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Title: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: GermanGiant on July 29, 2015, 09:59:33 PM A blank passphrase creates the following Address/Private key combination.
1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN / 5KYZdUEo39z3FPrtuX2QbbwGnNP5zTd7yyr2SC1j299sBCnWjss Someone sent 50 BTC today to this 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN... https://blockchain.info/tx/65e1ce741c6f756cf0c36b49a59ba77d7aab82b09acde63c4052bbd6bf1c7050 Within 10 minutes it was moved out... https://blockchain.info/tx/84ef741c9178a62ca405c7addefe3805ac443dcef1ee3051e5a0a18e1a65cc30 Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: unamis76 on July 29, 2015, 10:03:05 PM This is a known address, it's the default example from brainwallet. The person who sent it there either made a donation to the wrong address or made a big mistake, unfortunately.
Since it was probably a mistake, it should be returned, but we all know that doesn't happen (much often...). I guess we live and learn, unfortunately the amount of coins was significant. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: GermanGiant on July 29, 2015, 10:05:30 PM This is a known address, it's the default example from brainwallet. The person who sent it there either made a donation to the wrong address or made a big mistake, unfortunately. Since it was probably a mistake, it should be returned, but we all know that doesn't happen (much often...). I guess we live and learn, unfortunately the amount of coins was significant. It is also possible that the guy swiped the coins himself. But, as I can see, even after 80+ confirmation blockchain.info is showing the outgoing Tx as double spend. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: jwcastle on July 29, 2015, 10:06:58 PM Looks like more than 1 person tried to claim that 50 BTC.
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: gentlemand on July 29, 2015, 10:07:44 PM Since it was probably a mistake, it should be returned, but we all know that doesn't happen (much often...). I was under the impression there are bots out there dedicated to scanning for obvious brain wallets. That's the most obvious one of all by the sounds of it. Goodnight, sweet coins. I don't really get why anyone indulges in them. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: PolarPoint on July 29, 2015, 10:33:26 PM I was under the impression there are bots out there dedicated to scanning for obvious brain wallets. That's the most obvious one of all by the sounds of it. Goodnight, sweet coins. There are bots which scans famous quotes, bible quotes, song lyrics, everything a person can think of plus small mutations. I feel sorry for anyone who lost coins this way. Any brainwallet generated from phrases just aren't safe, people have to learn their lesson the hard way. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: unamis76 on July 29, 2015, 10:45:00 PM This is a known address, it's the default example from brainwallet. The person who sent it there either made a donation to the wrong address or made a big mistake, unfortunately. Since it was probably a mistake, it should be returned, but we all know that doesn't happen (much often...). I guess we live and learn, unfortunately the amount of coins was significant. It is also possible that the guy swiped the coins himself. But, as I can see, even after 80+ confirmation blockchain.info is showing the outgoing Tx as double spend. Yes, that's a possibility too, but a very optimistic one :D Since it was probably a mistake, it should be returned, but we all know that doesn't happen (much often...). I was under the impression there are bots out there dedicated to scanning for obvious brain wallets. That's the most obvious one of all by the sounds of it. Goodnight, sweet coins. I don't really get why anyone indulges in them. Yes, bots exist... People are after free and easy coins, I guess... ::) Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on July 29, 2015, 10:46:26 PM I am envious.
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: oblivi on July 29, 2015, 10:49:08 PM I was under the impression there are bots out there dedicated to scanning for obvious brain wallets. That's the most obvious one of all by the sounds of it. Goodnight, sweet coins. There are bots which scans famous quotes, bible quotes, song lyrics, everything a person can think of plus small mutations. I feel sorry for anyone who lost coins this way. Any brainwallet generated from phrases just aren't safe, people have to learn their lesson the hard way. Thats why I would never, ever store my main stack within something that can be generated out of thin air. There's no way im ever moving my coins from my local offline hardware unless I want to have spare BTC on my mycellium wallet. Brainwallet sounds good but better stay a paranoid and go good ol offline. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Nexious on July 29, 2015, 10:51:15 PM It was a well known brain wallet address, either it was a mistake or done on purpose. If it was a mistake I feel sorry for the person, but sending that large amounts you would double check everything before you sent.
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: foodstamps on July 29, 2015, 11:53:28 PM Pretty crazy stuff, whether it was a mistake or not. I know the feeling though, I have sent BTC to the wrong address before(never anything near that much though).
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Gleb Gamow on July 30, 2015, 01:33:49 AM It was a well known brain wallet address, either it was a mistake or done on purpose. If it was a mistake I feel sorry for the person, but sending that large amounts you would double check everything before you sent. This might help. Looks like he might have been warning you? 1brain = GoodGuy bitcoin stealer lol. From: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7365663 Perhaps this comment will start a good discussion, or maybe people won't like it because I'm one of the thieves mentioned. I'm the owner of the 1brain7kAZxPagLt2HRLxqyc3VgGSa1GR address. First, for those curious, the passphrases of the wallets taken from so far: 19JsLFDRxuTsAjapE79FgoVNdNdB2hNU5M - "alfanumerico" (0.36875 BTC) 1PQiixL1SyytXoUGFBGA5ptW9uTjsBrdhX - "emergency" (0.00085 BTC) 1CqRJYoztkWifUYadFg13MHdmECx6uEdy7 - "butterfly" (0.00025 BTC) 16ga2uqnF1NqpAuQeeg7sTCAdtDUwDyJav - "password" (0.00085 BTC) 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN - "" (0.474972 BTC) 1HoSFymoqteYrmmr7s3jDDqmggoxacbk37 - "hello" (0.000555 BTC) 1C7zdTfnkzmr13HfA2vNm5SJYRK6nEKyq8 - "correct horse battery staple" (0.243762 BTC) 1JwSSubhmg6iPtRjtyqhUYYH7bZg3Lfy1T - "correct horse battery staple" (0.000079 BTC) The implementation isn't particularly exciting. I have a PostgreSQL database containing a single `address' table storing (address, privKey, passphrase). Of course, the passphrase doesn't actually need to be stored, but I kept it around to satisfy my own curiosity. I run a modified bitcoind client that checks each transaction it hears about (in CTxMemPool::accept) to see if any of the outputs are in my database. If they are, a transaction is created, signed and broadcast to send the same number of BTC (minus fees) to 1brain7kAZxPagLt2HRLxqyc3VgGSa1GR. I just wanted to point out that, when I started this, it was not for financial gain. I simply saw it as a fun and interesting exercise about the Bitcoin protocol. I wanted to see if I was capable to "winning the race" -- trust me when I say there are loads of people out there "mining" brainwallets, and whosever transaction is included in a block first tends to win and get the Bitcoin. I never expected to gain over 1 BTC, I think I got rather lucky. My database contains 19,412,020 passphrases (mostly single passwords, actually) which all came from various wordlists I found online. I consider this to be a fairly small dictionary, based on what I've read about other people doing the same thing. I originally had plans to make the database much bigger, however I've since moved onto other projects. I'm happy to answer questions if people have any. There's a signed version of this comment at http://pastebin.com/s29kk2bb, which you can verify (rather ironically) at http://brainwallet.org/#verify. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: jonald_fyookball on July 30, 2015, 01:50:57 AM why are there two addresses for correct horse battery staple?
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Pursuer on July 30, 2015, 03:01:29 AM why are there two addresses for correct horse battery staple? brainwallet has two modes for creating private keys called "Point Conversion" which makes compressed and uncompressed private keys, hence two different addresses. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: btccashacc on July 30, 2015, 05:06:52 AM A blank passphrase creates the following Address/Private key combination. 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN / 5KYZdUEo39z3FPrtuX2QbbwGnNP5zTd7yyr2SC1j299sBCnWjss Someone sent 50 BTC today to this 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN... https://blockchain.info/tx/65e1ce741c6f756cf0c36b49a59ba77d7aab82b09acde63c4052bbd6bf1c7050 Within 10 minutes it was moved out... https://blockchain.info/tx/84ef741c9178a62ca405c7addefe3805ac443dcef1ee3051e5a0a18e1a65cc30 fuck that $ 14,463.50 :O Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: cointell on July 30, 2015, 05:45:39 AM why are there two addresses for correct horse battery staple? brainwallet has two modes for creating private keys called "Point Conversion" which makes compressed and uncompressed private keys, hence two different addresses. Yep, and the two addresses for the empty string are: https://blockchain.info/address/1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN https://blockchain.info/address/1F3sAm6ZtwLAUnj7d38pGFxtP3RVEvtsbV Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Kprawn on July 30, 2015, 06:15:01 AM Well it's been flagged --> " Warning! this bitcoin address contains transactions which may be double spends. You should be extremely careful when trusting any transactions to or from this address. "
I see test transactions being performed, so it's going to go down the rabbit whole very soon, if it's stolen coins. How can people make a mistake like that with 50 BTC? I hope for their sake that is not a mistake... Thats a lot of money in anyone's language. It's amazing how fast these bots are to catch up on that... or was it just a test? Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: S4VV4S on July 30, 2015, 08:30:56 AM 4 bots attempted to clean it out:
https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96343089 (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96343089) https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96341462 (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96341462) https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96344575 (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96344575) https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96343087 (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96343087) Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Mickeyb on July 30, 2015, 08:42:47 AM Well it's been flagged --> " Warning! this bitcoin address contains transactions which may be double spends. You should be extremely careful when trusting any transactions to or from this address. " I see test transactions being performed, so it's going to go down the rabbit whole very soon, if it's stolen coins. How can people make a mistake like that with 50 BTC? I hope for their sake that is not a mistake... Thats a lot of money in anyone's language. It's amazing how fast these bots are to catch up on that... or was it just a test? When you are not careful enough shit happens really fast. 50 BTC is a lot, but I have witnessed people being less or same careful with amounts of 500 BTCs and higher. Didn't some user of this forum guard his passwords and wallet.dat files unencrypted on the cloud and he got hacked for more than 1000 BTCs. Luckily he managed to negotiate the return of funds with the thief. I guess that some people never learn. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: RocketSingh on July 30, 2015, 09:10:59 AM Well it's been flagged --> " Warning! this bitcoin address contains transactions which may be double spends. You should be extremely careful when trusting any transactions to or from this address. " I see test transactions being performed, so it's going to go down the rabbit whole very soon, if it's stolen coins. How can people make a mistake like that with 50 BTC? I hope for their sake that is not a mistake... Thats a lot of money in anyone's language. It's amazing how fast these bots are to catch up on that... or was it just a test? When you are not careful enough shit happens really fast. 50 BTC is a lot, but I have witnessed people being less or same careful with amounts of 500 BTCs and higher. Didn't some user of this forum guard his passwords and wallet.dat files unencrypted on the cloud and he got hacked for more than 1000 BTCs. Luckily he managed to negotiate the return of funds with the thief. I guess that some people never learn. Yah. Here is the thread => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686275.0 Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Mayer Amschel on July 30, 2015, 09:13:07 AM Oh bummer >:(
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: NorrisK on July 30, 2015, 09:27:37 AM So was sending it to the empty string wallet a double spend or was the transaction out of the wallet a double spend?
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: GermanGiant on July 30, 2015, 01:37:45 PM So was sending it to the empty string wallet a double spend or was the transaction out of the wallet a double spend? Of course the transaction out of the wallet is double spend. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: faridkifly on July 30, 2015, 02:13:35 PM It was a well known brain wallet address, either it was a mistake or done on purpose. If it was a mistake I feel sorry for the person, but sending that large amounts you would double check everything before you sent. Yeah I think so.Double check is important, but a lot of people is lazy.. They don't want to check it and they lost their btc :'( Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: amaclin on July 30, 2015, 02:17:59 PM 4 bots attempted to clean it out: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96343089 (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96343089) https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96341462 (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96341462) https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96344575 (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96344575) https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96343087 (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/96343087) You should say "at least 4 bots attempted to clean it out". bc.i does not show all conflicting transactions ;D Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on July 30, 2015, 02:19:53 PM There are bots and hackers sending those bots inspecting around finding for gaps to get in and steal your BTC. Never leave a wallet without strong encryption, lesson learned the hard way. You didn't deserve 50 BTC being lost tho, thats too much money.
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: TinEye on July 30, 2015, 02:26:02 PM It was a well known brain wallet address, either it was a mistake or done on purpose. If it was a mistake I feel sorry for the person, but sending that large amounts you would double check everything before you sent. Yeah I think so.Double check is important, but a lot of people is lazy.. They don't want to check it and they lost their btc :'( what about adding a future like that in the client? could in theory the client say to you if you're sending to an address on which the transaction has suffered from a double spend, the same thing you see on the blockchain, in red Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: amaclin on July 30, 2015, 02:33:55 PM what about adding a future like that in the client? could in theory the client say to you if you're sending to an address on which the transaction has suffered from a double spend, the same thing you see on the blockchain, in red Let us ask developers to put in client and publish on web the list of compromised addresses with their private keys. ;DTitle: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: mrbrt on July 30, 2015, 05:04:34 PM I was under the impression there are bots out there dedicated to scanning for obvious brain wallets. That's the most obvious one of all by the sounds of it. Goodnight, sweet coins. There are bots which scans famous quotes, bible quotes, song lyrics, everything a person can think of plus small mutations. I feel sorry for anyone who lost coins this way. Any brainwallet generated from phrases just aren't safe, people have to learn their lesson the hard way. Thats why I would never, ever store my main stack within something that can be generated out of thin air. There's no way im ever moving my coins from my local offline hardware unless I want to have spare BTC on my mycellium wallet. Brainwallet sounds good but better stay a paranoid and go good ol offline. How exactly do you think your "offline addresses" are generated? Do you audit the RNGs of the address generators you use? Generating the proper amount of entropy for a brainwallet is trivial and verifiable and by their very definition, brainwallets are generated and stored offline. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: mrbrt on July 30, 2015, 05:07:23 PM There are bots and hackers sending those bots inspecting around finding for gaps to get in and steal your BTC. Never leave a wallet without strong encryption, lesson learned the hard way. You didn't deserve 50 BTC being lost tho, thats too much money. Encryption is irrelevant if you aren't using an adequate amount of entropy. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: cryptworld on July 30, 2015, 05:26:40 PM maybe someone created a brainwallet but it had the mistake not to create it with ha passphrase
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: gogxmagog on July 30, 2015, 06:50:10 PM Can someone explain to me why anyone would even use a brain wallet? They seem like the least secure wallet out there, what would be the advantage?
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: mrbrt on July 30, 2015, 07:17:08 PM Can someone explain to me why anyone would even use a brain wallet? They seem like the least secure wallet out there, what would be the advantage? Read this: http://www.contravex.com/2014/03/14/on-making-high-entropy-bitcoin-paper-wallets/ He goes the extra step and actually prints the wallet out (with the private key), so memorizing the passphrase isn't necessary, but it is the steps he takes in generating the address in the first place that are important. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: spazzdla on July 30, 2015, 07:28:05 PM Can someone explain to me why anyone would even use a brain wallet? They seem like the least secure wallet out there, what would be the advantage? How would one guess a random 15 word string, the words only ever input on an offline computer. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: mrbrt on July 30, 2015, 07:39:33 PM Can someone explain to me why anyone would even use a brain wallet? They seem like the least secure wallet out there, what would be the advantage? How would one guess a random 15 word string, the words only ever input on an offline computer. It's possible (likely?) if you don't use a system that generates true randomness - like diceware. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: smiletyson on July 30, 2015, 07:42:38 PM Can someone explain to me why anyone would even use a brain wallet? They seem like the least secure wallet out there, what would be the advantage? There's only 1 advantage: "Easy to remember the priv key".But it's the most vulnerable part of it. If you can remember it easily then someone else can hack/guess it easily. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: mrbrt on July 30, 2015, 07:51:25 PM Can someone explain to me why anyone would even use a brain wallet? They seem like the least secure wallet out there, what would be the advantage? There's only 1 advantage: "Easy to remember the priv key".But it's the most vulnerable part of it. If you can remember it easily then someone else can hack/guess it easily. Mmm no. Do you understand what I mean when I say you can verify the amount of entropy? And, also do you even diceware (http://world.std.com/~reinhold/diceware.html)? Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: tearfereon on July 30, 2015, 07:54:44 PM And lucky thief is this: https://blockchain.info/address/1A6Ei5cRfDJ8jjhwxfzLJph8B9ZEthR9Z
I wonder why the other "double spenders" didn't pay more tx fee? They would have more chance to claim it.. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Cryptopher on July 30, 2015, 09:51:01 PM maybe someone created a brainwallet but it had the mistake not to create it with ha passphrase Madness. To send any coins to a Brainwallet without being thoroughly satisfied with the way in which the keys have been generated is madness. Painful for the former owner(s) of the coins, and a job well done to the opportunist recipient. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: jonald_fyookball on July 30, 2015, 11:19:57 PM Can someone explain to me why anyone would even use a brain wallet? They seem like the least secure wallet out there, what would be the advantage? Portability. Immunity from hardware failures. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: ajun96 on July 31, 2015, 12:40:40 AM A blank passphrase creates the following Address/Private key combination. 50 btc is to large bro, $14500 lost, call fbi or police cyber crime ! I hope you can getb back your money although is impossible1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN / 5KYZdUEo39z3FPrtuX2QbbwGnNP5zTd7yyr2SC1j299sBCnWjss Someone sent 50 BTC today to this 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN... https://blockchain.info/tx/65e1ce741c6f756cf0c36b49a59ba77d7aab82b09acde63c4052bbd6bf1c7050 Within 10 minutes it was moved out... https://blockchain.info/tx/84ef741c9178a62ca405c7addefe3805ac443dcef1ee3051e5a0a18e1a65cc30 Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: kvlolo on July 31, 2015, 09:30:44 AM If it were a mistake, the cost of this mistake is so big.
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: GermanGiant on July 31, 2015, 09:36:17 AM And lucky thief is this: https://blockchain.info/address/1A6Ei5cRfDJ8jjhwxfzLJph8B9ZEthR9Z I wonder why the other "double spenders" didn't pay more tx fee? They would have more chance to claim it.. Because they are using bots that are programmed to pay standard Tx fee. The winner bot of the double spending race paid highest Tx fee. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: amaclin on July 31, 2015, 09:39:40 AM Because they are using bots that are programmed to pay standard Tx fee. All bots paid the same fee. The winner transaction came to the miner first.The winner bot of the double spending race paid highest Tx fee. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: sipredrica on August 01, 2015, 08:15:49 AM Yes You Need to be Careful and You need to Keep Your Blockchain Account Details Very Confidentially I Think The Known Peoples Have Crashed out Your Bitcoins. Blockchain Never do Like Cheap Tricks.
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: grendel25 on August 01, 2015, 09:02:25 AM A blank passphrase creates the following Address/Private key combination. 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN / 5KYZdUEo39z3FPrtuX2QbbwGnNP5zTd7yyr2SC1j299sBCnWjss Someone sent 50 BTC today to this 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN... https://blockchain.info/tx/65e1ce741c6f756cf0c36b49a59ba77d7aab82b09acde63c4052bbd6bf1c7050 Within 10 minutes it was moved out... https://blockchain.info/tx/84ef741c9178a62ca405c7addefe3805ac443dcef1ee3051e5a0a18e1a65cc30 This is the type of low-tech jiggery-pokery that is holding bitcoin back. I'm not sure what current bitcoin devs are doing about this sort of thing but it doesn't seem like the user experience gets much attention when it comes to wallets, clients, paper wallets, and all the various ways to manage personal bitcoins. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: RocketSingh on August 01, 2015, 11:20:25 AM A blank passphrase creates the following Address/Private key combination. 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN / 5KYZdUEo39z3FPrtuX2QbbwGnNP5zTd7yyr2SC1j299sBCnWjss Someone sent 50 BTC today to this 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN... https://blockchain.info/tx/65e1ce741c6f756cf0c36b49a59ba77d7aab82b09acde63c4052bbd6bf1c7050 Within 10 minutes it was moved out... https://blockchain.info/tx/84ef741c9178a62ca405c7addefe3805ac443dcef1ee3051e5a0a18e1a65cc30 This is the type of low-tech jiggery-pokery that is holding bitcoin back. I'm not sure what current bitcoin devs are doing about this sort of thing but it doesn't seem like the user experience gets much attention when it comes to wallets, clients, paper wallets, and all the various ways to manage personal bitcoins. What do you expect the central bankers to do, if someone leaves a briefcase full of cash in open market ? Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: GermanGiant on August 02, 2015, 10:51:57 AM Yes You Need to be Careful and You need to Keep Your Blockchain Account Details Very Confidentially I Think The Known Peoples Have Crashed out Your Bitcoins. Blockchain Never do Like Cheap Tricks. What do you mean by that... LoLz ?Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Sarthak on August 03, 2015, 02:02:21 PM There are bots to transfer coins as soon as they are deposited!
https://i.imgur.com/LnZHorp.png Just see the time frame...2 BTC deposited and withdrawn within a second :o Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Muhammed Zakir on August 03, 2015, 03:32:53 PM There are bots to transfer coins as soon as they are deposited! https://i.imgur.com/LnZHorp.png Just see the time frame...2 BTC deposited and withdrawn within a second :o User "amaclin" is running a bot. He is already running a bot for sweeping Bitcoins from addresses he bought and from addresses whose private keys were leaked. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: amaclin on August 03, 2015, 03:53:10 PM User "amaclin" is running a bot. He is already running a bot for sweeping Bitcoins from addresses he bought and from addresses whose private keys were leaked. There are dozens of bots which monitor these addresses.Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Muhammed Zakir on August 03, 2015, 04:57:53 PM User "amaclin" is running a bot. He is already running a bot for sweeping Bitcoins from addresses he bought and from addresses whose private keys were leaked. There are dozens of bots which monitor these addresses.I know. I just added you into one of "them". Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: notlist3d on August 03, 2015, 06:03:27 PM This is a pretty amazing error. I cannot imagine someone with 50 BTC making this mistake.
If it is someone new made this mistake... wow would that be one way to make you want nothing to do with BTC. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: 98problems on August 03, 2015, 07:37:20 PM wow thats insane, someone actually might have made a mistake and lost 15000 dollars just because they sent to a wallet with blank passphrase feeling sorry for him
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: GermanGiant on August 05, 2015, 05:31:17 PM wow thats insane, someone actually might have made a mistake and lost 15000 dollars just because they sent to a wallet with blank passphrase feeling sorry for him No one knows whether he is the one who swiped it later. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: mrhelpful on August 05, 2015, 09:54:07 PM A blank passphrase creates the following Address/Private key combination. 50 btc is to large bro, $14500 lost, call fbi or police cyber crime ! I hope you can getb back your money although is impossible1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN / 5KYZdUEo39z3FPrtuX2QbbwGnNP5zTd7yyr2SC1j299sBCnWjss Someone sent 50 BTC today to this 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN... https://blockchain.info/tx/65e1ce741c6f756cf0c36b49a59ba77d7aab82b09acde63c4052bbd6bf1c7050 Within 10 minutes it was moved out... https://blockchain.info/tx/84ef741c9178a62ca405c7addefe3805ac443dcef1ee3051e5a0a18e1a65cc30 once its gone, its gone. theres not much that a fbi, or police cyber crime youre referring to will do much about it besides making a case which wont resolve. its a shame though the security was left as a blank passphrase, so its a huge reminder we need to check our basics and get our self covered. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: techgeek on August 05, 2015, 11:37:24 PM This is a pretty amazing error. I cannot imagine someone with 50 BTC making this mistake. If it is someone new made this mistake... wow would that be one way to make you want nothing to do with BTC. Well if you think thats bad. Theres a guy who lost 74 btc doing a normal transaction with localbitcoins for wanting cash. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1112060.0 The short summary is that the guy got his bitcoin, and instead left his laptop and phone which im guessin were part of the plan. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: luciann on August 06, 2015, 01:30:06 AM A blank passphrase creates the following Address/Private key combination. 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN / 5KYZdUEo39z3FPrtuX2QbbwGnNP5zTd7yyr2SC1j299sBCnWjss Someone sent 50 BTC today to this 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN... https://blockchain.info/tx/65e1ce741c6f756cf0c36b49a59ba77d7aab82b09acde63c4052bbd6bf1c7050 Within 10 minutes it was moved out... https://blockchain.info/tx/84ef741c9178a62ca405c7addefe3805ac443dcef1ee3051e5a0a18e1a65cc30 This is the type of low-tech jiggery-pokery that is holding bitcoin back. I'm not sure what current bitcoin devs are doing about this sort of thing but it doesn't seem like the user experience gets much attention when it comes to wallets, clients, paper wallets, and all the various ways to manage personal bitcoins. I agree on this as well. I could of made the same mistake as this op, based on the userexperience not making it more easier I guess? I still find it very hard to figure out certain things, and esp dont know how to do paper wallets like you mentioned as well. But the passphrase yeah there needs to be something on the wallet obvious for me to click like the send and recieve tab or something similar. Or sets and assign a default password automatically. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: luciann on August 06, 2015, 01:32:36 AM There are bots to transfer coins as soon as they are deposited! https://i.imgur.com/LnZHorp.png Just see the time frame...2 BTC deposited and withdrawn within a second :o User "amaclin" is running a bot. He is already running a bot for sweeping Bitcoins from addresses he bought and from addresses whose private keys were leaked. Is there a thread to this? incase some peoples address he purchased that others can confirm to ditch their address. its pretty crazy how someone does that.. esp running a bot just for that.. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Velkro on August 06, 2015, 05:05:41 AM This is a known address, it's the default example from brainwallet. The person who sent it there either made a donation to the wrong address or made a big mistake, unfortunately. Can't believe person with such funds is so unreliable to himself :oTitle: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Muhammed Zakir on August 06, 2015, 01:39:58 PM There are bots to transfer coins as soon as they are deposited! https://i.imgur.com/LnZHorp.png Just see the time frame...2 BTC deposited and withdrawn within a second :o User "amaclin" is running a bot. He is already running a bot for sweeping Bitcoins from addresses he bought and from addresses whose private keys were leaked. Is there a thread to this? incase some peoples address he purchased that others can confirm to ditch their address. its pretty crazy how someone does that.. esp running a bot just for that.. I think there is no "special" threads. I can confirm this because he sweeped from one of my old address twice and when I analysed that address, I found he has is sweeping from *many* other addresses. I also think he is one of the people who stole Bitcoins when there was a Blockchain.info bug(reused R values). IIIRC, he indirectly agreed he stole Bitcoins. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: amaclin on August 06, 2015, 02:06:14 PM I think there is no "special" threads. I can confirm this because he sweeped from one of my old address This is not your old address (private key). You sold it to me. Now this is my address. And I can do whatever I want with it.Aren't these your words? Thanks! Received! Good trade with you! :) Code: 19pjkRG494kzFuNtK1NT1DkeDGyMTw67be - L1AjaYpTdfxwu5Mii6dHhLE4KdveRAdgdF6xxdNua1UBvDZfxkR2 - Kindly, Muhammed Zakir Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Muhammed Zakir on August 06, 2015, 02:23:20 PM I think there is no "special" threads. I can confirm this because he sweeped from one of my old address This is not your old address (private key). You sold it to me. Now this is my address. And I can do whatever I want with it.Aren't these your words? Thanks! Received! Good trade with you! :) Code: 19pjkRG494kzFuNtK1NT1DkeDGyMTw67be - L1AjaYpTdfxwu5Mii6dHhLE4KdveRAdgdF6xxdNua1UBvDZfxkR2 - Kindly, Muhammed Zakir Yes, you are right. It was mine earlier and that's what I meant. My mistake. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: GermanGiant on August 06, 2015, 05:13:52 PM I think there is no "special" threads. I can confirm this because he sweeped from one of my old address This is not your old address (private key). You sold it to me. Now this is my address. And I can do whatever I want with it.Aren't these your words? Thanks! Received! Good trade with you! :) Code: 19pjkRG494kzFuNtK1NT1DkeDGyMTw67be - L1AjaYpTdfxwu5Mii6dHhLE4KdveRAdgdF6xxdNua1UBvDZfxkR2 - Kindly, Muhammed Zakir Yes, you are right. It was mine earlier and that's what I meant. My mistake. Why on earth you sold your address in the first place ? Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: sana9821 on August 06, 2015, 06:37:13 PM wow thats insane how a small mistake can cause such a big loss, i guess people have to be more careful about all the transactions they make to avoid such bad decisions
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: amaclin on August 06, 2015, 07:13:54 PM Why on earth you sold your address in the first place ? Why not? Private key is something like private property. Why not to sell it if the price is comfortable and there is an agreement between buyer and seller?Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: tearfereon on August 06, 2015, 10:23:01 PM Why on earth you sold your address in the first place ? Why not? Private key is something like private property. Why not to sell it if the price is comfortable and there is an agreement between buyer and seller?WTF Dude? Are you serious? Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Muhammed Zakir on August 07, 2015, 01:55:43 PM -snip- Why on earth you sold your address in the first place ? I really did not understand *completely* about these things. Later onwards, I started understanding more. P.S. I won't be committing such as mistake or similar mistake again! Ever! Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: GermanGiant on August 08, 2015, 11:50:44 PM -snip- Why on earth you sold your address in the first place ? I really did not understand *completely* about these things. Later onwards, I started understanding more. P.S. I won't be committing such as mistake or similar mistake again! Ever! LoLz... I hope you understand *completely* about the Bit-X scam fast... before it is too late. ;) p.s. I am assuming that you are innocent and do not understand how Bit-X is duping bitcoiners. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Muhammed Zakir on August 09, 2015, 04:12:25 AM LoLz... I hope you understand *completely* about the Bit-X scam fast... before it is too late. ;) p.s. I am assuming that you are innocent and do not understand how Bit-X is duping bitcoiners. BIT-X is legit unlike the scam you are advertising. However, it is also possible they are selling more than 1 PH. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: talkbitcoin on August 09, 2015, 04:42:36 AM omg that is a lot of money. but i think nobody is stupid enough to lose that much on blank password
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: GermanGiant on August 09, 2015, 03:42:43 PM LoLz... I hope you understand *completely* about the Bit-X scam fast... before it is too late. ;) p.s. I am assuming that you are innocent and do not understand how Bit-X is duping bitcoiners. BIT-X is legit unlike the scam you are advertising. However, it is also possible they are selling more than 1 PH. Wah.... having 1 Phs vouch and selling more than that... and you call it legit ? It is another AM hash in the making, which will wipe out millions from people once again. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Muhammed Zakir on August 09, 2015, 05:27:27 PM LoLz... I hope you understand *completely* about the Bit-X scam fast... before it is too late. ;) p.s. I am assuming that you are innocent and do not understand how Bit-X is duping bitcoiners. BIT-X is legit unlike the scam you are advertising. However, it is also possible they are selling more than 1 PH. Wah.... having 1 Phs vouch and selling more than that... and you call it legit ? It is another AM hash in the making, which will wipe out millions from people once again. I didn't say they are selling more than 1 PH, instead I said that it is possible/probable. After all, it is not selling hashes out of thin air like CMW. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Timelord2067 on January 23, 2016, 09:18:25 AM And lucky thief is this: https://blockchain.info/address/1A6Ei5cRfDJ8jjhwxfzLJph8B9ZEthR9Z I wonder why the other "double spenders" didn't pay more tx fee? They would have more chance to claim it.. If you go to bitaddress dot org and copy the phrase Quote Open Source JavaScript Client-Side Bitcoin Wallet Generator You get the wallet Quote Bitcoin Address: 1Au4hspRSU8atdx5ZEjYJ5LkpytQRwtB6q Private Key (Wallet Import Format): 5K7iwyAW8BoWLSTk2i1Spf4bD6Rp9BSaFQ9XTKhmYAhPo3SJwFC who's meagre 0.00437805 BTC were sent to the wallet 1A6Ei5cRfDJ8jjhwxfzLJph8B9ZEthR9Z on the 6th of January 2016. If you do the same to the listed wallet 1NiNja1bUmhSoTXozBRBEtR8LeF9TGbZBN you get Quote Bitcoin Address: 1Ns55SngRhshA8kEnyuQ9ELZZPN7ubYfQJ Private Key (Wallet Import Format): 5KPYnrJgFEFYkzUnFiMzWEmhrLAoBaCMpHmbUMuo5PpWx6BfqYz who's tiny 0.00051536 BTC gets sent to 155M7TvBRww6WFdtGQgTYUH8DuLheNafCf which has 75.69881071 BTC right at this very moment (23rd January, 2016) Look at this https://blockchain.info/ru/address/155M7TvBRww6WFdtGQgTYUH8DuLheNafCf tx chain: d31b4d81641ae81ad71d371921af8dc5a6880f787f48220c58b220942df259fa -> 4156cc3456325e4206f891e3a5d1e2cc39b1b87bfb39d5fe6ca83d987197266e -> 98f9366ae3bcce4f325479ae567e0b1185557757acb6955076269c13acf93eaf -> acb9322023da425c2054853b1a6e58a46f040b0fe48ddb771d26d1ec7bcf9c2d -> fafac1f2b61e7cc3a4192f10c6ef0f0d698f477978afe4b5ce36e67d44b35844 -> ... Just wasting space in blocks :( Stop this automated and crazy script please! Will try similar on other brain / paper wallet sites - I suspect this is where the various 1,000 BTC cryptsy wallet funds have ended up. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: fox19891989 on January 26, 2016, 04:39:37 PM :o :o
you should encrypt it your wallet before depositing, 50 btc is a serious amount money, what a pity that you were hacked in 10 minutes, imo hackers may have trojan horses in your computer, what's why you were hacked in just 10 minutes, can't believe, so you learn big lesson from this hack, sorry to hear that. :( Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: notlist3d on January 27, 2016, 12:27:58 AM :o :o you should encrypt it your wallet before depositing, 50 btc is a serious amount money, what a pity that you were hacked in 10 minutes, imo hackers may have trojan horses in your computer, what's why you were hacked in just 10 minutes, can't believe, so you learn big lesson from this hack, sorry to hear that. :( Or look into hardware wallets. They truly are a nice thing to have if your going to use the address a lot. Just adds a lot more security some are so secure even if computer is compromised you are still safe (as long as you did not do something stupid like save seeds on PC). And there is paper wallets for if you truly are not going to touch the BTC. Just make sure to do it properly. People should be using those two options a lot. Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: shrivastav25 on March 21, 2018, 10:49:48 PM I think there is no "special" threads. I can confirm this because he sweeped from one of my old address This is not your old address (private key). You sold it to me. Now this is my address. And I can do whatever I want with it.Aren't these your words? Thanks! Received! Good trade with you! :) Code: 19pjkRG494kzFuNtK1NT1DkeDGyMTw67be - L1AjaYpTdfxwu5Mii6dHhLE4KdveRAdgdF6xxdNua1UBvDZfxkR2 - Kindly, Muhammed Zakir I think you are a scammer because just now I watched the video where your 155 address was mentioned..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7gbX7sfNBs this says you have to download its software and once the user runs it, it scans the system for private keys and bohhhh all money gone.. read the post https://counterpartytalk.org/t/counterwallet-bug-report-amp-technical-support-thread/188/201 Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: Timelord2067 on April 04, 2018, 12:39:06 AM Is this old chest-nut still doing the rounds? Gave me a laugh. Heh.
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: danielkruchin on April 04, 2018, 01:06:28 AM Ok this kind of thing makes me nervous. How do I make sure this never happens to me? ???
Title: Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase Post by: figmentofmyass on April 04, 2018, 01:19:07 AM Ok this kind of thing makes me nervous. How do I make sure this never happens to me? ??? don't use a brainwallet, and you won't get dictionary attacked. it's that simple. most people agree that brainwallets are insecure because humans generally won't choose a passphrase with enough entropy. your passphrase may seem random or hard-to-crack to you, but to a brute-forcing algorithm, it probably isn't. use a wallet like bitcoin core, and this won't happen. |
