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Title: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: nonbody on July 09, 2015, 01:09:06 PM
so i have sent 2 payments both of which havent even gotten TAX ids, who is slowing down the network and why? ??? :'(


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: goosoodude on July 09, 2015, 07:52:06 PM
Why do you ask when you already have the answer in the topic? It's a stresstest, done by those that want to show that we need bigger max block limits on bitcoin blockchain.


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: HerbPean on July 09, 2015, 07:59:43 PM
so i have sent 2 payments both of which havent even gotten TAX ids, who is slowing down the network and why? ??? :'(

Give more fees to your transaction next time


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: nonbody on July 09, 2015, 08:41:44 PM
Why do you ask when you already have the answer in the topic? It's a stresstest, done by those that want to show that we need bigger max block limits on bitcoin blockchain.

do we have any idea who these people are, are they whale or miners?


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: alh on July 09, 2015, 10:32:07 PM
Why do you ask when you already have the answer in the topic? It's a stresstest, done by those that want to show that we need bigger max block limits on bitcoin blockchain.

do we have any idea who these people are, are they whale or miners?

I think they are actually researchers. Each transaction really only has a small amount of BTC, and then they ship it back to the originating wallet (or something very similar). Nobody is "spending" or "exchange" Bitcoin, it's essentially a "Wallet to Wallet" test.


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: sidehack on July 09, 2015, 10:51:19 PM
Is the test net no longer good enough for stuff like that?


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: Amph on July 10, 2015, 07:18:33 AM
Why do you ask when you already have the answer in the topic? It's a stresstest, done by those that want to show that we need bigger max block limits on bitcoin blockchain.

do we have any idea who these people are, are they whale or miners?

I think they are actually researchers. Each transaction really only has a small amount of BTC, and then they ship it back to the originating wallet (or something very similar). Nobody is "spending" or "exchange" Bitcoin, it's essentially a "Wallet to Wallet" test.

there are some spammers, attackers among them for sure, because the test should've ended for now, we get it, bitcoin can't handle the current amount of transaction

but someone is still perpetuating it, this mean that he is not doing it for testing, but he want to convince people to change to xt or whatever other reason


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: Xialla on July 10, 2015, 07:27:20 AM
1* there are some stress tests and and ongoing network attacks

2* chinese pools not confirming transactions


and yes, I'm also quite pissed by all this and still hope, that developers will somehow react, because last events just ruining bitcoin..


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: Hexcoin on July 10, 2015, 11:07:07 AM
Why do you ask when you already have the answer in the topic? It's a stresstest, done by those that want to show that we need bigger max block limits on bitcoin blockchain.

do we have any idea who these people are, are they whale or miners?

read more infos here about the stress test. the test should have done by now, im not sure on who/what still conducting this transaction spam in the network

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1098263.0


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: ranochigo on July 10, 2015, 03:18:28 PM
Is the test net no longer good enough for stuff like that?
Testnet doesn't really provide an accurate real life example as there isn't much hashrate and transactions. Many miners have modified their rules to try to include more non spam transactions. This is a larger scale one as the unconfirmed transaction has constantly been at 40K+ at most of the time. Last stress test I saw, the spam didn't last for days and wasn't above 20k+. Unfortunately, the only way to get fast confirmation is to add higher fees as of now.


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: lorylore on July 10, 2015, 03:28:26 PM
Now this stress test is getting me angry, people are getting in trouble that the transactions are not getting confirmed.


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: nonbody on July 10, 2015, 03:32:59 PM
Now this stress test is getting me angry, people are getting in trouble that the transactions are not getting confirmed.
how so? with loan repayments ?


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: ranochigo on July 10, 2015, 03:52:47 PM
Now this stress test is getting me angry, people are getting in trouble that the transactions are not getting confirmed.
how so? with loan repayments ?
Not really, any rational borrower would acknowledge that the confirmation would take slightly more time. However, in exchanges, deposits requires 3+ confirmations to appear in account. The transaction must first gain a confirmation which can be difficult under 0.0002BTC/kb of fee.


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on July 10, 2015, 08:31:22 PM
I'm having trouble syncing my wallet today. Has happened maybe a handful of times over the years. Doesn't seem to want to go past 37 hours remaining atm. I'm not overly panicking. Is this a result of the stress test?


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: hexafraction on July 10, 2015, 08:34:28 PM
so i have sent 2 payments both of which havent even gotten TAX ids, who is slowing down the network and why? ??? :'(

A transaction doesn't need to go through to get a txid, as it's just a cryptographic hash.


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: nonbody on July 10, 2015, 09:20:27 PM
my 2 transactions yesterday took 8 hours to get a tx id :)


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: hexafraction on July 10, 2015, 09:37:22 PM
my 2 transactions yesterday took 8 hours to get a tx id :)

Who sent the transactions? A web service? Or a wallet? If there's no txid, it means the party responsible for sending the transaction is backlogged, not the Bitcoin network.


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: Bitdonator on July 13, 2015, 09:19:33 AM
Peoples says that bitcoin network pass this stres test, but I think this test is successful.
Network is messed more than 10 days, many uncon. transaction...


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: ranochigo on July 13, 2015, 10:39:29 AM
Peoples says that bitcoin network pass this stres test, but I think this test is successful.
Network is messed more than 10 days, many uncon. transaction...
That's because the last few test aren't conducted on a large scale. Since the unconfirmed transactions is constantly above 30k, the attackers would have spent quite some money to push it up and maintain at such a high amount for days. That being said, a little higher fee would immediately solve the problem and doubling of block size would require double the money to conduct an attack that is like this.


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: shad_90 on July 13, 2015, 01:52:52 PM
It is time to decide, which one is most precious time or BTC ? ;D
If BTC, then don't worry about time. lower your transaction fees.
If Time, then don't worry about BTC. increase your transaction fees.


Title: Re: this stress test is really messing with my day
Post by: lorylore on July 14, 2015, 10:24:26 PM
I have seen an transaction that didnt had any fee. it was 0.00 bitcoin, and never get confirmed.