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Title: Putin has started a new clash with the West
Post by: cryptocoiner on July 29, 2015, 12:49:05 PM
Putin has started a new clash with the West

Moscow has escalated its brinksmanship with the West, reopening a monumental 1990s clash over an oil pipeline that it fought and lost with the United States.

The new front is Georgia, a Russian neighbor that’s been a theater of US-Russian struggle since the mid-1990s.

Back then, Washington promoted the construction of oil and natural gas pipelines in former Soviet republics independent of Russian control. The objective was to help wrest Georgia and Azerbaijan from Russian political domination by loosening Moscow’s long-held economic stranglehold on the Caucasus region.
(US State Department)

Since Russia was much weaker politically at the time, the US managed to best Moscow—the lines were constructed, thus eliminating Russia’s monopoly on the flow of oil and gas from the Caucasus. The biggest blows to Russia were two of the pipelines in this drawing, depicted by the green and black lines: BP-operated pipelines from Baku to the Georgian port of Supsa, and from Baku to the Turkish port of Ceyhan.

http://qz.com/464703/putin-has-started-a-new-clash-with-the-west-this-time-over-the-flow-of-oil-through-georgia/


Title: Re: Putin has started a new clash with the West
Post by: blablahblah on July 29, 2015, 01:17:47 PM
*Waits for Putin's fanbois to tell me why the West is even more bad in every conceivable way...*

Yes, I'd love to hear more about Obama and Hillary Clinton! ;)

Or, maybe they'll just "turn a blind eye" to this thread.


Title: Re: Putin has started a new clash with the West
Post by: Snail2 on July 29, 2015, 02:59:09 PM
*Waits for Putin's fanbois to tell me why the West is even more bad in every conceivable way...*

Yes, I'd love to hear more about Obama and Hillary Clinton! ;)

Or, maybe they'll just "turn a blind eye" to this thread.

That's easy :). The west blasted away half of Iraq and Afghanistan and killed at least a million people for some oilfields and pipelines, our wise leaders recently unleashed a big bunch of religious fanatics in Syria, supported a coup and an attempted ethnic cleansing in Ukraine (plus an other ethnic cleansing in South Ossetia back in 2008). In the meantime Russia have made only (relative) moderate steps to restore its former sphere of influence, and they actually saved the asses of a lot of ossetians.


Title: Re: Putin has started a new clash with the West
Post by: RodeoX on July 29, 2015, 03:12:07 PM
*Waits for Putin's fanbois to tell me why the West is even more bad in every conceivable way...*

Yes, I'd love to hear more about Obama and Hillary Clinton! ;)

Or, maybe they'll just "turn a blind eye" to this thread.

I wonder how many of them work here? Not that the U.S. is free of this kind of stuff.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house


Title: Re: Putin has started a new clash with the West
Post by: Agestorzrxx on July 29, 2015, 03:19:03 PM
The oil crashed. It will end Putins rule. :D
                                                                         


Title: Re: Putin has started a new clash with the West
Post by: Okurkabinladin on July 29, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
*Waits for Putin's fanbois to tell me why the West is even more bad in every conceivable way...*

Yes, I'd love to hear more about Obama and Hillary Clinton! ;)

Or, maybe they'll just "turn a blind eye" to this thread.

No, I rather find it funny, that Americans now admit, that Cold War never ended for them, even during nineties, when they were calling Russians their friends (while holding knife behind their back) they tried to weaken and isolate the federation.

Now, that leadership of the country recovers some of its bufferzone, it is called agressive by the westerners  ;D

Ask Germans what they think about NSA spying on millions of their citizens and companies. US has interesting take on friendships.


Title: Re: Putin has started a new clash with the West
Post by: Balthazar on July 29, 2015, 04:58:28 PM
The oil crashed. It will end Putins rule. :D
                                                                        

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PETR.RT.ZS

Quote
Oil rents (% of GDP)

Country name           2010   2011   2012   2013   
<...>
Russian Federation   14.7   16.1   14.9   13.7   

http://goinglikesixty.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/resized_creepy-willy-wonka-meme-generator-no-life-why-not-become-an-internet-troll.jpg

Bye-bye, loser.  :D