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ok. so i have the blockchain wallet...along with the bitcoin client. i was playing satoshidice and made a lot of bets. i was ahead a fair amount and everything was going smooth.  
  i noticed that my bets started to "freeze" with unconfirmed status...ussually even if its unconfirmed satoshidice bet goes through and sends the winnings or losings.
  i then sent a big chunk(big to me) to my bitcoin wallet...it too is still unconfirmed and not showing up in that wallet.
its been about 5 hours and it doesnt look like anythings happening.
 so anyway...the big chunk is in limbo...along with about 7btc worth of dice bets... so im basically broke.
       how long could this possibly take...and how does bitcoin decide which transactions get confirmed because there are patches of confirmed with a chunk of unconfirmed back to confirmed... then again to unconfirmed.

   i want my btc

bumb...anyone

god dammit i want my fucking money,  is this normal for bitcoin? anyone....anyone?

have you checked blockchain.info with your address?

maybe the transactions haven't been confirmed yet?

Its normal if you didn't add any miner's fee.

yea they just say unconfirmed... or they are bets to satoshidice that dont show up when i look them up on satoshidice... tx #

 92206607d814c6a679123a5d3e4de916de030e6f9c983d8a2802fe130958a9ec

eb0b7ebfe7c703d59758bc28190745ef2c14798ef6439e1dca38ceea344fe94d

23ead29afa51f18280afa863a87959c0270d8cfe4d7d79fd3be5dc5d2ee2ef3f

6dfb2e0e7e361dd7a69c52855c2b1339a86a4d96ca0062a70507db590b4a0250

 f9695790ce0967a114edba6387c82e8f7deef57be49ae095702c28e1edbf6b15

wtf

they can just choose to ignore my transaction? i paid the normal fee....all the other trans went through?

you just need to wait for some people to confirm the transaction. bitcoin confirmations can be slow sometimes.

what do i need to do so this never happens again? otherwise im cashing out

its been 7 hours on the one transaction....

You might want to have a look at this chart:

http://bitcoinstats.org/

the transaction timer

thanks...but what is that saying? i mean i kind of get it...but not fully.   so the harder the blocks get to solve the longer we are all going to have to wait in the future?

nope, definitely not. The difficulty only rises with hashing power, so it means it should stay on a very similar level

so is that fee they talk about... is that the .0005 fee or an additional miner fee?

the 92206607d814c6a679123a5d3e4de916de030e6f9c983d8a2802fe130958a9ec while the fee is ok is waiting for
eb0b7ebfe7c703d59758bc28190745ef2c14798ef6439e1dca38ceea344fe94d to proceed which have less than recommended fee.

the 23ead29afa51f18280afa863a87959c0270d8cfe4d7d79fd3be5dc5d2ee2ef3f is waiting for
6dfb2e0e7e361dd7a69c52855c2b1339a86a4d96ca0062a70507db590b4a0250  for the same reason

the f9695790ce0967a114edba6387c82e8f7deef57be49ae095702c28e1edbf6b15 has small fee as well.

If your using the computed fee then the program/webwallet you are using is computing it bad. But if you lowered the fees always to 0.0005 yourselves then its your fault.

Either way you have to wait for a miner who is including tx with less than recommended fees.

Yes it is the fee but if the transaction size is over 1000 bytes then .0005 fee is not sufficient and majority of miners will not include it in a block so you have to wait (recommended fee is .0005 per every 1000 bytes, rounded up)

fuck me

so this could take days?

Don't worry. A miner you add your transactions eventually.

so what would get me noticed  like would.001 move things along or is that not enough either

Now you cannot do anything, just wait. Next time, if you want the transaction process in timely fashion put the recommended fee. I dont have experience with blockchain.info webwallet but I assume they computed the right recommended fee and you lowered it to 0.0005 in some cases yourselves, right?

Please always remember to pay your taxes in this ultra-libertarian utopia. http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp258/Fortiske/teach.gif

i might have...im not sure there are 3 choices... no fee     .0005 fee(normal)    and   .001(generous)    i just have it on normal  .0005  i can manually make it a diff amount.....but what?

ive gotten a check in the mail faster than this.....cash out please...anyone want to buy some btc? 

This most often happens when you create a payment out of many tiny inputs resulting in a large transaction size. If you do not pay a small fee it can take up to 24 hours to confirm, I have never had it take longer.

The dice are to blame, splitting up your wallet into tiny change. It is like trying to buy something with a bag of pennies, they will want to count them first(an imperfect analogy I know).

unless you know the transaction size you dont know what the fee should be, thats why it sould be computed automaticaly by the webwallet. If there are these 3 options for EVERY transaction then its obviously bad on their side (webwallet) and you cannot do anything with it just select the minimum 0.0005 and live with it or change service

There aren't that many transactions that haven't been included, just 250 at the moment:

 - http://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions


A future version of the biticoin client will likely be including the feature that lets you [edit: the recipient?] pay (or add to) the fee for a previous transaction.
 - https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1647

This feature is currently in an (unstable) test version fo the client:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110898.0


So a better solution is likely coming, some day.

Today, for the wagers you've already sent, there's nothing more you can do than just sit tight and wait for the transactions to get included.

Also, I see the address common to your problem transactions has 962 transactions from or to it, apparently many to SatoshiDICE.  

It is possible that miners are specifically lowering the priority of transactions to "popular" addresses.  I don't know any specifically doing this but an address being re-used hundreds of times in rapid succession is something that sticks out like a sore thumb.

thanks for the information....all i can do is be patient i guess....just wish i would have known before i decided to tie up all my coin..everything was processing so fast for hours...then just screeched to a halt

there is an anonymous send option....would that cover the sore thumb

Incidentally, these have all confirmed now .

Blockchain.info doesn't use any transaction fee's by default. I didn't realize this and it took 20+ hours for a transactions of like 5btc. I Freaked out. Ended up moving all my BTC to torwallet as it seemed to be working faster.

Reformatted and reinstalled windows on my computer. Went back to torrwallet to get my coins and bam, fuck you I keep you 30btc hot wallet exhausted.

Man I wish I just took the time to set up transfer fee's on blockchain.info/wallet   

Ohh, for the last few days torwallet has been "deposit only", I hope they eventually fix that wallet up but I would not put anything there right now.

Reinstalled windows on your PC to make a bitcoin transaction clear faster?  That's a new one.  I run a PC repair shop and I've heard some stupid reasons for requests to reinstall Windows but this one might just have won.

Anyway, if there's a block with like 30 transactions and your transactions still didn't clear in it, wtf?  Are they ignoring it just to be dicks or what?  I mean I know they like money and all but it's a couple kilobytes.  I think a pool could easily include it if they wanted to.  Being programming to perpetually ignore low-free transactions is like extortion.  It's like "pay me more money or I won't do my trivially easy job."