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Title: Your political views - test yourself Post by: pawel7777 on July 29, 2015, 09:21:21 PM Test your political views and post the result:
https://www.politicalcompass.org/ My score is close to the middle, I honestly expected it to be more on the right/top. https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-1.75&soc=-1.13 Economic Left/Right: -1.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.13 Many of those questions are poorly constructed and definitely missing neutral options. Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: Topbanker on July 29, 2015, 09:45:31 PM almost exactly the same lol :D
Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: Possum577 on July 29, 2015, 09:57:16 PM Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.0 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.36 Yeah, the questions are fairly charged or leading the respondent. And the response options are sometimes forcing one to one extreme or another which is bound to lead to some inaccuracy in the results. I've never seen this poll before, what level of expertise does this guy have? Any solid endorsements from any publicly sponsored media outlets (regardless of how independent their content is)? Haha. Thanks for sharing. Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: unholycactus on July 29, 2015, 10:20:02 PM https://i.imgur.com/bpJQVs3.png
To who was this compass designed for? When I saw questions like "What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state.", it concerned me that a rational human being would disagree. Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: Balthazar on July 29, 2015, 10:24:39 PM https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-4.13&soc=0.46
Some questions are senseless so I've picked random options. Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: Beliathon on July 29, 2015, 11:32:44 PM Economic Left/Right: -9.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.44 https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-9.13&soc=-9.44 Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: msc_de on July 30, 2015, 12:03:08 AM Economic Left/Right: -1.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.31 https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-1.63&soc=-0.31 Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: Karpeles on July 30, 2015, 12:05:16 AM https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-0.38&soc=-0.92
Economic Left/Right: -0.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.92 but it means nothing, of course Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: Beliathon on July 30, 2015, 01:23:14 AM Economic Left/Right: -0.38 Actually it carries quite of few implications about your intellectual acuity. Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.92 but it means nothing, of course Kemmelmeier (2008) surveyed college students who scored above average in academic achievement tests (e.g. SAT and ACT) and found two trends. There was a linear trend for more intelligent students to be less conservative overall, in line with Stankov’s findings. Additionally, there was a non-linear trend for the most intelligent students to support more extreme political views as opposed to more moderate ones. Political views in this study were measured by first asking people how liberal vs. conservative they were, and additionally asking about their views on more specific issues referred to as “traditional gender roles” and “anti-regulation” attitudes. Participants’ views on the former issues (e.g. gay marriage and abortion) were more strongly associated with their overall conservatism than their views on government regulation (e.g. gun control, higher taxes for the wealthy, speech codes on campus). Interestingly, higher intelligence was associated with less conservative views on traditional gender roles on the one hand, but more “conservative” views opposing government regulation. This suggests that more intelligent people in this study tended to support both greater personal freedom and less government regulation in general (libertarians take note). This finding is similar to a previous finding that higher education was associated with greater support for liberal social policies but not with support for greater economic regulation (Gerber, Huber, Doherty, Dowling, & Ha, 2010). Stankov (2009) has argued that conservative political ideologies tend to be associated with lower intelligence on average. Conservatives generally value tradition, respect for authority, and social order, and tend to be leery of innovation and change. These scholars have argued that such values tend to be associated with cognitive rigidity and may therefore appeal to people who have difficulty with intellectual challenges that require them to process novel information. In support of his argument, Stankov cited evidence that people with more conservative views tend to score lower on IQ tests and to have lower levels of education. One major reason why intelligent people tend to be liberal is that conservatism is the default position. As Charlton once wrote on this blog “conservatism is natural and spontaneous”. I agree with this; conservatism is natural because conservatism is all about our most primitive self-serving impulses: tribalism, family and children, greed etc. Evolution has predisposed us to feel emotions that enhance our genetic fitness, and these are the conservative emotions, so conservatives are disgusted by immigration because it threatens their gene pool. They worship wealth because historically, the ability to acquire resources enhanced the survival of one’s self, one’s family, and one’s tribe. They are disgusted by feminism because feminist daughters threaten their genetic fitness by being too focused on career to give them grand-kids. Similarly, they are disgusted by gays because openly gay sons also don’t give them any grand-kids. So evolution has programmed us to feel conservative emotions, and thus only people who are intelligent enough to think critically about their evolutionary programming and rebel against it, tend to have the option of being liberal. A second major reason why intelligent people tend to be liberal is that intelligence is the mental ability to adapt and liberalism is all about change. By contrast, those who are not intelligent enough to adapt to a changing society or just new ideas, may fear it, and thus prefer conservatism which seeks to preserve tradition. A third reason why intelligent people tend to be liberal is that liberalism is more complex and ambiguous. By contrast conservatism seeks simple solutions and simple dichotomies like good vs evil, us vs. them. However just because liberalism is more intellectually demanding than conservatism does not make it more correct. I find a lot of smart people really are “clever sillies” in that they embrace theories and ideas that are unnecessarily complex and this is probably a major problem in the IQ 120-140 range that so many of our elites are drawn from. Such people are smart enough to think of complex answers to questions, but they’re not smart enough to understand why the complex solution is wrong. They suffer from bounded cognition, because they haven’t internalized Occam’s razor. Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: popcorn1 on July 30, 2015, 03:16:08 AM my chart says i am like green peace and gandhi :D :D :D :D :D
i love UFC so why gandhi :D :D :D tho he was an amazing human being gandhi was a much better person than i could ever be :) Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: Okurkabinladin on July 30, 2015, 06:04:10 AM Economic Left/Right: -0.38 Actually it carries quite of few implications about your intellectual acuity. Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.92 but it means nothing, of course Kemmelmeier (2008) surveyed college students who scored above average in academic achievement tests (e.g. SAT and ACT) and found two trends. There was a linear trend for more intelligent students to be less conservative overall, in line with Stankov’s findings. Additionally, there was a non-linear trend for the most intelligent students to support more extreme political views as opposed to more moderate ones. Political views in this study were measured by first asking people how liberal vs. conservative they were, and additionally asking about their views on more specific issues referred to as “traditional gender roles” and “anti-regulation” attitudes. Participants’ views on the former issues (e.g. gay marriage and abortion) were more strongly associated with their overall conservatism than their views on government regulation (e.g. gun control, higher taxes for the wealthy, speech codes on campus). Interestingly, higher intelligence was associated with less conservative views on traditional gender roles on the one hand, but more “conservative” views opposing government regulation. This suggests that more intelligent people in this study tended to support both greater personal freedom and less government regulation in general (libertarians take note). This finding is similar to a previous finding that higher education was associated with greater support for liberal social policies but not with support for greater economic regulation (Gerber, Huber, Doherty, Dowling, & Ha, 2010). Stankov (2009) has argued that conservative political ideologies tend to be associated with lower intelligence on average. Conservatives generally value tradition, respect for authority, and social order, and tend to be leery of innovation and change. These scholars have argued that such values tend to be associated with cognitive rigidity and may therefore appeal to people who have difficulty with intellectual challenges that require them to process novel information. In support of his argument, Stankov cited evidence that people with more conservative views tend to score lower on IQ tests and to have lower levels of education. One major reason why intelligent people tend to be liberal is that conservatism is the default position. As Charlton once wrote on this blog “conservatism is natural and spontaneous”. I agree with this; conservatism is natural because conservatism is all about our most primitive self-serving impulses: tribalism, family and children, greed etc. Evolution has predisposed us to feel emotions that enhance our genetic fitness, and these are the conservative emotions, so conservatives are disgusted by immigration because it threatens their gene pool. They worship wealth because historically, the ability to acquire resources enhanced the survival of one’s self, one’s family, and one’s tribe. They are disgusted by feminism because feminist daughters threaten their genetic fitness by being too focused on career to give them grand-kids. Similarly, they are disgusted by gays because openly gay sons also don’t give them any grand-kids. So evolution has programmed us to feel conservative emotions, and thus only people who are intelligent enough to think critically about their evolutionary programming and rebel against it, tend to have the option of being liberal. A second major reason why intelligent people tend to be liberal is that intelligence is the mental ability to adapt and liberalism is all about change. By contrast, those who are not intelligent enough to adapt to a changing society or just new ideas, may fear it, and thus prefer conservatism which seeks to preserve tradition. A third reason why intelligent people tend to be liberal is that liberalism is more complex and ambiguous. By contrast conservatism seeks simple solutions and simple dichotomies like good vs evil, us vs. them. However just because liberalism is more intellectually demanding than conservatism does not make it more correct. I find a lot of smart people really are “clever sillies” in that they embrace theories and ideas that are unnecessarily complex and this is probably a major problem in the IQ 120-140 range that so many of our elites are drawn from. Such people are smart enough to think of complex answers to questions, but they’re not smart enough to understand why the complex solution is wrong. They suffer from bounded cognition, because they haven’t internalized Occam’s razor. Beliathlon, thank you for insightful commentary. However, how does supposed correlation between IQ and conservatism/liberalism fall in with the fact, that "more intelligent people" take more extreme positions? Nobody sane would accuse ultraconservatives like Khomeini, Putin or representatives of Mormon church of low IQ - even though you could label them as liberals, since their ideas go against rules set down by western mainstream. Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: Okurkabinladin on July 30, 2015, 06:19:54 AM To who was this compass designed for? When I saw questions like "What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state.", it concerned me that a rational human being would disagree. Well, the question reminded me of cannibal cases in Europe where homosexuals, who met on internet agreed to butcher and consume one of them after sex. Reality can be stranger than fiction. I had problems with other questions, for example the one about support of your country... what if you can help your country by being in opposition to its establishment (number of historical dictatorships come to mind)? Are you supporting the country then or not? Test cant really make difference between state and country, nationality and citizenship, religion and personal conviction... Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: Beliathon on July 30, 2015, 01:57:38 PM Beliathlon, thank you for insightful commentary. However, how does supposed correlation between IQ and conservatism/liberalism fall in with the fact, that "more intelligent people" take more extreme positions? Very smart people are just as capable of being misled - or misleading themselves - as are idiots. Our world is awash with intelligent, wealthy, and powerful individuals who deliberately deceive others - often en maase. Only the wary and determined information wanderer finds the path to truth.Nearly all living adults were systematically lied to during their formative years. We are few who possess the ability to liberate ourselves from this brainwashing by means of mentally searching and destroying all fear. That's why there are some very intelligent people pushing some very stupid - sometimes insane - worldviews. http://40.media.tumblr.com/ed16e56197cd990ce3766e20f25e7cfe/tumblr_npukknyLBZ1tuwbfjo1_500.jpg Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: Beliathon on July 31, 2015, 01:58:48 AM Upbump for interesting thread.
Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: mookid on July 31, 2015, 03:23:20 AM Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: ridery99 on July 31, 2015, 02:37:31 PM Economic Left/Right: -9.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.44 https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-9.13&soc=-9.44 I have -10, -10 Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: cooldgamer on July 31, 2015, 11:27:08 PM Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: Beliathon on July 31, 2015, 11:41:00 PM Science is simple: You need only follow the evidence wherever it may lead, and in time all the secrets of the universe will unfold before you.
But compassion, noblest of all wisdoms, is another quest altogether. All too often compassion is the path of greatest resistance. All too often compassion demands unthinkable sacrifice. So it should come as no surprise that we are few who dare to walk this path earnestly and without fear. Nevertheless, history has shown us again and again that time is on our side. It was my love of reason that brought me to anarchism, but it was my compassion was my love of reason that brought me to anarchism, but it was my compassion - burning inside my heart like a fire that never runs out of fuel - that made me a socialist. And so I shall remain until the day I die. Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: bimasena25 on August 01, 2015, 01:36:36 AM almost exactly the same lol :D yes, maybe any problem at this scipt must be updated, my broTitle: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: popcorn1 on August 01, 2015, 03:08:11 AM Science is simple: You need only follow the evidence wherever it may lead, and in time all the secrets of the universe will unfold before you. I am confused why do people sayBut compassion, noblest of all wisdoms, is another quest altogether. All too often compassion is the path of greatest resistance. All too often compassion demands unthinkable sacrifice. So it should come as no surprise that we are few who dare to walk this path earnestly and without fear. Nevertheless, history has shown us again and again that time is on our side. It was my love of reason that brought me to anarchism, but it was my compassion was my love of reason that brought me to anarchism, but it was my compassion - burning inside my heart like a fire that never runs out of fuel - that made me a socialist. And so I shall remain until the day I die. don.t like him he is a socialist don.t like him he is a communist don,t like him he is a capitalist My view is the world would be a better place if we had all 3 in our thinking some things in life should not be capitalised some things in life should not be socialised some things in life should not be communised AND NOW some things in life should be capitalised some things in life should be socialised some things in life should be communised I think its stupid just to think of just the one ideology you become to extreme in your thinking by picking 1 of the 3 ideology so if you ask me i am all 3 a socialist a capitalist and a communist Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: rigel on August 01, 2015, 03:29:10 AM Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.87 Just near Gandhi Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: Beliathon on August 01, 2015, 12:00:26 PM Science is simple: You need only follow the evidence wherever it may lead, and in time all the secrets of the universe will unfold before you. I think its stupid just to think of just the one ideologyBut compassion, noblest of all wisdoms, is another quest altogether. All too often compassion is the path of greatest resistance. All too often compassion demands great and terrible sacrifice. So it should come as no surprise that we are few who dare to walk this path earnestly and without fear. Nevertheless, history has shown us again and again that time is on our side. It was my love of reason that brought me to anarchism, but it was my compassion was my love of reason that brought me to anarchism, but it was my compassion - burning inside my heart like a fire that never runs out of fuel - that made me a socialist. And so I shall remain until the day I die. you become to extreme in your thinking by picking 1 of the 3 ideology so if you ask me i am all 3 a socialist a capitalist and a communist https://youtu.be/Fn6UJ2QcR7I "Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." Robert A. Heinlein Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: salek11 on September 21, 2015, 10:37:05 AM Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -1.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.41 https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-1.75&soc=2.41 (https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-1.75&soc=2.41) Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: Gimpeline on September 21, 2015, 01:00:03 PM Economic Left/Right: 2.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.54 https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=2.5&soc=-7.54 Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: Betwrong on September 21, 2015, 01:42:22 PM Economic Left/Right: -3.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.92 https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-3.0&soc=-4.92 Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: BADecker on September 21, 2015, 02:28:57 PM I would guess that this test is being used by government to follow dangerous people by their IP address.
The wording of many of the questions is designed to twist the mind of an average person to say just the opposite of what the question literally asks. Many of the words such as "state" may mean different things that are often not considered by the test-taker. For example, "state" can mean a common law jury which can make decisions any way that it chooses, and often does. When I say "any way," I mean to the extent of declaring the law illegal in the particular case. Because of this, the test means nothing to the test-taker. The only people who gain are the people who have designed the test to elicit certain info from the general public through psychological use of the responses. Indeed many of the questions are only "filler" to keep unwary test-takers from finding out the true use of the test. :) Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: tsoPANos on September 21, 2015, 05:07:05 PM I just completed the test but I accidentally closed the tab >:(
I was in the green square, but close the the center, pretty much like op. I have not been surpriced that bitcoiners and liberal! Title: Re: Your political views - test yourself Post by: tsoPANos on September 22, 2015, 06:39:44 PM https://i.imgur.com/hoBmrWU.png You seem to be very conservative.I am a bit less authoritarian than the last time, and a bit more to the right. I saw no graph similar to mine here :-[. Bitcoin is libertarian by nature, why would someone like you support bitcoin? |
