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Title: GloFo tests 7nm. We prolly shall see miners on this node next to next year.
Post by: goxed on July 09, 2015, 11:30:38 AM
It's no longer exclusively silicon transistors ay 7nm, its a Silicon Germanium channel x-istor..
http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/9/8919091/ibm-7nm-transistor-processor
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/07/ibm-unveils-industrys-first-7nm-chip-moving-beyond-silicon/


Title: Re: GloFo tests 7nm. We prolly shall see miners on this node next year.
Post by: philipma1957 on July 09, 2015, 11:47:42 AM
It's no longer exclusively silicon transistors ay 7nm, its a Silicon Germanium x-istor..
http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/9/8919091/ibm-7nm-transistor-processor

maybe 2018 not 2016, but  If someone were to go right to this skipping over all the in between  sizes  we would get close to a .05 watt per gh chip


Title: Re: GloFo tests 7nm. We prolly shall see miners on this node next year.
Post by: sidehack on July 09, 2015, 12:39:52 PM
Have they finished solving the problems of working with Germanium usually costing something like two orders of magnitude more than silicon?


Title: Re: GloFo tests 7nm. We prolly shall see miners on this node next year.
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on July 09, 2015, 04:44:32 PM
Just because IBM demonstrated it is possible to achieve a 7nm process doesn't mean it'll be here next year by any stretch of the imagination.  I'd guess 2020 before 7nm is produced in a consumer chip.  They've got to go through 10nm first.


Title: Re: GloFo tests 7nm. We prolly shall see miners on this node next year.
Post by: hmblm1245 on July 13, 2015, 03:03:08 AM
Still that is pretty cool. Theory become reality is always interesting to witness.


Title: Re: GloFo tests 7nm. We prolly shall see miners on this node next year.
Post by: Grix on July 14, 2015, 04:53:26 PM
And GPUs are still 28nm. What a joke


Title: Re: GloFo tests 7nm. We prolly shall see miners on this node next year.
Post by: Amph on July 15, 2015, 07:06:05 AM
And GPUs are still 28nm. What a joke

well gaming industry don't need to push the processing so fast because many user are not running 10 x vga like in mining, and wasting energy for their instamining or fastmining or whatever

so the gain in consumption would not be so distinguished, but i believe than can already do gpu at a lower productive processing if they desire to do it, especially amd..



Title: Re: GloFo tests 7nm. We prolly shall see miners on this node next to next year.
Post by: Yan-Aquifer on July 15, 2015, 10:09:21 PM
7Nm is going to be used in multi billion dollar markets such as cellular phones.  Until BTC goes up in price the entire mining market is only $400M right now for everyone.  Even if you were 25% of the global it's barely going cover the investment of 16Nm right now.  Most large companies make a number of different iterations of a desired processor before releasing the final product.  There are a lot of hidden costs in R&D and development that would not make 7Nm viable for some time without an increase in BTC price.


Regards,
yan


Title: Re: GloFo tests 7nm. We prolly shall see miners on this node next year.
Post by: goxed on July 16, 2015, 12:49:03 AM
And GPUs are still 28nm. What a joke
That's because of TSMCs failed FinFet attempts.
https://www.google.ch/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QFjAAahUKEwjQxNb1tt7GAhXMwBQKHTJVCzM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwccftech.com%2Ftsmcs-16nm-finfet-faces-delays-qualcomm-jumps-ship-samsung%2F&ei=aP-mVdDwE8yBU7KqrZgD&usg=AFQjCNGis4NvDkKRlwtEy84_s4qK9XfsVw&sig2=giLl0WCFbk70YgkPyQiXTg&bvm=bv.97949915,d.bGQ



Title: Re: GloFo tests 7nm. We prolly shall see miners on this node next to next year.
Post by: TheRealSteve on July 16, 2015, 01:35:43 AM
I think goxed's broken image was supposed to be a link, so for the curious:
http://wccftech.com/tsmcs-16nm-finfet-faces-delays-qualcomm-jumps-ship-samsung/


Title: Re: GloFo tests 7nm. We prolly shall see miners on this node next to next year.
Post by: goxed on July 16, 2015, 06:47:44 PM
I think goxed's broken image was supposed to be a link, so for the curious:
http://wccftech.com/tsmcs-16nm-finfet-faces-delays-qualcomm-jumps-ship-samsung/
Thanks!

Intel's having problems scaling down to 10nm.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33549916