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You've really got to stop lying.

Theymos or some mod, can't you please ban this 'tard? I published a letter to shareholders containing a NAV of 0.033 more than three weeks ago. And before that CPA was worth 0.06 for quite some time. All of the reasons were disclosed in letters to shareholders. The very fact that bitcoins rose from $5 to $12 meant that holding a BFL single as an asset would cause us to lose over 50% of our value in bitcoins. For example.

Considering the fact that we lost half our value solely due to the bitcoin price increase and we are now 0.04 and not 0.05, after paying out over 2,000 in claims on pirate and matthew, one would think we were doing a good job. In fact, perhaps that is the point. Several people have suggested to me that Puppet, deprived, and eskimobob are attempting to manipulate the stock price. EskimoBob admits he was approached to discredit people on the forums (and yet I seem to be the only one being attacked discredited). I have it on good authority he is being paid to do this. He needs to be removed from this board permanently. This is NOT the only example of Puppet lying.

He has previously made many other false claims about CPA and my businesses such as "NYAN.A lost 38% of it's NAV" and so on and so forth. Additionally, he blows everything out of proportion, such as if someone sells down one of my stocks he immediately posts that it's plummeting in value, the scam is about to be exposed, and so on. I know trolls are trolls, but this isn't trolling. It is my position that this is in fact a type of criminal fraud where someone issues malicious slander in order to achieve financial gain.

This has gotten to the point where it is actually starting to affect my business. One person who was going to invest 300 BTC pulled out because of what Puppet wrote and that he was going to "wait and see if Puppet was right".

Fuck this lying asshole.

I'm getting really sick of people like Puppet (who is probably EskimoBob, based on what he has said). This is a shitty place to do business. It's worse than IRC.

Can someone ban this guy until he learns how to behave.

Or should I say "she learns"? So are you Serena or Oliver? I wonder who is the liar around here.

I fail to see how the numbers posted are inaccurate.  It is somewhat misleading as the 0.10 price last week was a spike up from 0.03, but is factually correct and certainly not libel.

Hell, half the time I wonder whether it's Maria given the crap it spews.

I wish I could invest in BTC-Drama. I'd be rich after half a day.

It might have been criminally intended, but I seriously doubt it. I'm not a big fan of your accounting or business models, and generally find myself in agreement with Puppet. I have nothing to gain or lose from my stance, as i have no money invested in your companies, nor anything invested in them. I have serious concerns about your management of money, and, just like I would state my opinion of any other public company, I'll state my opinion of yours.

It's only a shitty place to do business for the people who aren't on the up and up. It looks like the people who are sane, honest, and straightforward don't really have shitstorms to deal with. In fact, my sole remaining GLBSE investment is run by someone who I have NEVER seen embroiled in a shitstorm, certainly not about his own assets.

Stating numeric facts about your company is hardly slander or libel. Pointing out that you've grossly misrepresented your finances would be, except it's true, and he's pointing out either mismanagement or criminal intent. I completely agree with puppet, and have been hinting at this for some months now (as in, since you showed up and got registered on gribble, after my repeated insistence) I didn't think you were a wise investor then, and I have not changed my opinion.

Just because you published a letter claiming a certain NAV doesn't make your claim honest or true.

What has changed? You continue to absorb wealth in this community, and, much like Diablo, you are running the value into the ground.

Then, instead of responding calmly and clearing up and confusion, or misconceptions, your FREAK OUT, insist on scammer tags, call people names, and avoid answering any questions about your businesses, preferring instead to berate people who ask them. More and more, I'd say you sound like Goat's sockpuppet. But you're not, he wouldn't invest in the garbage you have.

And finally - this is no joke, and makes me think you are 100% SCAMMER

You won't tell us your real name or gender. (and who the fuck cares if you've IDed to nefario, his trust is out the fucking window with much of this community) ID to US. Or I'll will have to presume that you're trying to lie, and scam us. Period. I'm absolutely relentless when I think someone is dishonest. If your accounting wasn't enough to make me think you're up to no good, this certainly is.

In short, I think you are a significant danger to investors and I will voice that opinion until you get a court injunction against me. (I suppose you could get a mod to silence me on the forum, but not on IRC)

You have several people saying the same things and no one defending your position usagi.  Your accounting doesn't stand up to scrutiny, and it looks like the house of cards is about to collapse.

It's good someone chose to think before investing a large amount of BTC with you. You express your profit in terms of USD when you denominate everything in BTC. Very disingenuous, at best. Most likely, that person would have to settle for a net reduction in BTC and a USD gain that was smaller than holding BTC in cold storage. Probably a good thing for the investor.

The one making false claims and blowing things out of proportion is you usagi. It becomes more and more clear with each day, and your growing hysteria.

Let me introduce you to a real Usagi, guy who looks for people to attack other securities  

IRC 2012.09.25

And this is what I posted to show what a scumbag Usagi actually is:


And so on.

So, your honest Usagi is actually a scumbag who is willing to pay for users to troll hes competition, while he wastes your hard earned coin on questionable "investments"

You have good authority? Really? Please prove it. Usagi,  you are a delusional and a liar. I have never scammed you nor anyone else here.
Unless you have proof, STFU and get your act together. This is getting beyond pathetic.
 

Just so we are clear on who is who is this world of accusations... isn't usagi also the person behind the OBSI family or rapidly diminishing funds?

Im trying to understand what Im being accused of here. Is my math wrong? Are those numbers incorrect? Do you own a copyright to that picture?

I picked those number because you proudly pronounced on IRC that by buying back 10 of your own shares you had pushed up the price 0.1 BTC. I laughed at you because you thought it was actually meaningfull. One week and 16000 repurchased shares later and now its clear how meaningless it was.

Now, you mention your letter to shareholders, I could have used that too. Your words:
"The shining stars are now CPA, which has doubled in valuation to 0.0613 since last week, and BMF which has now jumped to an average price of .5901. "
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97178.msg1213796#msg1213796

So let use that. You announced an aggressive repurchase plan because you felt your shares where undervalued. Here is what happened:

52500 x 0.063  = 3307

three weeks later:

36160 x 0.034 =1229

What was your point again? Oh right, the reason I actually posted that in the first place:


ROFL

BTW, the thread title mentions libel.
Now I dont know if libel should warrant a scammer tag or not, but not only has usagi  failed to demonstrate any libel on my part, he is IMO quite guilty of libel himself.

Anyone can call me an idiot, a sockpuppet or troll, and I dont really care, but there is a line somewhere, and he crossed it:


Thats a pretty serious accusation in my book, and 100% baseless. When asked to back that up, I drew a blank of course, only more of the same accusations:



The latter is true of course, but I am still waiting for any shred of evidence of any single lie I would have uttered, let alone evidence of me being paid to spread misinformation.  

I hereby request a formal retraction and apology from usagi.

Oh, thats how it works? Secret evidence, is this a grand jury trial lol?
Fine, I guess Theymos will provide me with your list of "lies" and the evidence that Im corrupt, and once thats cleared you will be man enough to apologize publicly.

You didn't answer a question? Let's start again:

So are you Serena or Oliver? Or both?

IMO, the value of this forum for open discussion is greater than the value of this forum for trading and sacrificing the former for the latter doesn't make sense. Counter his speech with more speech. It sounds like most of the complaints are about claims that aren't actually unambiguously false. You have to live with that.

We can simplify: are you a guy?

I am a guy.

http://goo.gl/maps/pEf6O

Im not aware of Vampire holding 1000's of other people's BTC. Turning this around is just silly.

And I dont know what this is doing in "my" thread. Vampire, Im the one on trial here for being a serial liar and scammer,   dont steal my limelight  :D

We all know usagi is Sailor Moon. No more DOX needed.

Gonna give this a bump and update the numbers and add the original quotes while Im at it. Makes the accusation of me somehow lying about this all the more hilarious








How is this for a lie:

52500 x 0.1 = 5250  
to
36160 x 0.034 =1229

and right now:

39080 x 0.014 =547

Only a liar or scammer would deny that is indeed a Great success!

How about an apology Usagi, for libelous claims against me?

For the record usagi, you can be my Serena or my Oliver, if you get my drift.  :P

This is pretty much how I imagine Usagi.
http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/fat-guy-in-a-sailor-moon-costume-wtf.jpg

EskimoBob is a trolling piece of garbage. All he does is go around calling issuers scammers and uses idiocracy  to back up his claims. Nothing he ever says makes sense, he just enjoys discrediting people.

LOL

"...uses idiocracy" - How do you do that?
Oh, I see. I guess you just left us an example: 
"Nothing he ever says makes sense,..." - if it is so, how can I discredit anyone? How do you even understand what was written?

 :-*

Idiocracy is a 2006 American film, a satirical science fiction comedy, directed by Mike Judge and starring Luke Wilson, Maya Rudolph, Dax Shepard, and Terry Crews. The film tells the story of two ordinary people who take part in a top-secret military hibernation experiment, only to awaken 500 years in the future in a dystopian society full of extremely dumb people. <- This is the part where they talk about bitcointalk investors.

None of your explanations are logical. It's pretty straight forward. You discredit people by spamming your ridiculous claims everywhere.

too many lulz

idiocracy is government by idiot.

This is the default form of government.

back to your regularly scheduled insistence on facts with trolling of usagi.

(truly, usagi is usagi's own best troll, I just can't do it as well!)

Thanks for the movie referral. I really enjoyed watching it today.

In Idiocracy the populace were conformist - they cooperated with the police and cheered when the police apprehended the fugitives.

In Bitcointalk the populace is largely non-conformist, libertarian and anarchist. They will not cooperate with the law enforcement as a matter of principle. So they make even easier targets for the abuse. Their only self defense is hitting the "Ignore" button: the libertarian ideal of ostracism as a primary law enforcement technique.