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Title: Orphaned Transaction?
Post by: vurezo on July 11, 2015, 01:13:44 AM
https://blockchain.info/tx/688dc33fdc58695cb4a37428cd4bb0a04060bf455ebfc68aa4e2cf5f03e8a306

The appropriate fees have been paid (0.0001) and yet it still won't go through! Help please? :'(

Edit: Just realised it's 0.00001 paid in fees, not 0.0001, maybe that's why it never went through?


Title: Re: Orphaned Transaction?
Post by: jacktheking on July 11, 2015, 01:22:00 AM
Fees is too low. Next time please send at least 0.0001 as fees. Now the only thing you can do is wait. And wait. If you're lucky it will be confirmed within a day or two.


Title: Re: Orphaned Transaction?
Post by: vurezo on July 11, 2015, 01:30:18 AM
Fees is too low. Next time please send at least 0.0001 as fees. Now the only thing you can do is wait. And wait. If you're lucky it will be confirmed within a day or two.
Jesus, there isn't like some way I could pay like F2Pool to include the transaction in their next block or child-pays-for-parent, parent-pays-for-child or something like that? Sorry, I'm noob when it comes to Bitcoin!


Title: Re: Orphaned Transaction?
Post by: Hexcoin on July 11, 2015, 01:49:57 AM
https://blockchain.info/tx/688dc33fdc58695cb4a37428cd4bb0a04060bf455ebfc68aa4e2cf5f03e8a306

The appropriate fees have been paid (0.0001) and yet it still won't go through! Help please? :'(

Edit: Just realised it's 0.00001 paid in fees, not 0.0001, maybe that's why it never went through?

i wonder why your transaction is in "High Priority" status yet the transaction fee is only .00001 satoshi. btw, there is still 9k+ unconfirmed transaction so maybe your transaction is in the last coz of the transaction fee you paid for the miners


Title: Re: Orphaned Transaction?
Post by: vurezo on July 11, 2015, 01:55:06 AM
https://blockchain.info/tx/688dc33fdc58695cb4a37428cd4bb0a04060bf455ebfc68aa4e2cf5f03e8a306

The appropriate fees have been paid (0.0001) and yet it still won't go through! Help please? :'(

Edit: Just realised it's 0.00001 paid in fees, not 0.0001, maybe that's why it never went through?

i wonder why your transaction is in "High Priority" status yet the transaction fee is only .00001 satoshi. btw, there is still 9k+ unconfirmed transaction so maybe your transaction is in the last coz of the transaction fee you paid for the miners
Yeah, I wonder that too. The other transactions I made with the same fee around the same time all got included in the very next block.


Title: Re: Orphaned Transaction?
Post by: ranochigo on July 11, 2015, 09:44:55 AM
https://blockchain.info/tx/688dc33fdc58695cb4a37428cd4bb0a04060bf455ebfc68aa4e2cf5f03e8a306

The appropriate fees have been paid (0.0001) and yet it still won't go through! Help please? :'(

Edit: Just realised it's 0.00001 paid in fees, not 0.0001, maybe that's why it never went through?

i wonder why your transaction is in "High Priority" status yet the transaction fee is only .00001 satoshi. btw, there is still 9k+ unconfirmed transaction so maybe your transaction is in the last coz of the transaction fee you paid for the miners
The priority is 57,417,500 which would allow to be eligible for the 50kb of free transaction block and it would have been in on a regular load with such priority but the current load would push your transaction to a lower rank. 0.00001BTC fee is not competitive enough to compete with the current spam as most of them pay around 0.0001BTC/KB.


Title: Re: Orphaned Transaction?
Post by: vurezo on July 11, 2015, 01:21:54 PM
https://blockchain.info/tx/688dc33fdc58695cb4a37428cd4bb0a04060bf455ebfc68aa4e2cf5f03e8a306

The appropriate fees have been paid (0.0001) and yet it still won't go through! Help please? :'(

Edit: Just realised it's 0.00001 paid in fees, not 0.0001, maybe that's why it never went through?

i wonder why your transaction is in "High Priority" status yet the transaction fee is only .00001 satoshi. btw, there is still 9k+ unconfirmed transaction so maybe your transaction is in the last coz of the transaction fee you paid for the miners
The priority is 57,417,500 which would allow to be eligible for the 50kb of free transaction block and it would have been in on a regular load with such priority but the current load would push your transaction to a lower rank. 0.00001BTC fee is not competitive enough to compete with the current spam as most of them pay around 0.0001BTC/KB.
Maybe the best course of action would be to politely ask them to pause the current spam? Maybe even over a cup of tea?


Title: Re: Orphaned Transaction?
Post by: Coef on July 11, 2015, 08:12:36 PM
i wonder why your transaction is in "High Priority" status yet the transaction fee is only .00001 satoshi. btw, there is still 9k+ unconfirmed transaction so maybe your transaction is in the last coz of the transaction fee you paid for the miners

9k unconfirmed transaction? There are 76k as shown on http://bitcoinexchangerate.org/fees.

With so many transactions waiting to be included in the blocks, in which many of them are paying a much higher fee rate than OP's transaction, I don't see OP's transaction getting confirmed in the near future.
IMO the best option would be to create a double-spend transaction with a higher fee.
If you use bitcoin core, you could refer to this old thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=231309.0 for a step-by-step tutorial.


Title: Re: Orphaned Transaction?
Post by: vurezo on July 12, 2015, 12:32:36 AM
i wonder why your transaction is in "High Priority" status yet the transaction fee is only .00001 satoshi. btw, there is still 9k+ unconfirmed transaction so maybe your transaction is in the last coz of the transaction fee you paid for the miners

9k unconfirmed transaction? There are 76k as shown on http://bitcoinexchangerate.org/fees.

With so many transactions waiting to be included in the blocks, in which many of them are paying a much higher fee rate than OP's transaction, I don't see OP's transaction getting confirmed in the near future.
IMO the best option would be to create a double-spend transaction with a higher fee.
If you use bitcoin core, you could refer to this old thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=231309.0 for a step-by-step tutorial.
Thanks, I already know how to double-spend, had similar issues way too many times! ::)


Title: Re: Orphaned Transaction?
Post by: ranochigo on July 12, 2015, 03:43:49 AM
i wonder why your transaction is in "High Priority" status yet the transaction fee is only .00001 satoshi. btw, there is still 9k+ unconfirmed transaction so maybe your transaction is in the last coz of the transaction fee you paid for the miners

9k unconfirmed transaction? There are 76k as shown on http://bitcoinexchangerate.org/fees.

With so many transactions waiting to be included in the blocks, in which many of them are paying a much higher fee rate than OP's transaction, I don't see OP's transaction getting confirmed in the near future.
IMO the best option would be to create a double-spend transaction with a higher fee.
If you use bitcoin core, you could refer to this old thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=231309.0 for a step-by-step tutorial.
That is quite old and now, reference clients do not relay double spend transactions. They will reject any transactions with inputs matching other transaction in their mempool, whether you pay more fees or not. You have to find a miner which would accept your other transaction or if the miner has already forgotten about your tranaction.


Title: Re: Orphaned Transaction?
Post by: Coef on July 12, 2015, 01:07:44 PM
i wonder why your transaction is in "High Priority" status yet the transaction fee is only .00001 satoshi. btw, there is still 9k+ unconfirmed transaction so maybe your transaction is in the last coz of the transaction fee you paid for the miners

9k unconfirmed transaction? There are 76k as shown on http://bitcoinexchangerate.org/fees.

With so many transactions waiting to be included in the blocks, in which many of them are paying a much higher fee rate than OP's transaction, I don't see OP's transaction getting confirmed in the near future.
IMO the best option would be to create a double-spend transaction with a higher fee.
If you use bitcoin core, you could refer to this old thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=231309.0 for a step-by-step tutorial.
That is quite old and now, reference clients do not relay double spend transactions. They will reject any transactions with inputs matching other transaction in their mempool, whether you pay more fees or not. You have to find a miner which would accept your other transaction or if the miner has already forgotten about your tranaction.

At the beginning, yes, your peer nodes will reject your double-spend transaction because they have your original transaction already in their mempools. But as times goes by, they will drop your original transaction after a few days. So, you should continue rebroadcasting your new transaction until then using https://blockchain.info/pushtx or https://insight.bitpay.com/tx/send.
Or, you could use use -zapwallettxes on your original wallet to create the double-spend transaction, rather than creating a new empty wallet, and it will keep rebroadcasting the new transaction.


Title: Re: Orphaned Transaction?
Post by: -XXIII- on July 12, 2015, 01:34:31 PM
Fees is too low. Next time please send at least 0.0001 as fees. Now the only thing you can do is wait. And wait. If you're lucky it will be confirmed within a day or two.

This happened to me as well, using the default BTC Android/BB client only sends 0.00001 on small or large txs, it's been since Fridays I'm waiting still... screenshot (https://i.imgur.com/276s6Yi.png)