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This was my first topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1115135.msg11829145#msg11829145

This Arabic Ripper scammed me 43$ payza. He told me that he sent the btc from some gambling website called http://www.cloudbet.com  .
In fact i wait 40 minutes and nothing happens. He could not even take a screenshot or send me the information of the transaction from blockchain.info

May God be with you, ripper, even if you are Arabic or not. Muslims are not scammers.

الله يسلمك

http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp27/zazainlalaqarabic/proof%201_zpsrh3soowu.png (http://s394.photobucket.com/user/zazainlalaqarabic/media/proof%201_zpsrh3soowu.png.html)

http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp27/zazainlalaqarabic/proof%203_zpsytbmpv1b.png (http://s394.photobucket.com/user/zazainlalaqarabic/media/proof%203_zpsytbmpv1b.png.html)

http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp27/zazainlalaqarabic/proof%202_zpsd7yppvw0.png (http://s394.photobucket.com/user/zazainlalaqarabic/media/proof%202_zpsd7yppvw0.png.html)

I'm sorry for your loss. Next time be careful in trading. Use escrow. It's a must in every transaction specially if you are trading with someone who doesn't have a good reputation.

zain1993 what BTC address did you give morocco.man to make the payment? What exact BTC amount was agreed? With this information we can check the blockchain and know for sure whether the payment was made. Please post the quoted PM or the screenshot of the message where you sent that address.

Blockchain tx's are slow today.
If sending from a gambling site they too would have slow tx's.
Should of sent from your own wallet not from a gambling site.

He told me "i asking for a small premium so i can sell you 0.15 for 43$" and my BTC address is 1LFdK562FkxhfV2ZLqdycamf64zao8iGAQ.

Checked on blockchain.info. No incoming transaction  :o. That Morocco guy is definitely a scammer!  :-\

You should have used an escrow. There was no point to refuse an escrow as morroco isn't a trusted guy. Please take care next tym. Sadly, you might not see your money back again :(

If new account suddenly very active on marketplace section , you must be careful, escrow is the first option for safe trade, sorry for your lose , you got the lesson.

You can open payza dispute i hope you get all your money back

They won't help you because their user agreement is against selling/buying Bitcoins from unauthorized services.

Yes but he did not said that to payza so he can still try

Hello

Did you make dispute to payza?
If not make dispute and add this link
Next time use escrow.

Aicha3011 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=533060) is alt of morocco.man

First , shawncart bought amazon GC from aicha3011 on july 15th here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1122394.msg11882949#msg11882949) . he sent the btc to aicha3011's address but he didn't receive the AGC.
On july 16th, aicha3011 opened this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1125286.0) , I saw shawncart post on this thread, he said, he already sent the btc but didn't receive the AGC, aicha3011 deny it , he said that he never received any payment from shawncart. Then shawncart post the screenshot of his conversation with aicha3011, including aicha3011's address on the SS. I am doing quick search, I almost sure that address belongs to morocco.man , but when I refreshed the thread, shawncart's post has disappeared.

Then, I have to find another way to proving that aicha3011 is the same person with morocco.man.
morocco.man sent $0.44 btc to emerge here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1097171.msg11760307#msg11760307), |  Tx Id (https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/433dfc77e855b9888b035ab278a334165408318ff249922cbf44160f12032b1b),
Emerge's address : 1Gi58H2hERBBf5HJVdQeixt7LXuiV1ve7k |  Posted here  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1097171.msg11760302#msg11760302)
Morocco.man's address : 1JhB1bKwDLuw6F7q8aZ2isPuTV6nYwg9V | he used this address to send btc to emerge, and also to btcfan97  here  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1097880.msg11731819#msg11731819)

Then, let's take a look aicha3011's trust
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=533060
Untrusted feedback no.1
TraderCal11 | 2015-07-12 | 0.03000 | His BTC for my PayPal. He sent first. THanks
TraderCal11's address : 1PmLR9HTUs2vPF75fEd27E8CwJK8YXdZph | posted here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1104942.msg11759763#msg11759763)
Aicha3011 sent btc to traderCal11 from 1JhB1bKwDLuw6F7q8aZ2isPuTV6nYwg9V | tx id  (https://blockchain.info/tx/e5f4a44d5fdd8abd3fb64d883e0e2dedce7e5db35b89d9a7357a2d45ce73f7b1) |  thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1118634.msg11859926#msg11859926)

Untrusted feedback no.2
ifightformerkel | 2015-07-12 | 0.03800 | He sold me 0.038 BTC, he send first,everything went fine and very fast, nice guy.
ifightformerkel's address : 1PErxneKUsQ5PojdkSKHx1bdtqEJ8p3fj3 | posted here  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1036780.msg11764489#msg11764489)
transaction id  (https://blockchain.info/tx/a7b6d6c0e3eb7d3aa577416a9ffbd314b7deded64347369c02681ebc1a013e6d) | thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1119620.0)

did you think this is coincidence ?, no.
You could check the latest feedback from ahmedjadoon , I'm sure ahmedjadoon sent 0.069 btc to 1JhB1bKwDLuw6F7q8aZ2isPuTV6nYwg9V

I walked straight into this...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1132616.msg11949259#msg11949259

When I got the (hotmail) email address to send the PayPal I sent the funds and the info came back as

Sent to:   
   Dabbou Aicha
Email:   
   mouad212barcelona@gmail.com

(shame PayPal doesn't offer this up first)

Which on closer inspection is the one and same email and name that morocco.man used in this transaction...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108267.0

I sent my wallet addy 1D4MzQmugAvub31NJrTun8v1GYGUpSKECh and got this back...


An hour has gone past and still no deposit into the online wallet, nore my funds refunded, and no answer to my follow up sent a few minutes ago.

The topic has been closed for further comments , but he's still online.

I need some guidance - do I start a charge back on PayPal, wait a little bit longer (in either case risk negative feed back trust from this scammer.

Do I post negative feed back sooner rather than later?

Thanks for reading.

Do a chargeback as soon as possible, scammer will make thousand excuses before finally disappear.
Just curious, why did you send first to newbie while you are jr.member?

I guess I was distracted  >:(

Two things I've learnt from this:

• No more Hotmail email addresses...
• Lower activity can go first from now on.

Food for thought - PayPal:

Profile link to who scammed you?

PayPal does that sometimes which is why I always recommend escrow even when dealing with reversible methods. Don't listen to the BS others put out there. Escrow doesn't protect the seller of BTC but neither does you sending first.

These PayPal scammers have absolutely NO interest in BTC and are only after free PayPal funds. They use these funds before they are reversed and are able to buy or create new accounts to keep the scamming going.

Transaction (as morocco.man) came from this wallet

https://blockchain.info/address/1JhB1bKwDLuw6F7q8aZ2isPuTV6nYwg9V

which has numerous transactions going back and forth.

Scammer as mustang01 just did a trade a couple of days ago...

morocco.man is still very active in currency exchange with multiple accounts , I have contacted someone who has done deal with him few times, but I think he don't want to disclose his username.

Please always use escrow if you want to deal even with high rank member.

Alt of morocco.man , marcos258 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=550375)
morocco.man / marcos258's address : 1JhB1bKwDLuw6F7q8aZ2isPuTV6nYwg9V

Did you contact payza for this issue?

His Skype is  (as marcos258)    hinally54 (and was last online four days ago...)

under the alt marco258 he's posted this today


Someone(s) on the Default Trust needs to leave negative trust as a matter of urgency!