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Title: I am short...
Post by: criptix on July 11, 2015, 03:44:22 PM
Since 285 and want to commit suicide now.
which number should i call?

Please help me and all other bears!!!!!


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Xialla on July 11, 2015, 03:46:29 PM
haha, you just had what you deserve. now, please watching it every minute and start calculating, how much you already lost and how much you will loose.))

now seriously, you really sold everything?


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Bobsurplus on July 11, 2015, 03:49:35 PM
Cut ur losses and turn that short upside down and go long.
ASAP. Sunday night we gonna fly.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: inca on July 11, 2015, 03:50:19 PM
Since 285 and want to commit suicide now.
which number should i call?

Please help me and all other bears!!!!!

Live by the sword..


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Amph on July 11, 2015, 03:51:40 PM
260? it should not fall under the previous range

if you really want to short stay in 250-300


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 11, 2015, 04:39:29 PM
Cut ur losses and turn that short upside down and go long.
ASAP. Sunday night we gonna fly.

What Bob said.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Patel on July 11, 2015, 04:47:47 PM
Don't worry, we will see 270's again


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Bobsurplus on July 11, 2015, 04:53:23 PM
Cut ur losses and turn that short upside down and go long.
ASAP. Sunday night we gonna fly.

What Bob said.

Bob forgot about the Greek tragedy fizzling out, that's what bootstrapped the pump.  No tragedy? No pump.  No pump?  BTC slinks back down :(

Yeah, Im not forgetting to take into account that a little birdie tells me that the Chinese are loading up the btc exchanges with fiat as we speak.
You think taking 30% & 40% losses in the Chinese stock market leaves a good taste in the investors mouths.
China is about to set this rocket off.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 11, 2015, 04:54:12 PM
Cut ur losses and turn that short upside down and go long.
ASAP. Sunday night we gonna fly.

What Bob said.

Bob forgot about the Greek tragedy fizzling out, that's what bootstrapped the pump.  No tragedy? No pump.  No pump?  BTC slinks back down :(

That's what I thought. Yesterday. Anyway, trying to out-guess this market isn't really my bag. Good luck.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Bobsurplus on July 11, 2015, 04:55:26 PM
Cut ur losses and turn that short upside down and go long.
ASAP. Sunday night we gonna fly.

What Bob said.

Bob forgot about the Greek tragedy fizzling out, that's what bootstrapped the pump.  No tragedy? No pump.  No pump?  BTC slinks back down :(

That's what I thought. Yesterday. Anyway, trying to out-guess this market isn't really my bag. Good luck.

Im not playing the market either now.. Just working and earning btc like normal.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: willope on July 11, 2015, 05:25:09 PM
Cut ur losses and turn that short upside down and go long.
ASAP. Sunday night we gonna fly.

What Bob said.

Bob forgot about the Greek tragedy fizzling out, that's what bootstrapped the pump.  No tragedy? No pump.  No pump?  BTC slinks back down :(

That's what I thought. Yesterday. Anyway, trying to out-guess this market isn't really my bag. Good luck.

Short term is completely impossible to predict btc price. But, at least for me, long term it is quietly easy to predict price and trends.
For example, all the year of 2014 was a downtrend of ~50$ per month. It was a linear trend.
Now we are clearly heading up. I honestly don't know how fast it will occur and what will be the top but I see a strong bullish feeling. So I think, that- not this month, but- we are heading to a new, big big bubble.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: chesthing on July 11, 2015, 05:57:01 PM
Since 285 and want to commit suicide now.
which number should i call?

Please help me and all other bears!!!!!

You can buy back now at a loss of under $10/bitcoin, that is a small sting. If you short and it goes 5x+, then you can think suicidal thoughts.
Seriously, just buy some back if you are that worried about it.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Morecoin Freeman on July 11, 2015, 07:24:43 PM
$285 Is actually not too bad.
You will survive. Don't worry. ;)


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: GaliX on July 11, 2015, 08:06:25 PM
$285 Is actually not too bad.
You will survive. Don't worry. ;)


yep. I wouldn't go long at these levels after a rally which was initiated and leaded by LTC. The last pump BTC came directly from the LTC dump on the ltc/btc pair.

It's profit taking time in my opinion. All the big guys are going to take at least partially profits at 300. I don't see it slice above 315$ without a bigger correction.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: solitude on July 11, 2015, 08:22:50 PM
Kill yourself OP. 

You and all the other retards who thought you'd make a few bucks selling your coins.

It's because of retards like you who can't see the big picture why the price of bitcoin is so low.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: co5hike on July 11, 2015, 08:28:02 PM
Cut ur losses and turn that short upside down and go long.
ASAP. Sunday night we gonna fly.

What Bob said.

So nice to see these two guys agreeing for once.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: kwukduck on July 11, 2015, 09:26:06 PM
Don't worry, within a few days this thing will come crashing down 10x harder than it went up.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: criptix on July 11, 2015, 09:51:03 PM
Don't worry, within a few days this thing will come crashing down 10x harder than it went up.

Atleast one bear fellow with a nice comment do you think finally double digits in august?  :(


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: trackermut on July 11, 2015, 09:57:56 PM
Op what was you reason for shorting at this point? and has your view changed.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Bicmac1973 on July 11, 2015, 11:36:57 PM
Obviously you have a bad gut feeling about your decision. I also lost a fair amount by shorting, when price rised from 215 to 240 a few weeks ago. I cut my losses at 235 and went to the sideline until I had a clear feeling about market sentiment and trend.
Current market sentiment seems to be very bullish, so you should cut losses and close your shorts. If your personal sentiment is still bearish, step at the sideline and observe the market. If the market should turn bearish again, you have enough time to get your personal sentiment confirmed and open new shorts. If the market turns bearish, price should give you enough room to compensate your losses.

Currently most of the folks here is very bullish though and it may be well possible that we are on the beginning of a new bubble. I would suggest to observe the posts of a few people here on the forum, who publish opinions and TA like RynDaClem, chessnut, masterluc, Tzupy, klee and others. Keep in mind that they are all humans and therefore have their personal bias based on personal experiences and expectations.

Make yourself clear, what your personal criteria are to change your sentiment. Once they are met, make your decision and do not get mad if it should not work out as expected everytime.

And my most important advice: set kwuckduck on ignore! This user has no valuable information to offer and his only motivation for his permabear posts is his personal agenda. That has nothing to do with personal sentiment anymore and is just annoying. If you want to get a more bearish point of view, have a look at RynDaClems and Tzupys posts.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: samson on July 12, 2015, 11:20:16 PM
Cut ur losses and turn that short upside down and go long.
ASAP. Sunday night we gonna fly.

What Bob said.

Bob forgot about the Greek tragedy fizzling out, that's what bootstrapped the pump.  No tragedy? No pump.  No pump?  BTC slinks back down :(

Yeah, Im not forgetting to take into account that a little birdie tells me that the Chinese are loading up the btc exchanges with fiat as we speak.
You think taking 30% & 40% losses in the Chinese stock market leaves a good taste in the investors mouths.
China is about to set this rocket off.

A lot of those Chinese will have made big money by selling at the top of a bubble so they're fully liquid and ready to go.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Chef Ramsay on July 12, 2015, 11:37:43 PM
Don't worry, within a few days this thing will come crashing down 10x harder than it went up.

Atleast one bear fellow with a nice comment do you think finally double digits in august?  :(
Don't feed the trolls, especially one as delusional as ducknut. As for this thread, it's clearly a bull mocking neanderthal bears and making fun of anyone that would consider shorting btc at this point. It's a warning of what doing so will lead to if ya don't change your trading actions from last year.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 12, 2015, 11:40:27 PM
Call the suicide hotline and tell them to go fuck themselves and then hang up.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: wlefever on July 13, 2015, 12:06:58 AM
Don't worry, within a few days this thing will come crashing down 10x harder than it went up.
I think so too, but the question is how high will it go before then or have we seen the top...


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 13, 2015, 12:24:27 PM
Cut ur losses and turn that short upside down and go long.
ASAP. Sunday night we gonna fly.

What Bob said.

Bob forgot about the Greek tragedy fizzling out, that's what bootstrapped the pump.  No tragedy? No pump.  No pump?  BTC slinks back down :(

That's what I thought. Yesterday. Anyway, trying to out-guess this market isn't really my bag. Good luck.

Im not playing the market either now.. Just working and earning btc like normal.

There's a lesson in this for the kids. Never listen to me or Bob. :-X


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: spazzdla on July 13, 2015, 01:06:09 PM
Potential bear trap, short all you want but don't come crying if you get murdered.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: wlefever on July 13, 2015, 01:22:09 PM
Potential bear trap, short all you want but don't come crying if you get murdered.
And, this is why I am sitting this out! 


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Tzupy on July 13, 2015, 01:25:08 PM
Don't worry, within a few days this thing will come crashing down 10x harder than it went up.

Atleast one bear fellow with a nice comment do you think finally double digits in august?  :(

I am going to assume the original post wasn't making fun of the bears, and I'll give you an advice.
It is possible for this uptrend to continue up to ~400$, after several days of sideways, so closing your short today or next days could be wise.
Even if there will be no further uptrend, and the bear market would resume, there will be plenty of other shorting opportunities.
As for double digits, I believe it's possible, but it might take 6 - 12 months to reach there (based on how slow the market is moving).


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Amph on July 13, 2015, 03:01:20 PM
Don't worry, within a few days this thing will come crashing down 10x harder than it went up.
I think so too, but the question is how high will it go before then or have we seen the top...

it will not crash under 200, why in the hell it should crash now under 200, when there were numerous possibility to do the same crash before, when bitcoin was more bvulnerable with the TX dram for example? no sense

it will keep climbing slowly, the last mini dump, is nothing not even a bear trap, just a random guy cashing out his profit, a mere swing....


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Wexlike on July 13, 2015, 09:35:50 PM
Since 285 and want to commit suicide now.
which number should i call?

Please help me and all other bears!!!!!

Feeling any better, OP?

Yeah, did you close your short ?


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: criptix on July 14, 2015, 12:02:34 AM
Since 285 and want to commit suicide now.
which number should i call?

Please help me and all other bears!!!!!

Feeling any better, OP?

Yeah, did you close your short ?

no i didnt start one to begin with :)


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: everaja on July 14, 2015, 12:14:32 AM
Since 285 and want to commit suicide now.
which number should i call?

Please help me and all other bears!!!!!

Don't worry , you gonna see the magic wands of 300+ till coming Sunday !
till then just take a long nap.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Bobsurplus on July 14, 2015, 02:39:45 AM
Cut ur losses and turn that short upside down and go long.
ASAP. Sunday night we gonna fly.

What Bob said.

Bob forgot about the Greek tragedy fizzling out, that's what bootstrapped the pump.  No tragedy? No pump.  No pump?  BTC slinks back down :(

That's what I thought. Yesterday. Anyway, trying to out-guess this market isn't really my bag. Good luck.

Im not playing the market either now.. Just working and earning btc like normal.



There's a lesson in this for the kids. Never listen to me or Bob. :-X
What you mean bro. They should always listen to us no matter what we say.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: chaoman on July 14, 2015, 03:23:26 AM
just eat the loss now or its gonna be higher. how many btc u short?


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Raize on July 14, 2015, 06:45:03 AM
I've never understood why people short. Selling options makes sense because its a hedge, or at least, can be. Selling short is opening yourself up to liability that you shouldn't. You can lose everything that way. Not a great idea, IMHO.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: HarHarHar9965 on July 14, 2015, 08:55:49 AM
I think that the price is going to fall a lot more before the real spike starts so I advise you to chill out and buy it later if you can hope to be an optimistic or just buy it now with a loss of 10$. I am going to ivnest heavy money in btc when the price drops and I predict it to be within the end of the month, let's see how it goes down ;)


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 14, 2015, 12:48:53 PM
Cut ur losses and turn that short upside down and go long.
ASAP. Sunday night we gonna fly.

What Bob said.

Bob forgot about the Greek tragedy fizzling out, that's what bootstrapped the pump.  No tragedy? No pump.  No pump?  BTC slinks back down :(

That's what I thought. Yesterday. Anyway, trying to out-guess this market isn't really my bag. Good luck.



Im not playing the market either now.. Just working and earning btc like normal.



There's a lesson in this for the kids. Never listen to me or Bob. :-X
What you mean bro. They should always listen to us no matter what we say.

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/nobody-has-seen-this-but.jpg


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Hfertig on July 14, 2015, 03:43:44 PM
I've never understood why people short. Selling options makes sense because its a hedge, or at least, can be. Selling short is opening yourself up to liability that you shouldn't. You can lose everything that way. Not a great idea, IMHO.

I donīt understand why people would go long bitcoin. I could not sleep all night with that risk. No issues with beeing short... In the long run bitcoin will be more or less worthless. To many flaws and old tech...


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Amph on July 14, 2015, 07:01:54 PM
I've never understood why people short. Selling options makes sense because its a hedge, or at least, can be. Selling short is opening yourself up to liability that you shouldn't. You can lose everything that way. Not a great idea, IMHO.

I donīt understand why people would go long bitcoin. I could not sleep all night with that risk. No issues with beeing short... In the long run bitcoin will be more or less worthless. To many flaws and old tech...

well the market is saying otherwise at the moment, we made a brech in the 250-275 range, i doubt we can fal back anytime soon or ever, you can go short while we climb, and be profitable, because swing like the last one are there for shorters

but bitcoin is aiming to have a much better value in the future, and since the general belief is that bitcoin will rise , it's more risky to short, than going long and be more safe


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: inca on July 14, 2015, 07:40:00 PM
I donīt understand why people would go long bitcoin. I could not sleep all night with that risk. No issues with beeing short... In the long run bitcoin will be more or less worthless. To many flaws and old tech...

Haha. Now that is a quality troll post.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: RodeoX on July 14, 2015, 08:03:49 PM
I donīt understand why people would go long bitcoin. I could not sleep all night with that risk. No issues with beeing short... In the long run bitcoin will be more or less worthless. To many flaws and old tech...
Really? I sleep like a baby with a gold spoon in his mouth. But if that's your assessment then I see how attractive shorting looks. However, I think a lot of people who tried shorting this week are very sad.



Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: NorrisK on July 14, 2015, 08:38:13 PM
I've never understood why people short. Selling options makes sense because its a hedge, or at least, can be. Selling short is opening yourself up to liability that you shouldn't. You can lose everything that way. Not a great idea, IMHO.

I donīt understand why people would go long bitcoin. I could not sleep all night with that risk. No issues with beeing short... In the long run bitcoin will be more or less worthless. To many flaws and old tech...

What are you doing here still then? Go short and forget about bitcoin if you are so sure like you say.. The tech is not old, it is actually still brand new..


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: jehst on July 14, 2015, 09:25:23 PM
I've seen the film before. This is the part with very low volume sideways to up movement for several days followed by the next high volume dump.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: misterycoins on July 27, 2015, 07:07:24 PM
Since 285 and want to commit suicide now.
which number should i call?

Please help me and all other bears!!!!!
if you want to follow a day-trading type pattern, you can try and ride the high and lows for quick profit; however, this is obviously risky.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: mrhelpful on July 27, 2015, 08:13:06 PM
I`d hold.

Its at 295 now, and I rarely check prices. I probably check em every 1 time out of the whole week which is every monday.

But, its based on where this volume dump is coming from.. obviously im in a different approach with bitcoin.



Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: scott btc on July 28, 2015, 12:14:14 AM
Having a target per day is unreasonable, trading is not work. If market God decides that market won't move today. You make no money


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: techgeek on July 28, 2015, 05:26:04 AM
I've seen the film before. This is the part with very low volume sideways to up movement for several days followed by the next high volume dump.

The past is always a history for a reason.

Its the learn from it right, so regardless of the up and down volume you can always expect nothing more to go up based on VC`s money already thrown more then $100 mill into bitcoin companies.

That alone says something, if not then I dont know what to say.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: dodgecharger on August 03, 2015, 09:25:23 PM
Since 285 and want to commit suicide now.
which number should i call?

Please help me and all other bears!!!!!
Emotions and trading and investing go real bad together. It is effectively a guarantee that you will lose money because you decisions are dictated by your emotions.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: neurotypical on August 04, 2015, 12:33:35 AM
You've had several opportunities now to get your ass back in the game and hold. Hope you learned the lesson: You can't outsmart the sharks and whales, so buy and hold long term, sell when you have a decent profit and think it will go down to buy back.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Andy4.4 on August 04, 2015, 05:14:30 AM
You can get back those and even with some profit too.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Chef Ramsay on August 04, 2015, 06:07:46 AM
You can get back those and even with some profit too.
If you go way long at this point. Now is not the point to short bitcoin or litecoin, things are destined to take off and you should be mindful of that. If you did this 6 months ago, you'd win easy but now it's all long.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Herbert2020 on August 04, 2015, 07:17:58 AM
Since 285 and want to commit suicide now.
which number should i call?

Please help me and all other bears!!!!!
if you want to follow a day-trading type pattern, you can try and ride the high and lows for quick profit; however, this is obviously risky.

i think it is safe to say that you should first learn to how to take risks and cut losses and then enter bitcoin trading market. because otherwise you are going to lose all your investment and get depressed over it


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: srgkrgkj on August 04, 2015, 10:09:34 AM
well I sold off at $260 mate so I think I'm the shortest here but I'm building my stash back up and hoping for the best :D


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Andy4.4 on August 06, 2015, 03:08:36 PM
You can get back those and even with some profit too.
If you go way long at this point. Now is not the point to short bitcoin or litecoin, things are destined to take off and you should be mindful of that. If you did this 6 months ago, you'd win easy but now it's all long.
No it's not gone anywhere.
Litecoin's price also increased recently to $8 from around $4 and then came back to $4 in just a few days.
So when pumps happen then dumps also happen after that.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on August 06, 2015, 03:31:55 PM
Since 285 and want to commit suicide now.
which number should i call?

Please help me and all other bears!!!!!
if you want to follow a day-trading type pattern, you can try and ride the high and lows for quick profit; however, this is obviously risky.

i think it is safe to say that you should first learn to how to take risks and cut losses and then enter bitcoin trading market. because otherwise you are going to lose all your investment and get depressed over it

I am unable to cut loses. Everytime I sell Bitcoin I honestly feel like an idiot. The only logical strategy with Bitcoin for me is simply buying and holding monthly, acquiring more BTC monthly, no matter if its a little bit or an entire Bitcoin, just buy and hold.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: thinkinger on August 06, 2015, 04:46:08 PM
my strategy is having my money into two parts.one half is for having btc , one is staying in cash.if it raises 1 per cent , i sell 10 percent if 2 per cent , sell another 10 per cent and so on. if it drops 2 per cent , i buy 10 percent , if 4 per cent , buy another 10 percent and goes on. you could use this or sth like this.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: botany on August 06, 2015, 05:11:02 PM
my strategy is having my money into two parts.one half is for having btc , one is staying in cash.if it raises 1 per cent , i sell 10 percent if 2 per cent , sell another 10 per cent and so on. if it drops 2 per cent , i buy 10 percent , if 4 per cent , buy another 10 percent and goes on. you could use this or sth like this.

Strategy should work in volatile markets, and bitcoin is definitely volatile.
However, if there is a big bull run, you will not get the full benefit.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: Patel on August 06, 2015, 05:29:41 PM
Don't worry, we will see 270's again

Now it your chance OP, but we will probably see high 260's in a week


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: thinkinger on August 08, 2015, 03:09:46 PM
my strategy is having my money into two parts.one half is for having btc , one is staying in cash.if it raises 1 per cent , i sell 10 percent if 2 per cent , sell another 10 per cent and so on. if it drops 2 per cent , i buy 10 percent , if 4 per cent , buy another 10 percent and goes on. you could use this or sth like this.

Strategy should work in volatile markets, and bitcoin is definitely volatile.
However, if there is a big bull run, you will not get the full benefit.
you are right.it is suitable for not volatile times of bitcoin. for getting the advantages of a big run you can use another market . Buy wait and sell 20 percent higher. or sth. like that.


Title: Re: I am short...
Post by: criptix on August 08, 2015, 03:48:11 PM
Since 285 and want to commit suicide now.
which number should i call?

Please help me and all other bears!!!!!

Call me, OP, I'll help you party.

I already did yesterday in anticipation of today but your thread got deleted  ;)