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Title: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 12, 2015, 10:54:57 AM
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/calling-us-government-cancel-chinese-president-xi-jinpings-visit-us


WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:

Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit to the U.S.
Since the morning of July 10th, the Chinese authorities have begun a large-scale crackdown on human rights lawyers and activists in China. Within two days, over 60 human rights lawyers and activists have been forcefully taken away by the police or “disappeared”. The number is still rising.

Since Xi Jinping came to power, China’s human rights record has kept worsening. Under his reign over 1000 dissidents have been arrested. We urge President Obama and the U.S. government to investigate this case of severe human rights infringement, and, on humanitarian ground, take strong measures to intervene. Xi’s state visit to the U.S. scheduled for September this year should be cancelled, and all official exchanges with the Chinese government should be suspended until this matter is resolved.

Published Date: Jul 11, 2015

Issues: Civil Rights and Liberties, Foreign Policy, Human Rights


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: Nemo1024 on July 12, 2015, 11:10:44 AM
Can the petition be more specific about who those "human rights activists" were? From the experience, howling starts in USA only if some US State.Dep-funded NGO heads are starting to get "inconvenienced" in the countries they are paid to disrupt. In all other cases, human rights activists can just rot for all USA cares.

And by the amount of MSM attention, it looks like the cross-hairs and the attack angle has shifted a bit, targeting BRICS through China. Of maybe USA is just expanding the battle front.


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 12, 2015, 11:48:55 AM
Can the petition be more specific about who those "human rights activists" were? From the experience, howling starts in USA only if some US State.Dep-funded NGO heads are starting to get "inconvenienced" in the countries they are paid to disrupt. In all other cases, human rights activists can just rot for all USA cares.

And by the amount of MSM attention, it looks like the cross-hairs and the attack angle has shifted a bit, targeting BRICS through China. Of maybe USA is just expanding the battle front.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11HCBROeInln2lvV3RVyvYFFSC8lBB_jzZnTl-UnEOi0/htmlview?pli=1

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1117666.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1118956.0


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: Wilikon on July 12, 2015, 01:25:10 PM
Can the petition be more specific about who those "human rights activists" were? From the experience, howling starts in USA only if some US State.Dep-funded NGO heads are starting to get "inconvenienced" in the countries they are paid to disrupt. In all other cases, human rights activists can just rot for all USA cares.

And by the amount of MSM attention, it looks like the cross-hairs and the attack angle has shifted a bit, targeting BRICS through China. Of maybe USA is just expanding the battle front.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11HCBROeInln2lvV3RVyvYFFSC8lBB_jzZnTl-UnEOi0/htmlview?pli=1

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1117666.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1118956.0

Do you remember this?

Zero Class: Dalai Lama Escorted Out BACK Door of White House, Past the Bags of Garbage, Following Obama Visit


https://www.google.com/search?q=dalai+lama+white+house+visit&newwindow=1&espv=2&biw=1174&bih=715&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=uGiiVdbDBMe7-AG1nqW4Dw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAw#newwindow=1&tbm=isch&q=dalai+lama+white+house++back+door&imgrc=_


0bama loves china and all its abuses.




Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: Okurkabinladin on July 12, 2015, 01:38:55 PM
Can the petition be more specific about who those "human rights activists" were? From the experience, howling starts in USA only if some US State.Dep-funded NGO heads are starting to get "inconvenienced" in the countries they are paid to disrupt. In all other cases, human rights activists can just rot for all USA cares.

And by the amount of MSM attention, it looks like the cross-hairs and the attack angle has shifted a bit, targeting BRICS through China. Of maybe USA is just expanding the battle front.

Thats my suspicion aswell. All of sudden, quiet on the western front (Russia), now 84 (in country of 1.3 billion) "chinese activists" that received backing from US foreign department are the hot news.

I wonder how many black were shot in the back in the US during the same time...

US is using the NGOs in the same way as former euro powers were using jezuits. To form fifth column within prey/host country.


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: convection on July 12, 2015, 02:07:10 PM
Thanks. I had signed it. Also registered with the forum to make this reply.


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 12, 2015, 04:34:12 PM
Thanks. I had signed it. Also registered with the forum to make this reply.


thank you


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 12, 2015, 07:24:58 PM
Can the petition be more specific about who those "human rights activists" were? From the experience, howling starts in USA only if some US State.Dep-funded NGO heads are starting to get "inconvenienced" in the countries they are paid to disrupt. In all other cases, human rights activists can just rot for all USA cares.

And by the amount of MSM attention, it looks like the cross-hairs and the attack angle has shifted a bit, targeting BRICS through China. Of maybe USA is just expanding the battle front.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11HCBROeInln2lvV3RVyvYFFSC8lBB_jzZnTl-UnEOi0/htmlview?pli=1

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1117666.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1118956.0

Do you remember this?

Zero Class: Dalai Lama Escorted Out BACK Door of White House, Past the Bags of Garbage, Following Obama Visit


https://www.google.com/search?q=dalai+lama+white+house+visit&newwindow=1&espv=2&biw=1174&bih=715&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=uGiiVdbDBMe7-AG1nqW4Dw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAw#newwindow=1&tbm=isch&q=dalai+lama+white+house++back+door&imgrc=_


0bama loves china and all its abuses.



i don't care Obama,  time tells everything


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 13, 2015, 06:49:57 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJwSbNvUYAAANcF.jpg


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: spazzdla on July 13, 2015, 08:09:59 PM
Obama is going there to take notes... no chance he is canceling.

Both countries LOVE to oppress.


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 16, 2015, 06:37:54 AM
UP >:(


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: Snail2 on July 16, 2015, 07:45:56 AM
Don't want to be a party popper but those two probably going to talk about money and trade. When big money and trade are at the stake, politicians used to ignore human rights, rainforests and cute baby seals :/.


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 16, 2015, 08:07:26 PM
Don't want to be a party popper but those two probably going to talk about money and trade. When big money and trade are at the stake, politicians used to ignore human rights, rainforests and cute baby seals :/.


yes nowadays policy of appeasement everywhere around corner in western world but sooner or later this will ruin themselves


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 16, 2015, 09:28:02 PM
Obama is going there to take notes... no chance he is canceling.

Both countries LOVE to oppress.


anyway Obama is leaving

waiting 3rd world war to change everything


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: username18333 on July 17, 2015, 01:53:22 AM
Quote from: His Office, Summary Offences, Great Empire Code, 2015
Deference to Hierarchy
1. (crime) to both (1) machinate a counter to either heterarchy, its manifestation, or both and (2) actualize the same counter

If the Chinese government has committed a crime, have it prosecuted therefor.


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 17, 2015, 08:47:57 PM
Law Council deeply concerned with ‘crackdown’ against lawyers in China 

The Law Council of Australia has expressed deep concern at reports of a “major crackdown” in China, resulting in the mass arrest and detainment of lawyers, law firm staff, and activists.  Many of the lawyers apprehended, such as Wang Yu (王宇), Li Heping (李和平), and Sui Muqing (隋牧青), are well-regarded for their human rights work. The US State Department has condemned the detentions, and expressed concern that China’s new national security laws were being used as a “facade to commit human rights abuses.”  Law Council of Australia President-elect Stuart Clark said lawyers must be able to practise without fear of retribution for carrying out their professional duties. “The reports we are getting from China are deeply disturbing,” Mr Clark said. “An independent legal profession is fundamental to the promotion and protection of the rule of law. No lawyer should have to face intimidation, hindrance or improper interference in their work. “All lawyers, regardless of the country in which they work, should be treated in a manner consistent with international human rights law and the United Nations Basic Principles on the Role of Lawyers. “The Australian legal profession has a responsibility to monitor and promote the rule of law in the region, as reflected in the Law Council’s Rule of Law Principles.  “On behalf of lawyers in Australia and our colleagues across the region, the Law Council of Australia will continue to monitor these events carefully and will consult with the Australian Government and our counterparts globally,” Mr Clark concluded. 

Karuna Gurung, Acting Director of Communications

P. 02 6246 3715 // M. 0439 978 429

E. karuna.gurung@lawcouncil.asn.au // www.lawcouncil.asn.au   


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 17, 2015, 08:52:03 PM

http://anwaltverein.de/de/newsroom/pm-26-15-welle-von-festnahmen-chinesischer-anwaelte



PM 26/15: Welle von Festnahmen chinesischer Anwälte

DAV fordert Aufklärung durch chinesische Behörden

Berlin (DAV). Die Situation von Anwältinnen und Anwälten in China hat sich in dramatischer Weise verschlechtert. Im Zuge eines landesweiten Vorgehens sind zahlreiche Kolleginnen und Kollegen, die sich für die Menschenrechte anderer engagiert haben, inhaftiert worden bzw. „verschwunden“. Auch sind mindestens drei Anwaltskanzleien nach Informationen von Amnesty International durchsucht worden. Der Deutsche Anwaltverein (DAV) ist in großer Sorge, dass die chinesischen Anwältinnen und Anwälte Opfer von Folter und Misshandlung werden könnten.

„Das rigorose Vorgehen der chinesischen Behörden gegen Anwältinnen und Anwälte und andere Vertreter der Zivilgesellschaft hat mich – offen gestanden – zutiefst erschrocken. Wir werden nicht aufhören, den Schutz der Menschenrechte und der Menschenrechtsverteidiger einzufordern“, sagte DAV-Präsident Rechtsanwalt Ulrich Schellenberg. Erschreckt zeigt sich der DAV-Präsident, dass diese Inhaftierung kurz nach dem 15. Deutsch-Chinesischen Rechtsstaatsdialog am 6. und 7. Juli 2015 in Peking erfolgte.

In einem Schreiben bat Schellenberg den chinesischen Minister Song Dahan um Auskunft über die Gründe der Festnahme und der Durchsuchung von Anwaltskanzleien sowie den Verbleib der Kolleginnen und Kollegen. Zugleich forderte er die Einhaltung der internationalen Standards im Umgang mit Anwältinnen und Anwälten, für die sich die Volksrepublik China auch rechtlich verpflichtet hat.

Der Präsident des DAV appelliert an Bundesjustizminister Heiko Maas, sich für die chinesischen Kolleginnen und Kollegen einzusetzen. Besonders wichtig sei aus Sicht von Schellenberg, dass dem Einsatz für die Schaffung der anwaltlichen Unabhängigkeit und für sonstige Rahmenbedingungen, die Anwältinnen und Anwälten eine wirkungsvolle Vertretung der Interessen der Mandanten ermöglichen, auch auf politischer Ebene eine höchstmögliche Priorität gerade und insbesondere im deutsch-chinesischen Austausch eingeräumt wird.

Die Behörden werfen den Anwälten vor, eine „kriminelle Vereinigung“ gebildet und „ernsthaft die öffentliche Ordnung“ gestört zu haben. Ihre Maßnahmen stützen die chinesischen Behörden offenbar auf das jüngst erlassene neue „Gesetz zum Schutz der nationalen Sicherheit“, welches international starken Protest ausgelöst hat. Der UN-Hochkommissar für Menschenrechte, Zeid Ra’ad Al Hussein, kritisierte das Sicherheitsgesetz als Einfallstor für Einschränkungen der Bürger- und Menschenrechte und Menschen, die sich für die Rechte anderer auch beruflich einsetzen wie Anwältinnen und Anwälte.

Pressemitteilung vom 16.07.2015 10.44


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 18, 2015, 09:13:56 AM
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Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 18, 2015, 08:26:12 PM
2484 now


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 19, 2015, 01:02:14 AM
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/calling-us-government-cancel-chinese-president-xi-jinpings-visit-us


WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:

Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit to the U.S.
Since the morning of July 10th, the Chinese authorities have begun a large-scale crackdown on human rights lawyers and activists in China. Within two days, over 60 human rights lawyers and activists have been forcefully taken away by the police or “disappeared”. The number is still rising.

Since Xi Jinping came to power, China’s human rights record has kept worsening. Under his reign over 1000 dissidents have been arrested. We urge President Obama and the U.S. government to investigate this case of severe human rights infringement, and, on humanitarian ground, take strong measures to intervene. Xi’s state visit to the U.S. scheduled for September this year should be cancelled, and all official exchanges with the Chinese government should be suspended until this matter is resolved.

Published Date: Jul 11, 2015

Issues: Civil Rights and Liberties, Foreign Policy, Human Rights


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKMiwEBVEAEdox6.jpg


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 19, 2015, 09:07:41 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKQeSfFUkAItuxY.jpg


HONGKONG LAWYERS


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 19, 2015, 09:02:25 PM
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Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: username18333 on July 20, 2015, 02:43:39 AM
*snip*

Quote from: Various,  “Event Horizon,”  Wikipedia
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/BH-no-escape-3.svg
Inside of the event horizon all paths bring the particle closer to the center of the black hole. It is no longer possible for the particle to escape.


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 20, 2015, 07:00:06 PM
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Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 20, 2015, 10:30:16 PM
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Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 20, 2015, 10:53:53 PM
China’s irrepressible lawyers

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By Teng Biao July 19 at 6:55 PM

Teng Biao is a human rights lawyer and a visiting fellow at New York University’s U.S.-Asia Law Institute.

At around 3 a.m. on July 9, human rights lawyer Wang Yu was abducted from her home in Beijing. Her husband, rights defender Bao Longjun, was also disappeared. Wang is renowned in China: She represented Cao Shunli, who died after being denied medical treatment while in custody for her human rights activism; Ilham Tohti, a Uigher scholar unjustly sentenced to life in prison; and protest organizer Wu Gan. In the days since Wang’s arrest, dozens of human rights lawyers and others have been abducted, arrested and disappeared; all told, including those who have been temporarily detained or given warnings, the sweep has targeted more than 200 people in 24 provinces.

This is the biggest crackdown on lawyers in China since the legal system was reestablished in 1980 after the Cultural Revolution.

It is also just part of the purge that President Xi Jinping has carried out against civil society since he came to power in late 2012. Those hit by this comprehensive suppression have included political dissidents, nongovernmental organizations, government petitioners, underground churches, Internet users, news organizations and universities. More than 1,500 rights defenders have been arrested or thrown into jail, including well-known lawyers Xu Zhiyong, Pu Zhiqiang and Tang Jingling.

But this repression has not succeeded at forcing the lawyers into retreat. In the courts, on the Internet and in the streets, China’s human rights lawyers remain active. Since the rights defense movement emerged in 2003, their numbers have grown from dozens to a thousand. They use the legal system to protect the rights and freedoms of citizens, and wield the Internet and media to expose abuses of power and the justice system. There is little doubt that they have become one of the most spirited and active civil forces in China.

As professionals with a thorough understanding of the law and a deep familiarity with political and social conditions, rights lawyers have, case by case, brought together a disparate range of social groups: the victims of forced housing demolitions, legal injustice, forced abortion policies, pollution and poisoned foods and medication; persecuted Christians and Falun Gong practitioners; prisoners of conscience; and many others. China’s rights lawyers are the link between them all.


The Chinese Communist Party sensed from the beginning that rights lawyers were a deep threat and thus has never eased its persecution of them. The brilliant Gao Zhisheng suffered extraordinarily cruel torture after he defended Falun Gong. Others have been thrown into forced labor camps or jail while still others have been abducted or disappeared. Many have simply had their legal licenses revoked. I, too, have been abducted, locked up and tortured.

If they chose, these professionals could reap a substantial salary doing other sorts of legal work — but their belief in the rule of law and liberty and their sense of responsibility leads them to this path. It is one beset by thorns, but it is also full of honor. They win the love and respect of ordinary people and they accumulate social influence. Working together in the battle for human rights, through the relentless persecution, they have formed deep friendships. Using social media, they have brought together an informal organization that can be rapidly mobilized. Every time there’s a serious legal incident, hundreds of them take steps to publicize the matter, mobilize citizens to make their voices heard and, when necessary, dispatch lawyers to take up the case.

Over a decade ago, the Communist Party determined that rights lawyers were an enemy on par with underground religious groups, dissidents and online opinion leaders. So the current purge is no surprise. The security agencies struck just over a week after a new national security law went into effect on July 1 — as though they simply couldn’t wait.

But isn’t there a profound dread lurking behind this barbarism? President Xi has done much to bring back the ideological patterns of the Mao Zedong era, including the recycling of old slogans, the shutting of NGOs, the arrest of dissidents and enhanced controls on the spread of information — all of it is a sign of the party’s deep fear of a color revolution. But the party no longer has the ability to carry out the frantic, Mao-style mobilizations of the past. Its ideology has lost all attraction, and the public’s frustration with the party is growing. People are more willing to criticize the regime in public, and the spread of access to the Internet has stunted the effect of the party’s propaganda.

Increasingly, it’s not just those targeted by the regime that fume: The stock market’s recent crash led even the middle class to fury and disappointment. The party’s attempts to project confidence do little to disguise its panic: It is beset by economic strife, antagonism between officials and the people, corruption, ecological disasters, unrest in Xinjiang and Tibet, and its own sense of ideological crisis.


Compared with all of this, the rights lawyer and civil society activists are gaining in prestige, influence and communications and organizational capacity. Little wonder they keep the party up at night.

The arrests of the past week mark an important historical moment in China’s legal profession. It’s likely that, just as in the past, those who were disappeared are being tortured. But this crackdown won’t silence the rights lawyers, and it won’t stop the march toward human rights and dignity in China. Rights lawyers will rise from the ashes with an even deeper sense of their historical responsibility.

Not long after coming to power in 1949, the Communist Party extinguished the legal profession almost entirely — for more than 20 years there were no lawyers, and the country was engulfed in chaos. Does Xi and the party wish to relive the nightmare of lawlessness of those years? When will they release China’s prisoners of conscience?

When Xi visits the United States this year, these are the questions that President Obama ought to put to him.


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 21, 2015, 08:39:28 PM
although Xi was invited by Obama today on phone talk to confirm September visit, this thread must be up daily!



shame on you Obama, you are asshole  >:(


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 25, 2015, 07:10:49 AM
UP >:(


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 25, 2015, 06:23:48 PM
Obama is Chamberlain


Title: Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t
Post by: msc_de on July 25, 2015, 08:50:12 PM
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