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Hi, I want to know what's the best strategy when playing dice if I have 10 BTC bankroll and want to make 40 BTC.
I know only Martingale, and that's bullshit strategy so I was just randomly betting and lost so much.

There's not a single strategy that will effectively turn your 10 BTC to 40 BTC. Everything is you do has tons of risk and a big element of randomness, basically luck.

My very first bit of advice is to limit your monthly gambling. Gamble only with 1 BTC per month, once that BTC is consumed in gambling, with or without profits stop for the next month, repeat.

I know there's not a 100% safe strategy, but I want to know what strategy do you use?

The higher your total wagered amount, the lower the chance you are going to achieve your goal.
So an all-in 4x bet is far better than using martingale or any strategy requiring you to wager a lot.

For me when i play dice i always use martingale and i rarely loss my balance, you just need to know when to stop and sometimes send some part of your balance to your main wallet for it to be safe incase long red streak comes

What's your bankroll and how big is your first bet? How big bets should I do if I have 10 BTC?


I won't do this. I did it 2 times and lost badly. First bet was 50% and second was 70%. Both lost. I lost like 0.30 BTC..

I only deposit .1btc to gamble with .001 or .0001 base bet in 47% sometimes. If i get .01 or .02 i stop and thay only takes about 15mins of my time.

simply, there can't be any safe strategy to win in casino.

majority of games are based on pure luck and not on skill and additionaly, there is always something called house edge (more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_game#House_advantage), so even you are "winning" you potentially loosing every single game at least something.

I recommend you to try it, put in some small amount like 0.1 BTC and roll couple of times. if you will win something, withdraw and leave it forever, if you will loose, just leave it forever. gamling is fine until you are actually enjoying the game and you don't have main focus on profit. once you are blind with profit, is time to leave it..

Okey thanks. Now I have to get 0.1 BTC since I lost everything -.- but thanks again I will try it.

better to learn trading or poker with bitcoin, there is some skill involved at least, and they aren't 100% luck contrary to the general belief

with poker there should be some freeroll where you can earn some free btc(don't expect too much but still b etter than nothing) and then playing with those coins

But I have to wager it like 100x for withdraw and it's not worth it..

Those wagering requirements from most casino is only for deposit bonuses. You arent required to wager xx times if you didnt get any bonuses

But I don't know how to play poker, it's too hard for me...

I would suggest you to move this thread to "Gambling" board.

Go to 4x payout and do a single bet. Nothing will be better or safer, and will save your time

yes,agree with you
dont play with martiangle again  :-\

I said I won't do this again. Never.

Im using martingale. My strategy is when I hit the winnings by 4 losses Im resting for about 2hours before trying again. When quota reached I will try again tomorrow. My quota is only 200k satoshis/day. Good additional earnings besides sigcampaign for newbies like me.

Theres no safe strategy for dice game. but what I can suggest is to study patterns.  
Although this isn't still a hundred % safe, this will give you an idea what may come out next.

Actually, contrary to popular belief a properly designed martingale sequence will out-perform an all-in bet (assuming a fixed house edge, like dice).

Here is an an maths-oriented example:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=939776.msg10529739#msg10529739


The intuitive explanation for why this works, is it allows you to stop gambling earlier thus minimizing the amount you wager. The less you wager, the less your expected loss and the more probability of winning.

What do you mean by "study patterns"? What exactly should I do?

Same as martingale . But like everyone posted here there is no safe strategy in dice. Just run if you hit the jackpot then try again in 1 week lol.

Totally delusional because there is no such thing as "studying the pattern". You should know that each bet is dependant and random, there is no such pattern because it varies for all of your bet. This so called "patten" doesnt exist in online gambling especially dice.

There is only 1 game that have a "pattern" which is a roulette wheel in a land casino and that only occur if the wheel is biased . Biased roulette wheel have a tendency to land the ball in a specific area however that is not exactly a "pattern" because it may not land on the specific area each time plus that biased wheel will be quickly taken down and switched with a new one immediately

Very interesting thread. Just posting here to get updates from this, want to make some BTC back too! :)

Well probably this is the fastest* way to boost your bitcoin but this is the fastest way also to lose all your bitcoins. If you feel lucky control it and take time to have a rest. Im usually playing dice game and I lose several times already. But in every lose I take it as a experience. Today , when I feel lucky and reached enough prizes I dont let my greeds eat me completely.

If you want really profit, 100 bits starting bet, 5x onloss 25% it should be safe enough to make small profit in short run...
but if you really wanna profit, you must learn poker, more profitable than dice.
Dice is for the lazy.

Are there any online tutorials for poker? What site would you suggest me to play on?

Any strategy will be fine martingale, Fibonacci  anything if you know how to manage the bets. never keep on gambling if you are winning. and if you loose dont get desparate to recover all in same day. have patience and be satisfied in small wins. if you try to convert 10 btc to 40 btc in a day you will probably end up loosing all your money.

You got it : "never keep on gambling if you are winning. and if you loose dont get desparate to recover all in same day. have patience and be satisfied in small wins". Winning streak is the turning point in a dice game. If you dont control while your on winning streak well definitely you'll end up loosing.

Well, SWC poker is where I would let you play http://swcpoker.eu/
For the tutorials you need much practise.
I can do a minitutorial for you.
I would consider Omaha, which is 4 cards dealt in your hand, and you must pick the 2 best that works with the 5 on the board.
Best hand you should almost glorify are AA KK QQ JJ.
Hands that are mh: 1010 99 88 77
Lower hands are just risky.

Thats the basic for being the most tighest man in the world.
But in omaha is more elastic as a thing, because anything can happen and make you win with the strangest hands.
If you want a fast and practical tutor of poker, PM me I'll teach you via skype anything you will need

Edit: I setted it as simple as possible, but i will explain you better via skype how to decide if a hand is good to go or to trash it right as you see it

Umm as far as I know OP asked about dice stratergies not poker.

As Far as I know OP asked me a question about poker.

Best thing you can do is bet 10 BTC on a 25%er 1 in 4 chance single bet.  This way you limit your exposure to the house edge the most.  After that all you need is luck :)

but if you will not gambling after a small profit, you will not be able to win big, in my opinion if you will have to loose you will loose no matter whether you will stop or not

Well agree on this too. Bottom line here is accept whatever happen after you play :) And most important treat gambling just for fun.


I just wondered what will be my feeling if I lose that BTC10.                                                          

Your feeling would be like if you lose your smartphone with all your contacts... sadness for a while...until you buy a new phone and ask to people you know to give you their numbers again.

Best winning strategy I know is too not play dice games.

I lost BTC0.05 earlier in a local basketball game and I feel like I lost BTC0.5. So I can't imagine what will be the feeling if I lose BTC10.


Nice. This is the most "Good and relatively safe dice strategy". :)

I lost 0.3 BTC in Clam and I feel like I lost my life. :D

Believe me when I say, every loss is felt as a big one, because we wanted a nice win on there... plus... if you worked hard for those money you will feel more weight if it's lost.

"Good and relatively safe dice strategy?"

Buy a casino.  ;)

the best way is to go all in bet, by doing that you will either win or loose, as there is no such thing as a reliable strategy if you want to earn so much

Really, with 10 btc you can buy a dice site completed, with scrypt, hosting ecc and for start you can accept investor

That's not that easy you know :)

The best strategy is to be lucky.
Ok if you wan't to quadrupple your btc you can do 2 2x bets or 4 4x bets with 5 btc
That way you will split the risk.
However you will most likely loose your money.
If you wan't zero risk then just don't gamble, hold your coins,
bitcoin is deflationary by nature so you will increase your wealth in the long run.

also you can invest it into some sort of hyips what might give you the profit even though the risks are also high, i believe its a bit smaller than gambling it all

There is no such thing, I had "safe strategy", got to +20BTC and then lost it all with the same strategy within minutes.

What was your strategy?

Totally wrong on this because it has been proven that going all in is not the best thing to do to get any profit (references below). Dooglus made a good calculation on the probability for you to win X amount by going all in or splitting up your bets into few smaller bets and turns out the probability is higher by splitting out into smaller bets

P.S : I cant find it , turns out harder than expected to dig through Dooglus' post



Turns out there is but it just that people tend to turn away from this and keep gambling on blindly while there is actually a way to gamble on smartly . Turns the edge lower by getting the advantages of promotions and such . Even much better is that you can turn it to be +EV

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You dont need 10 BTC to start your own dice site if you use the following things below

Free script from Dan's Untitled Dice : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1062680.0
Moneypot's API and its bankroll  ( 211 BTC currently ) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020726.0

What you need next would be to get yourself a domain, couple of BTC and you can get a decent one from namecheap and that probably cost you less than $50

patterns? we are talking about dice game here, with provably fair principle behind. (at least, I hope so)

..there are no tricks and your success ratio (win/loose) just depends on luck, amount of rolls and house edge. there is no clear pattern, strategy, guide, black magic or hack..but one thing is quite clear. basically doesn't matter what is your luck, only matters if you know when to stop...simply because you are loosing money (bitcoin) by every rool (cause house edge), as I explained earlier.

just try to read at least something about it, before recommending such non-sense as "study patterns" in dice games..

Secure , not martingale. i have play other years with martingale strategy and later xx bet lose, the internet connection down and interrupt a games

That's total bullshit. Nobody would use your site. You need a custom script, CUSTOM! Just check some ANN threads of the Moneypot sites. Full of hate like "Oh my gash, another Moneypot clone" and this..

Who the hell cares anyways, all dices are clones because you cant really do anything new to a dice site, i dont really understand whats with the hype for dice sites, its no fun and you have house edge so whats the point?

And please dont turn this thread into another spam thread, the answer has been given already stop typing the same thing over and over

@ burger kill : Custom : script? This is funny, first time i see someone saying dice needs custom script :D . Dice need a dice script not custom script. The script is always the same and you can only change your UI . Lol very stupid  and dan's script is free and bug less

@xinxan : if you want people to stop posting here , start from yourself lol

the safest way to get profit in casinos is either to own a casino yourself as people will loose money to you, or invest to the main funds of the casino

Stop with this "Buy a casino" bullshit. I asked what strategies do you use on dice sites.

" buy a casino " is a strategy as well. You should have asked what is your betting strategies in dice sites

I think dont exist 100% safe strategy on dice.

You need to use dice sites for fun this is the best strategy

 ;D ;D

That's why I said "relatively safe", god.

Mathematically a single martingale sequence is the best and safest way to play on any dice site no matter what house edge, you can find more details on the "does martingale really works" thread.

Other than that all the strategies are the same, literally they all suck equally

yeah it is a strategy but its easy to understand that op asked for betting strategies and people now are trolling with suggestions to buy a casino :D

and you are trolling / spamming by replying my not important post as well

What about this:

Chance: 30%
Payout: 3.3x
Base bet: 0.0001

If you lose one bet do the same amount again. If you lose your 2nd bet increase amount by 2x and again. So if you are unlucky and losing, it will be 0.0001, 0.0001, 0.0002, 0.0002, 0.0003, 0.0003 until you win. This wouldn't work if you have really long loss streak, because it won't give you back the full amount you spend on betting, but with up to like 8 bets it can make good money. What do you think about this strategy? Somebody was talking about this in the Rollin.io chat.

There is no strategy at dice sites to turn 10 Btc into 40 Btc by playing where the house edge exist, any losing streak can get you in total lose so if you have luck than anything can happen and you you can do that with this.

mate, even you had obviously good intentions to help or somehow invent new strategy, please realize 2 CORE FACTS:

1* with higher amount of rolls is increasing possibility with fatal bad luck - like 10 looses in row.
2* there is ALWAYS house edge, this means that by EVERY ROLL, YOU ARE LOOSING (even you won)

considering those 2 facts, best "strategy" is just hit and run the the site, for example try 10 rolls using martingale and leave regardless the result. clearly, if you stay longer, you will loose everything..

I shake my head every time I see people trying to describe supposed 'winning strategies'. None of it works, none of it is fool proof. Rolling dice is gambling, it's supposed to be fun. There are no guaranteed ways to win. Martingale is a load of rubbish.

Trust me, just gamble with small amounts, have fun & don't get yourself in financial difficulties by betting big & chasing a dream that aint happening. It'll just turn into a nightmare. You will have spells of good luck & spells of bad luck, just make sure you enjoy the good times & make sure you're not losing much money during the bad times.

Try to register on facebook and search for poker games. All games there is free so you dont have to pay while learning

Now let's go away from dice sites. What about blackjack? I know how to play it, well, everyone knows. Any good Bitcoin casino?

or if you still want to try gambling, binary options can be profitable. there's a large house edge on payouts to compensate for this, but if yu know what youre doing profiting is definitely possible in the long run.

Try Playtodos - http://playtodos.com/GameDownload.aspx - Great new casino if you're into Poker, Bingo etc.

- Free bonus every day
- Instant withdrawals

You need to get your hands on betterbets.io because they are a great BTC casino (especially known for their super fast dice rolls and amazing plinko ) however they have no BlackJack .

If you are looking for BTC casino with BlackJack then you can possibly try bitcoinrush.io as they have BlackJack .

Just for references because your thread is about strategy so I would suggest to follow up this strategy

http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/strategy/calculator/

This is as references to calculate the house edge of the house because each house has a different BlackJack rules that might differ the edge

http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/calculator/

How to use the calculator?

I'm not an expert, but there can't be a strategy to gamble against a casino. They have the house edge, so they will always win.
If you want to try to make profit by gambling I suggest you invest in poker or sports bet. You can use skill on those games, but you can't use skill on a casino. The only thing you can do in a casino is to accept that if everything goes normal you will lose lol.
If you are ok with that then go for it, have fun, and sometimes you will be lucky and enjoy it even further xD

I absolutely have no idea which calculator are you referring to so I will just answer both of them.

For the strategy calculator, you simply put in the general rules of the house like Soft17 rules, number of decks and ability to double after split ( more of this is available on the site ). As I have stated that each house has a different rules as some sites allow double after split while some dont

After you put in the general rules , you simply follow the pattern listed on the site. All sort of information is available there and you will just need to follow the pattern of when to hit, stand or either double your bet*

FYI, hard means no ace on your hands while soft means there is an ace on your hands ( ace counts as either one or eleven )

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As for the house edge calculator, this is the same thing as the strategy calculator however this is just used to know the house edge of the house ( different rules = different house edge ). Therefore with this calculator , you can find a house with the lowest house edge to ensure higher chance to win *

*Disclaimer : lucks play a vital part in gambling as these strategies might also fail

Hi, as others have said, there is no guaranteed winning strategy against dice.  Every roll, taken in isolation, the math is against you.  So you should lose in the long run.  Some people get lucky, its true.  But the odds are not on your side.  I agree that the best strategy might be to do jus tone roll.

But, unless you are rich, please do not do this!  I hate to see someone lose so much coin at once to a casino.  I look at a casino, or ANY type of betting, as entertainment.  So I won't spend more then I would at other types of entertainment, such as dinner and a movie.

Good luck!

Try Bitstarz they've been around for a long time now and they have good website design with features.

The only way to win at dice is to deposit money, bet at 2x, (hopefully) win, run with profit, and never return again. If you come back, you will eventually lose.

( My opinion )

That's total bullshit. There must be a strategy - I don't mean 100% win, but just normal tactic.

When you want to play a dice, you don't deposit 10 BTC and go all-in with 2x payout, do you? No, you don't, even if you are addicted to gambling. That won't work, if you win, you will be the happiest guy in the world for some time and if you lose you will want to own Time Machine and return back. Peace bro.

I think is better stay out of Dice, if you have that big amount bankroll,
go play live casino or sportbet would be much more safe IMO.

but GAMBLE is always with risk...

Better you bet sportbooks its easy if you want get 4x just find 3 or 4 match but if you want try with dice game. Im positive you will lose your money

The only Good and Safest strategy to win at dice is don't play. But seriously there isn't one sure way of winning, if there were everyone would get rich by now. It's gambling, it is suppose to be based on chance, you roll the dice, you either get lucky or you don't. There isn't any formulas for it and you can play a 1000 rolls or go all in on the first one the chances of winning or losing remain the same because every roll is independent and even if you had 20-30 reds that doesn't mean that the next one will be green.

You should gamble for fun but not hoping to get profit in a dice game.
If you really want to get profit, find a game with some skill involved that you are good at.

Dice is the best if you have a giant bankroll to play with, if you have pennies like most of us do, it's worthless only if you have luck for about 30 minutes straight and you reach like 1 btc...

Unfortunately that strategy is no better than martingale or any other strategy.

Lets say you have 0.01 bitcoins and you start with your base bet, you would need to lose 19 times in a row to bust, now that seems a lot, but is it really? Lets see:

The chances are 0.0060935974001% or in other words 1 in 16.000~ so every 16k bets you are theoretically loosing 19 times in a row, the money you get before the bust its not enough to cover the 0.01 loss, this happens with martingale as well and all other strategies.

You aren't going to make 40 BTC from 10 BTC dicing, most likely you will lose it all if you expect such profits. If you seriously want to turn 10 BTC into 40, and aren't afraid to lose, gamble 10 BTC on 4x payout. If you get lucky you get your coins, if you aren't lucky you lose them.

Realistically there aren't any strategies, people use different styles of play and if they win they think it is working but it is not the truth but just an illussion, you have to accept the fact that some days you lose and some days.. you lose more lol. But even if someone had a "so called" good strategy and it was working, do you really think they would reveal it publically?

in dice there is technically no good or relatively safe strategy that an give you 4x profit. none of the strategies are guaranteed and you will always lose at some point. but people have some luck with some strategy and call it safe and profitable until they lose big!

i think the only strategy that can be good profit from gambling is betting in a game that is skill based instead of being based on luck. something like poker.

I can confirm this. I tried many strategies and various approaches, maybe there are different ways while playing real dice but when playing in virtual casino I could not  find any strategies to be effective.
But if you want to know more about professional Dice Strategies you can read this article about Dice Strategy: http://www.chessandpoker.com/dice_strategy_guide.html (http://www.chessandpoker.com/dice_strategy_guide.html)

There is pretty much no safe stragey but there are low risk. Basicallly if you have a million dollars you can probably safety win $1.

However its possible to get 40x loses in a row and lose that million just to win $1.

i doubt that anyone would risk million dollars just to win 1 as it would still have some risks, though it would be easier to do all in bet to win that dollar on small loose chance

Since it's so easy to start a dice site I would expect to see the quality of dice sites also diminish.  Or at least the diversity since they would follow a cookie-cutter template and API.  That's good for small entrepreneurs to have the support from moneypot but I worry about the dilution of the game.

for me i use 0.00000001 X3 bet gain and if lost add 60% and it work if you have a lucky dday

Agreed. You are pretty much better off just putting the money in a savings account and letting the interest accumulate or buying a business.

that's called martingale, and I would never call it safe. here's a fantastic strategy for you op, just stay off of dice sites.

small amounts to mid odds between 1.3 and 1.4 that's what I think it's relatively safe

I guess it is safe enough if you do it slowly, like set the max winning. 0.01 per day is great amount if you can manage it well so stay off from dice site is not a good idea since you can earn much from dice site. Usually I use martingale or roll manually, depends on my luck

Ask arallmuus in betterbets.io chat he can give u like 6 diff ones to use with their bots.

i have been using a lot of martingale strategies lately with a somewhat big bankroll and starting from 0.00000001 BTC and with different sorts of multiplier to have lower or higher chances of wining and as a result different increases to cover the loses .

but in dice martingale no matter what sort of martingale strategy i choose i always end up losing more in just one second where i roll all reds.

all strategy are going to lose in seconds or minutes coz eventually you're going to hit a bad luck.. Its just calling when to stop and get out in profit..

yeah i know but i have a plan to test different ways to use martingale just for the fun of it. i have invested some bitcoin and i am putting a lot of time to test my theories .

p.s. my theories was not successful so far :D

Like someone said,best strategy for a dice site is owning one,but you must always be active and develop it further and make it better every time.

gamble for fun? Yeah it's looks easier said than done.
when we are in the game and got loses, no more fun.
there is just stressed out, and desire to get back, play again with mess condition.
That's Psychological problems that must be faced. To stay in the positive balance track.

Theory , strategy , there's no such thing as that to win in a dice game. The best way to do is to stay out of that game. If you still want to play then rest everytime you hit some profit even it is small amount then go back another day or in the next 5 hours. And lastly don't let your greed eats you.

If you have a great bankroll may be you can get a dice site. Or may be you will have someone support your back to pay when whale got big payout. But I never saw dice site close except no people playing there  ;D



Some people lose they will always laugh because there will no burden for him because he is playing it for fun although when he losing it. I ever saw someone lose almost 1 btc in dice site but he still laughing and never stress out and in a few days he like profit +2 btc, may be that is luck  ;D

If you want to get from 10 btc to 40 btc, just bet on 4x.
That is actually the "safest" way to get to it, because you are only hit with the 1% house edge once.
If you keep betting, the 1% house edge adds up and you will slowly lose money.
If you are lucky enough to make it to 40 btc, you will do it in that bet, but there is ~75% chance you will lose.
Nothing is "good and relatively safe", its all your luck.

Making one single 4x bet will yield a near-optimum result with very little effort and time consumed.
On the other hand, you can carefully construct just one round of martingale bets to get slightly better chance of winning.

For details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=939776.msg10529739#msg10529739

Why is this thread keep popping into my updated topics? Page 1 has all the answers needed there is no point in keeping this discussion.

This.  Unless you have an unlimited bank roll there is no plan that can always get back to even.  If you always had funds for double or nothing you would eventuality win. 

you need at least 0.02 btc in balance and do 0.00000001 bet in X3 bet and in lose add 75% it will make a great profit faster

This is not true. That's no strategy but just yolo bet. You won't do this if you have 10 BTC and want to get to 40 BTC. This is actually the worst "strategy" ever and only dumbass can do it.
Who the fuck would bet all his money on 25% win chance? No strategy? Learn to play, wiliamj

Poker is actually 99% skill, 1% luck. Too many people focus on winning hands. You don't need the best hand; you just need to know when your opponent doesn't have it and make them THINK you do. Once you get that down, you can play blind, because it no longer matters what cards you have.

The best strategy is either be lucky or not gamble!
There is a house edge wich makes it impossible to win in the long run.
Gambling is based on luck. And luck has nothing to do with strategy.

yeah i know but it's the best way in dice bet i think it's so risky but i don't know beter

The best and safest strategy is to open a dice site and get bankroll from "investors".
This way your profit is guarantee with the house edge and your risk is shared among other people.

Profit is absolutely not guaranteed. A whale can tank the entire bankroll, causing a full loss of finances. The idea that you're guaranteed to win as the bankroll is just as delusional as thinking martingale is a fool-proof strategy.

This won't work for him, if we say that there's no a whale with 1000 BTC bankroll for 1 BTC bets and enough luck to take your whole bankroll off, there are so much new dice sites which no one uses. I wouldn't recommend this, Nyau.

Well after reading some comments here , my pick is to stay out of a dice game. I believe there is no strategy.

There's not. And even with an infinite bankroll, you'll hit the site's win cap at some point, which will leave you with a net loss. So regardless of what you do, you're on a losing path.

everybody is looking for some sort of strategy to win an profit from their bitcoin but so far it looks like that there is not even one strategy that can work 100% of the time.

or even if there is a good strategy out there , the one that is using it is not willing to share with others about his winnings.

He said it like 5 times, he is not talking about 100% safe strategy, but anout what are you people using. If you have any specific strategy you use when playing dice just post it here so we can all see it and use it. Thanks.

after reading some of the comments looks like everybody is desperate around here :)

If you don't need 100% safe, then martingale it is. Choose your % of success, increase your bet by (moneylost/amountyoudwin).

i.e.:

Bet at 2x, on fail, increase x2
Bet at 1.02x, on fail, increase x50

As you go to lower multipliers, the cost of the increase is bigger (in the second case, for example, you go 1 -> 50 -> 2500 -> 100k+), but in theory, you probably won't lose 10x in a row with a 98% chance.

Not a higher chance on winning than the regular winning odds on dice (in other words expected return is smaller)

then what is the point of calling something a strategy when it is not 100% safe.
using a method that has a chance to lose , makes it a guaranteed loss so it is not a strategy it is just fooling yourself with a lot of unnecessary additional steps to lose in the end.

i think it is better to bet normally and win / lose normally too instead of just looking for "strategies"! :)

The simple fact that the house always has an edge in ANY game, in your mind, means that there is never a strategy for playing anything. Or a strategy for winning baseball games because you won't win them all. Or a strategy for building a business, since one might fail. That's an asinine thought process.

i know that. maybe i shouldn't have used 100% to mislead you.

all i am saying is there is no good or even relatively safe strategy when it comes to dice gambling. as  ranlo pointed out there is a hose edge on top of that which makes any strategy pointless in dice.

and as far as strategies go, you should look into other kinds of gambling like poker for example which at least requires some skill and is not completely chance based.

Yes, poker is good, but if you never played it it's hard to learn how to play poker.. is there any easy tutorial? And with "easy" I mean it's easy to read for newbies, so nothing for experts :) I never played poker but I want to learn it.

there was a thread about the best way to reach your goal when you are playing dice
all agreed that there is no good strategy and the best thing is to wager few bets , so if you want to make 40 btc you shoul wager that 10 btc on X4
this seems insane but mathematically this is the best way

Agree this is the best way if they want to earn fast. Bet a high amount then wage it for x4 in one roll . After clicking close your eyes then slowly opened it. Wish you luck.                                                                             

Unfortunately OP will not do this way, as he said that he had tried it twice already and he lost badly. I think bet all the 10btc on x4 in is not the best way, but it is just the fastest way. IMHO fastest way does not mean the best way.  :)

Chances of having many bets will lead to much worst depression if he'll lose. So much better to put all of his guts in one roll then wait for the output. Time saving also lol.                                                                                     

There are no good strategy in all gambling, there is only chance. At least with some strategy we can minimalize our lose or may be you can win big enough and there is a chance to control your money flow, rather than bet normally which give you high and lose control when you are losing



To get 40 btc using 10btc and try to hit 4x is a bad idea and you will end it fast without knowing. Better get some strategy or play it safe, although it is slow using some strategy but at least it is worth a try rather than keep hitting on x4 chances. And there is so much good strategy out there to keep you on playing chances game like dice

it's not just the fastest mate , literally it's the best even most of people here won't like it even me
I consider wagering 10% of that amount is insane , but mathematically it's the best way if you want to hit a goal so badly
I can't find the thread that I'm talking about , but it was provided with numbers and it was comparing between hitting the goal with 10 bets and 1 bet
it showed that when you wager only one bet then you are having the best odds to hit your goal since