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Title: Israel and Saudi Arabia present united front over Iran deal
Post by: Chef Ramsay on July 15, 2015, 02:51:45 AM
Israel and the Sunni Arab world have set aside old grievances to stand together against the West’s engagement with Iran.

The more strident denunciations came from Israel, which regards Iran as a direct threat. Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister, said the country would not be bound by what he called a "stunning historic mistake".

"Israel is not bound by this deal with Iran," he said in a televised address hours after the conclusion of the accord. "Iran continues to seek our destruction and we will defend ourselves."

More...http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/11739349/Israel-and-Saudi-Arabia-present-united-front-over-Iran-deal.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/11739349/Israel-and-Saudi-Arabia-present-united-front-over-Iran-deal.html)


Title: Re: Israel and Saudi Arabia present united front over Iran deal
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on July 15, 2015, 06:10:40 AM
Watched some Charlie Rose
It looks like the negotiations made sense since they were close enough to building the nuclear weapon that if they did not interfere they would either need to allow Iran to have the arms or declare a war against a nuclear power.
Its less costly and more effective than another war.


Title: Re: Israel and Saudi Arabia present united front over Iran deal
Post by: Spendulus on July 15, 2015, 11:06:58 AM
Watched some Charlie Rose
It looks like the negotiations made sense since they were close enough to building the nuclear weapon that if they did not interfere they would either need to allow Iran to have the arms or declare a war against a nuclear power.
Its less costly and more effective than another war.
What you just said made zero sense.  Maybe because Rose made zero sense?


Title: Re: Israel and Saudi Arabia present united front over Iran deal
Post by: White sugar on July 15, 2015, 02:36:26 PM
Now that Iran is tamed they should talk with the single nuclear potency of the Middle East that don't follow the international nuclear laws, Israel


Title: Re: Israel and Saudi Arabia present united front over Iran deal
Post by: Wilikon on July 15, 2015, 02:40:10 PM
Now that Iran is tamed they should talk with the single nuclear potency of the Middle East that don't follow the international nuclear laws, Israel


"Tamed"?

What kind of new force did you need to unite the saudis and israel? The "taming energy"?




Title: Re: Israel and Saudi Arabia present united front over Iran deal
Post by: White sugar on July 15, 2015, 03:18:09 PM
Now that Iran is tamed they should talk with the single nuclear potency of the Middle East that don't follow the international nuclear laws, Israel


"Tamed"?

What kind of new force did you need to unite the saudis and israel? The "taming energy"?




The enemy of my enemy is my friend energy ???



Title: Re: Israel and Saudi Arabia present united front over Iran deal
Post by: Wilikon on July 15, 2015, 03:42:38 PM
Now that Iran is tamed they should talk with the single nuclear potency of the Middle East that don't follow the international nuclear laws, Israel


"Tamed"?

What kind of new force did you need to unite the saudis and israel? The "taming energy"?




The enemy of my enemy is my friend energy ???




Translation: This is a bad deal.




Title: Re: Israel and Saudi Arabia present united front over Iran deal
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on July 17, 2015, 07:10:23 AM
Watched some Charlie Rose
It looks like the negotiations made sense since they were close enough to building the nuclear weapon that if they did not interfere they would either need to allow Iran to have the arms or declare a war against a nuclear power.
Its less costly and more effective than another war.
What you just said made zero sense.  Maybe because Rose made zero sense?

Charlie Rose was doing a documentary on the Iran deal yesterday on PBS so my comment might have been a bit confusing.

To sum it up the interview I watched said that if the USA did nothing then there would be a new nuclear power, this deal pushes the clock back 10-15 years and argued that negotiation is a lot cheaper than invading Iran and could get more done due to increased monitoring that and they have Veto powers.

Sum it up cheaper than a war and Netanyahu should back off since the Americans are saying it will make them look silly to stop now.

One I was watching
http://www.charlierose.com/watch/60589684
(9:30 on) (13:47-14:20 for the statement I mentioned)
Nethanyahu (15:00 - End)

Some related links
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-07-01/nuclear-negotiations-with-iran-charlie-rose-07-01-
Can also view it on their website (There were a few episodes on Iran)
http://www.charlierose.com/schedule
http://www.charlierose.com/watch/60590382








Title: Re: Israel and Saudi Arabia present united front over Iran deal
Post by: Ingatqhvq on July 17, 2015, 08:40:15 AM
Sure, they will prevent the deal. But Obama need Iran to against IS. So the deal is a good deal.