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Smoothie's Hawaiian Property For Sale

Asking Price: $231,093.6483 <-----yes the decimals =)

Let's stop there. I will not accept all $ DOLLARS (or any form of fiat) as a 100% form of payment.

Located on the East side of the Big Island of Hawaii

1 acre lot
4 bedroom
3 bathroom
1,424 square feet
2/3 acre fenced in
paved road way
Catchment Water (no county water)

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Asking Price: $231,093.6483 <-----yes the decimals =)

I am accepting $1 + one of the following payment methods…



Payments Accepted (one or more of the following that total to at least the asking price listed above):
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|            PAYMENT TYPE                               |            % OF TOTAL PAYMENT               |            PRICE MECHANISM          |
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|           BITCOIN(BTC)                            |      remainder of % payment               |     14-DAY SMA of CoinDesk BPI |
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|          LITECOIN(LTC)                            |  no more than 25% of the total price     |    PM FOR DETAILS                   |
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|          MONERO(XMR)                            |  no more than 5% of the total price      |     PM FOR DETAILS                  |
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| PHYSICAL SILVER BULLION (.999 Fine)     |  no more than 15% of the total price     |    PM FOR DETAILS                   |
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|   PHYSICAL GOLD BULLION (.999 Fine)     |  no more than 20% of the total price     |    PM FOR DETAILS                   |
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|           $ DOLLARS                                |      no more than 5% of the total price  |    PM FOR DETAILS                   |
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FAQs

1. WHY $1 +…?

To at least satisfy the condition of consideration of payment in my local government currency.


2. WHY are you accepting multiple forms of payment with different increment sizes?

I believe each of the payment methods listed have some sort of value as payment and thought it would be an interesting idea to attempt to accept multiple forms of payment in a single payment transaction (of course in their respective methods).


3. Can I just pay in Bitcoin?

Yes. All accept the $1 difference to be accepted in cash.


4. Do You Accept Escrow?

Yes a reputable escrow company or individual willing to disclose all of their personal information will be used at my discretion (i.e. I pick the escrow).
To make things simpler I may strongly suggest we use a local Hawaii-Based (reputable) escrow company.


5. How can I trust you?

You don't have to. I have always had an honest reputation on this forum. My reputation speaks for itself. With an escrow party you won't have to trust me, but the escrow.


6. How do you propose gold/silver be escrowed?

Good question. I'm trying to figure that one out. Any reasonable suggestions are welcome and will be considered.


7. Are you holding strong to your price?

If you are curious, make me an offer close to that price above. THE PRICE IS NEGOTIABLE

8. What types of renovations/repairs are you planning to do on the property?

I have several in mind that I will be posting about as they are done. Currently I am painting the interior kitchen, living room, bedrooms, and hallway for the moment.


GENERAL TERMS AND CONDITIONS

1. You must be 18 years or older to participate in this transaction and willing to disclose your true identity both on paper and in person.

2. There is no restriction on where you live or what citizenship/country you reside in (but this does not guarantee I understand all the local laws of your country) to participate in this transaction.

3. Hawaii State Law will govern the transaction of the property sale.

4. Hawaii Seller's disclosure will be given to any buyer that is able to meet some basic criteria proving you actually have the funds to purchase the property and that you are serious about this. By law I have to disclose all defects/issues/needed repairs to the property to the best of my ability before finalizing the transaction with the buyer.

5. Those interested in viewing the house in person can arrange an appointment with me directly ahead of time (with reasonable advanced notice).

6. I reserve the right to add any other stipulations/terms/conditions as is reasonable/fair for both parties during this transaction that are unforeseen currently and are legal in the state of Hawaii.

7. The exchange rate of Bitcoin price is the average of the last 14 days CLOSE price listed on CoinDesk BPI (http://www.coindesk.com/price/) assuming:

   a. The CoinDesk BPI is actually functioning properly along with the major bitcoin exchange prices.

   b. No exchange is included in the Bitcoin Price Index that has halted trading (i.e. No MTGOX action etc.)

   c. It is understood that the usage of this price mechanism is to remove the short term volatility out of the price action to give a price that is easy to calculate.

   d. price will be calculated using this means on the day of the actual transfer of BTC to me (seller) and the transfer of ownership to the buyer (you).

   e. should the CoinDesk BPI not be available at the time of the transaction for calculation a bitcoin exchange and its price will be chosen by me (assuming the price deviation from other major bitcoin exchanges is not more than 5% in any one direction).

8. Other methods of payments listed above that are not BITCOIN will be dealt with on a case by case basis at my discretion. Price will be determined also on a case by case basis for conversion of that particular payment method by me at my discretion.

9. Much of the documentation/communication for this sale after a certain point will be done by my realtor whom I will put you in contact with.

10. Please retain/consult your own realtor and/or attorney to guide you through the process for your own protection. I am not here to give anyone legal nor realty advice in any way shape or form.

11. BASICALLY I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS A SMOOTH(IE) TRANSACTION AS POSSIBLE WITH AS LITTLE ISSUES/PROBLEMS.

12. I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE ASKING PRICE OF THIS PROPERTY AT ANY TIME.

Good luck, smoothie!

Good luck!  The property looks really nice, and you've got a great location.

Have you thought about listing it on bitpremier? They have lots of houses on there https://www.bitpremier.com/5-real-estate

I'd love to buy a place with bitcoin eventually and is one of my goals for btc, though I'm along way off currently.

I like it Smoothie, but I'm just not ready to move to the middle of the Pacific.  :)

I think I may list it there as well.

Just haven't had time to do it yet.

Hopefully soon.  ;D

hehe in the same respect I'm not ready to move FROM the middle of the pacific.

 ;D

thanks smeagol.


Also this is a property that I lived in from the ages of 12 thru 24 (thru college etc).

That is a very nice place you have there. But i need to work a lot more so i can buy it and consider to retire in a nice home in the Pacific. Wish you a great sale, mate. Best of luck!

Good luck with the sale smoothie, and awesome house + property you've got there. Someone buying with any combination of the payment options BTC, Litecoin, Monero, Gold, and Silver would probably be a first of its kind.

Also I have to ask, if you're leaving Hawaii, considered a paradise by many, where would you be moving to? Winter is overrated in my opinion.  :)

Thanks.

No I am not moving from Hawaii. This is just a investment property/rental I am selling.

Aloha and thanks for the kind words. Let me know if you know anyone interested.

 ;D

Buy your own piece of paradise! (well...it's home for me)  ;D

Can I pay in anonymous debit cards? :)

If you read the post I did say that your real life identity needs to be revealed.

You can't buy real estate in the US anonymously.

This is a little off-topic but I figure you're a good person to ask and you get a free bump... are real houses (like brick) rare in Hawaii? I've been looking at property in HI for a couple months now and haven't found any other than like the type you're selling (not sure how to word it, but basically the same style).

My house isn't real? ???

Was this your main house and you'll move or do you live nearby?

Brick houses are not common in Hawaii.

The style you see is generally what is used of course with proper hurricane clips on proper beams in the house.

This was a house I grew up in.

I live nearby yes.

All I ever read is how high the prices have got in Hawaii,this is really cheap in my eyes. That barely gets a 1 bedroom apartment in Vancouver(Canada).
Good luck selling your property. :)

Didn't mean it like that... I basically view them in tiers (due to where I live):

1) RV
2) Mobile
3) Wooden
4) Brick (house)

I did some thinking and I believe the reason why there aren't brick houses there is due to the heat and such, which could cause them to crumble/settle/etc.

Since Hawaii is volcanic and subject to earthquakes, I'd guess it's an ordinance that doesn't allow brick structures to be built without heavy re-enforcement or at all.  I grew up in the SF Bay Area and that's how it is there.

Hmm I disagree with this. I think it is more economical for people in the hawaii economy to build wooden houses than brick houses.

In Hawaii we don't need a ton of insulation generally as we never need to heat nor cool our homes.

The temperatures are generally in the 65-85 degree range.

Shame it's in the U.S. Otherwise I might be looking for exactly that kind of deal, since I am long on BTC, silver and perhaps other of the instruments as well, and seeking a property.

If an opportunity like this presents itself in non-EU Europe, India or SE Asia, contact me! :)

Is owning property in the U.S. not favorable for you?

Would be interesting to hear your logic and decision making based on that.

I've had assets seized without recourse a few times so I don't blame him.

What was the reasoning for your assets being seized?

Maybe I'll PM you if I feel like sharing. The point is that they were and I had no recourse, it should have been illegal but it was not. We are not free nor do we actually own what we think we do. We hold what we are allowed to by TPTB.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States

Yeah, there was a pretty detailed story last year about someone that had their house siezed for defaulting on their loan. The issue is the house was fully paid off many years prior, was a clear and free asset, and they even had the deed proving it. It went to court, they lose the house and ended up in a multi-year battle, with the end result being that the bank apparently went for the wrong address (like 110 xxx drive instead of 106 xxx drive). They were given nothing for their hardship (having lost everything, being put on the street to figure out what they could do, having no way to even get another place in the meantime). And apparently this exact situation happens ~1k times a year in the U.S. in the same exact manner.

The simple fact is that even if you have proof of what you say, the court can completely ignore that and screw you regardless over a clerical error.

Not to mention a lot of people don't realize the government can take anything they want, classifying it as "eminent domain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain)." And that's even when there is no claim you did anything wrong. This is also something that happens much more frequently than it should.

Basically, what you think you own, you don't. There's this false sense of security in having things like deeds, but the fact is you can lose it at any time -- all it takes is someone with power to see it and say "I want that." And there are even more loopholes to steal your stuff than just these two situations, but these are the most common.

Ha, ha -smoothie is one gud braddah for shure!

Location, location, location!

TMK or map might be helpful for those doing due diligence?  ;)

Have you looked at selling this on bitpremier? Maybe you should make a raffle for this like the one on Sean's outpost although I'm not sure what the laws regarding this are in Hawaii

It is located in Puna, Hawaii.

Any serious buyers can PM me and I can setup a meeting if they want to view the property.

I'll give all necessary info to those who are seriously looking to buy and not just waste my time  :)

I posted the recent sales in the main post to get a gist of the general location and the prices for selling parcels.

I considered it.

Just never got around to posting it there. Do they charge a fee to post up on their site?

Raffle? Not sure how that would go down nor the legalities behind it.

And here I was thinking Smoothie was a pimply faced kid living in his parents basement  :o

The whole time he's living the good life, congrats smoothie, wish I was in the market for a vacation home...or could afford a vacation home  :-\

Bitpremier is free to list on, but I believe it was a 15% fee of the sale price once (if) sold. Somewhat hefty.

Just want to quickly add that yeah, while that is true, their power (as is the power of wind and waves even) is also bounded, this time by God.


We should not fear TPTB because even if they kill our body, they cannot kill the soul. God alone has the power to destroy both soul and body in hell forever, and if we propagate this fact enough, there will not be anyone who dares to work for the enemies of God.

Good luck with the sale. I live Kona side and hope to use crypto to buy land up in the Hamakua area someday.

Nice house and good luck! amazing an early adopter could have a house in hawaii for a few days work back then lol.  Also great link I had never heard of that site with houses

nice! PM me so we can chat some time.

Not sure if it's an incredibly good idea to post pictures of your house on an open forum to be honest.. Especially if you have money.

Tons of scammers out there and it would be a shame if someone used the image of your house and found it and ransacked it/harmed you.

You have to be very careful about what info you post on the internet.. You never know who will find it and utilize it.

Hopefully you don't run into trouble.. I'd almost suggest maybe getting some firearms if you're gonna say your location online. :/

I guess it is a good thing I did not post the physical address on the internet.

That's also like saying "dont use a realty company because they post your house photos online to help you sell it"...

Kind of counter intuitive.

Trust me I've taken precautions if anyone tried to come at me in any harmful way.

Real estate listings are how we found out WoodCollector's real identity. Powerful tool sometimes :)

Well my name is well known and out there already. Not anything to hide there.


Concerning WC,

Really?

I didnt get that memo.  :D

Can you PM the info?