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Monero folks are saying it's the creme de la creme of crypto, like the holy grail. The best. They also claim Bytecoin is garbage.

BUT why is it that Monero is a fork of Bytecoin? Also why does Bytecoin have a GUI wallet, but Monero has a DOS-like command line wallet only?

isn't this fucking hilarious, I mean like outrageously fucking hilarious?

It has a gui wallet, look for MoneroX

ok, thanks, checked that out.  PLEASE gimme a break my friend.

that is Windows only .NET wallet (o0) and not even official... checked Bytecoin & they have a cross OS official wallet.

tbh Monero [to me] is mainly hot air talk of some arrogant piece of shit people who are desperate for money so they're bashing everything else as a full time job.

if they have the balls to fork a project, then be a man and give it the credit it deserves... don't be a pussy talking bad about your own father.  It's called manners, and gratitude.


omg

You are one of the countless new accounts created by the bytecoin scammers. Now tell why are you so greedy to mine almost all of the currency for yourself?

nah,

I think ByteCoin and Monero both have 0 future

its just funny to me that monero are discrediting their own father and fuck around with it, where its clearly more advanced.

its like seeing two dorks fighting, the weaker one having the big ass mouth

;) you know what I'm talking about.

Why does official matter to you?

The most popular Bitcoin wallets, Electrum, Multibit, Mycelium, Blockchain.info, Coinbase, Breadwallet, etc. are all what you call unofficial.

The sign of a successful open source project is that all does not disseminate from some central secret cabal or worshiped prophet/developer who runs everything, it comes from a flourishing community that builds on it.


You are right, it is good to be polite about things. Thank you so much Bytecoin for being a bunch of lying, defrauding, sock-puppet-operating, manipulative, greedy scumbags (who occasionally pump their premine stash with retarded non-innovations like closed-source wallets with, OMG!, color-schemes, and impenetrable github bulk commits of uncommented and/or comment-stripped code). Without you, there would be no Monero.

yamn, another desperate newbie account attacking Monero :D I would pay 1,000 XMR to see their faces when Monero is at $100.

but of course they own Monero, they are just mad no one gives 2 piconero to their scams.

You are welcome to check my own extensive research into the matter over on the Monero subreddit, which includes many linked comments from when Bytecoin first surfaced and people figured out that it was 80% premined: 
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3f2fpd/the_strange_birth_history_of_monero_part_i_wtf_is/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3f2fpd/the_strange_birth_history_of_monero_part_i_wtf_is/)

Man you are so wrong, they did not fork Bytecoin, they stole bitmonero from thankful_for_today, the real creator.

Is it true????

They are a bunch of thieves that dont understand the tech of the coin they stole, this is fucking hilarious.

No it is not true.

Nobody "stole" bitmonero, it's still there:

https://github.com/bitmonero-project/bitmonero

What was done is forking it, which is what happens when open source projects are run by retards and/or people who behave like retards and who lose the confidence of the community.

Please tell the "community" why when you launch bitmonero for the first time it creates a folder bitmonero. What exactly did you changed? Dont answer that, i know, NOTHING


Please just tell the true, that you guys dont know nothing about Bytecoin code.

If you guys want to be respected, please create a coin and the code from scratch like yours fathers did.

Don't insult the intelligence of the community by promoting thankful_for_today project as your work.

You just stole is project because he did not make the changes that you devs wanted.

Sounds like you should be happy, bitmonero lives on!

BTW,

bitmonero-project repo: 67 commits
monero-project repo:1072 commits

Something tells me you don't quite have this story right.

That's okay though, you'll still get paid for your sock puppet trolling.

@smooth

Well, i can tell you that i was here when bitmonero was created and i liked the coin immediately, but i don´t like your attitude from disrespect of others coins.

the most disgusting in you are the lack of gratitude for bytecoin/cryptonote creators.

If you are so good please create a code for your coin.

Now i must agree with you, when bitmonero, ups, sorry, monero going down i am gonna cash out.

Which coins does he "disrespect"? He's publicly critical about 2 projects, both inheriting an obviously shady history. This has nothing to do with lack of gratitude, but with being honest and sceptic about some weird and probably fraudulent backgrounds concerning these projects. We are not painting landscapes in oil here, there are people investing their hard earned money in thrustworthy open source software, and the least they deserve is honesty and public legitimacy. Why is r/Bytecoin not public btw?

Maybe you don't have the brain to think around corners, but isn't smooths dedication of his ressources AND his lifetime to crytonote tech not enough of a gratitude? The more i read about BCN and DSH, the more i get convinced about their greed driven backrounds at the expense of their honest (and unfortunately naive) supportes.

@whap

So, you keep calling them scammers, and then you want to enter the team.

Why is r/Bytcoin not public, please dad let me enter, lol.

They don't care what you say or think, they have a great plan and you are not in it. lol.

Man, look at your coin, is a disgrace by is lack of development. The people that are buying moneros are unfortunately naive supporters.

Thanks, that's all i wanted to hear  :-* Hey, i guess your mom is calling you for lunch!

Everyone around here is greedy, don't kid yourselves, you don't think someone like smooth isn't looking to get rich either? Besides what is the point of currency but to accumulate it and spend it and make money, it is the essence of capitalism.

Anyway the only thing I disagree with about the original Bytecoin devs is how they tried to cover up their premine shenanigans. I think they should have been more honest and been like, we created this revolutionary new crypto tech, we are proud of our work and believe we should be compensated for it and will be distributing all of the coins at xx cents a piece on __ exchange for the community to distribute, if you don't like it, don't buy.

No one calls Factom or Ethereum a scam because they chose to premine the majority of the supply and sell it off as an ICO. The cryptonote team should have done something similar.

Well said solid12345

I don't really think the ICO model is going to stand the test of time, but at least it is more honest in the sense that, as you say, if you don't like, don't buy.

When investors stop buying then we'll have to come up with something more sustainable, but whatever that is, I'm sure honest and talented developers will still do fine with it.

There will always be scammers though, trying to get even more for less.

@whap
@smooth

Do you know who this gentleman is? I think you do.

Please look at the date, almost half a year has passed and the post is up to date, lol, how is that possible. :o :o :o :o :o


Please monero devs, stop scamming people, once and for all, just tell that you dont understand what you are doing.

Just like smooth says in several topics, i feel the obligation of alert new  users of this forum, for is lack of information.

Please dont need to thank me.

Exactly, that's why i don't trust anyone owning more than 80% of a coin. The market is under their control, and i'm exposed to their arbitrariness.

You have a jr. account, did you read my post, no need to thank me. :) :)

80% ownership by a single party of a cryptonote coin (such as Bytecoin) also destroys much of its utility, as that party can easily de-anonymize other users (since they will control the vast majority of the outputs).

Newb accounts that don't accomplish anything - they can't even push the price down far enough for my buy orders to fill. Stupid kids trolls can't do anything right nowadays!

because xmr does not have any real developers?

 :-X
Please don't say that, it's a secret... in this forum... not somewhere else.

They gonna call us bad names, like troll, child, kids, etc ....

GUI mainly influences usability.  Usability will be more important once many people start using CryptoNote coins as currencies.

At this point no CryptoNote economy is well established. Technical differences between coins are more important than GUI concerns at this point.

Boolberry has a GUI but it is not our largest advantage.
https://twitter.com/BBRcurrency/status/627037831412756480

Can you tell how long do you have a GUI wallet?

Trolleros devs think that the important is to have a CLI, lol, no upgrade is needed.

Please respect the Monero development team. They have done many interesting things already, such as OpenAlias which is now being integrated into Electrum. My post was clear. I do not think a GUI is the most important thing at this point. As an economy develops it will become more important.

As others have pointed out, web wallets and 3rd party solutions (like Electrum) can also play a role