48 PM
I cant see anything at the moment: Maximum concurrent requests for this endpoint reached. Please try again shortly.


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: bitpump on July 09, 2015, 04:37:37 PM
So what is your motto behind the post???

BTW how did you find an open wallet with its private key???

how I found: after reading: http://www.wired.com/2015/07/brainflayer-password-cracker-steals-bitcoins-brain/
I tried to crack a brain wallet by using password = "password" :)

motto: motivation behind post is that I know that a lot of people are continiously trying to crack brainwallets,
so why was this wallet not taken yet .. ?!


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: bitpump on July 09, 2015, 04:39:45 PM
balance now seems almost $30 :)

https://i.imgur.com/PMlp01R.png


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: bitpump on July 09, 2015, 04:42:08 PM
I'm confused...the private key matches with public key so how come there is still money in this wallet and why make it public instead of taking the funds?

hi, when I noticed, I did try to take the funds and did not succeed :)

now it says:
"Warning! this bitcoin address contains transactions which may be double spends. You should be extremely careful when trusting any transactions to or from this address."

this message was NOT present when posting this message


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: bitpump on July 09, 2015, 04:43:55 PM
i don't know if OP did this intentionally but
i have seen these kinds of post for two days now.
they are spreading the private keys to the addresses that are in the attack to the network and hoping other people will contribute to the attack by trying to spend the coins.
please remove the private key from your post.

"i don't know if OP did this intentionally but"  -> NO, I just tried to crack a brainwallet.  Thanks for the feedback !!


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: bitpump on July 09, 2015, 04:45:09 PM
We're not 'messing' with anyone, we're trying to figure out what's going on.  It's also not the only address.  I have ~7 more I found that are all similar.

Exactly. Thank you!


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: Kiritsugu on July 09, 2015, 07:35:30 PM
Holy wtf.  I just checked up on the addy's for the PKs I know, and not only have the balances been drained, but there are HUNDREDS of txs happening that claim they are 0btc txs, and the address they were sent to can't be decoded?

Wtf???


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: shorena on July 09, 2015, 07:42:47 PM
Holy wtf.  I just checked up on the addy's for the PKs I know, and not only have the balances been drained, but there are HUNDREDS of txs happening that claim they are 0btc txs, and the address they were sent to can't be decoded?

Wtf???

Someone is spending the inputs as fees, essentially donating the spam to the miners that remove it from the UTXO set.


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: achow101 on July 10, 2015, 05:16:45 PM
You better don't use this address anymore

Just tried import that private key & my desktop wallet suddenly stopped working :(
Don't try to import that private key on slow devices if you don't want your devices stopped working, also there are too many unconfirmed transaction.
I managed to import it and another address into my wallet and it didn't crash. When I try to send a transaction with all of it though, my wallet says that the minimum fee is 2.24853362 BTC, way more than the amount of BTC in the addresses (0.25...)


Title: Re: Open wallet with 0.09252 BTC ?
Post by: odolvlobo on July 10, 2015, 05:42:25 PM
You better don't use this address anymore

Just tried import that private key & my desktop wallet suddenly stopped working :(
Don't try to import that private key on slow devices if you don't want your devices stopped working, also there are too many unconfirmed transaction.

The address has thousands of transactions and inputs that your SPV client needs to download and process. It takes a long time for some clients.