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Title: ppcoin is taking coins away from me instead of giving them to me
Post by: c4pt on September 29, 2012, 09:04:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/M0qPN.png














I had a balance of 10k~ ppc a few days ago







ppcoin client is taking blocks away from me?



Status: 326 confirmations
Date: 27 Sep 2012 05:26
Debit: 0.00 PPC
Net amount: -2413.62 PPC
Transaction ID: 1d8a0a985a8766716d4a690c35ffd7595ad244150ec58f6065f5af8aa8a58f5e




Status: 263 confirmations
Date: 28 Sep 2012 00:14
Debit: 0.00 PPC
Net amount: -2341.39 PPC
Transaction ID: f95c6b93c789cf9bcdcdbe0976bf6d6fca6cf12ee64873c01de41f814592da22



Status: 1/unconfirmed
Date: 29 Sep 2012 16:47
Debit: 0.00 PPC
Net amount: -1360.60 PPC
Transaction ID: 008aaadf12ec6abb379b71c7c0077fe749c6c18dfae3aade37b2c4ed48bc16a3




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Title: Re: ppcoin is taking coins away from me instead of giving them to me
Post by: smoothie on September 29, 2012, 09:16:39 PM
Don't have a clue. But what I couldn't help notice is that with all this "innovation" the "developer" couldn't even change the client title from "Bitcoin" to "PPC".

Fucking fail.....lol  :D

$100k-$200k over "development" time and he couldn't change/correct that?

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: ppcoin is taking coins away from me instead of giving them to me
Post by: markm on September 29, 2012, 09:28:37 PM
Check your "stake". Supposedly your coins turn into "stake" when used to create stake blocks, then turn back into balance 30 days or whatever later.

Any you do not want used as stake you can set a hold back value of how much to not use as stake and thus to keep as balance.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: ppcoin is taking coins away from me instead of giving them to me
Post by: c4pt on September 29, 2012, 09:42:20 PM
oh ok thanx


Title: Re: ppcoin is taking coins away from me instead of giving them to me
Post by: TheSeven on September 29, 2012, 09:53:05 PM
Don't have a clue. But what I couldn't help notice is that with all this "innovation" the "developer" couldn't even change the client title from "Bitcoin" to "PPC".

Fucking fail.....lol  :D

$100k-$200k over "development" time and he couldn't change/correct that?

 ;D ;D ;D

Your ignore button really shouldn't only be highlighted, it should be blinking, seriously.
If you had paid any attention at all, you'd have noticed that these ppcoin GUIs are not even from the original ppcoin developers, but instead built by community volunteers. Your behavior is extremely harsh to those volunteers.
And I really wonder which $100-200k you're talking about...


Title: Re: ppcoin is taking coins away from me instead of giving them to me
Post by: dreamwatcher on September 29, 2012, 11:14:21 PM
Check your "stake". Supposedly your coins turn into "stake" when used to create stake blocks, then turn back into balance 30 days or whatever later.

Any you do not want used as stake you can set a hold back value of how much to not use as stake and thus to keep as balance.

-MarkM-


Actually the coins become available again once the block is confirmed 520 times, the same as the POW blocks and the coins generated in the POS block.

30 days is the amount of time a coin(s) need to sit unspent in order to be eligible to create a POS block.


Added: Basically the "Missing" coins were converted to "stake". If you do a command line ppcoind getinfo , you will see the coins under stake. Once the block they created matures (520 confirms) the coins in stake used to generate the block return to balance + the block reward will be put into your balance.

Example : Transaction ID: 008aaadf12ec6abb379b71c7c0077fe749c6c18dfae3aade37b2c4ed48bc16a3

http://www.ppcexplore.org:2750/tx/008aaadf12ec6abb379b71c7c0077fe749c6c18dfae3aade37b2c4ed48bc16a3

You mined proof of stake block 7768

http://www.ppcexplore.org:2750/block/8652fd35b43ce21007c9c04d927930a5fccc84b2a9daf00b7b456c95f82f2dbd

When that block matures you will receive the 1360 PPC generated, and the coins used to generate that block (in stake) will also be returned to balance. Corrected by TheSeven. POS reward is 1%.


Title: Re: ppcoin is taking coins away from me instead of giving them to me
Post by: TheSeven on September 30, 2012, 12:36:07 AM
When that block matures you will receive the 1360 PPC generated, and the coins used to generate that block (in stake) will also be returned to balance.
Please note that the 1362.05 PPC include both the stake input (1360.60 PPC) and the proof of stake block reward ("interest", 1.45 PPC).
So the 1360.60 PPC generated a proof of stake block, got locked until it matures (520 blocks), and you get 1.45 PPC as a reward.


Title: Re: ppcoin is taking coins away from me instead of giving them to me
Post by: Sunny King on September 30, 2012, 03:25:54 AM
Yeah unfortunately gui is still not supported at this moment. You can check your stake amount with command line getinfo, but I believe there is at least one community gui wallet displaying the stake value but I don't remember which one does.


Title: Re: ppcoin is taking coins away from me instead of giving them to me
Post by: c4pt on September 30, 2012, 04:09:22 AM
oh ok thanx I wasnt sure what was going on I thought the client had some kind of strange bug in it.

seeing 0.00 generated and negative blocks i wasnt sure if it was stake or a bug. thanks for clearing this up


Title: Re: ppcoin is taking coins away from me instead of giving them to me
Post by: Sunny King on September 30, 2012, 04:27:12 AM
oh ok thanx I wasnt sure what was going on I thought the client had some kind of strange bug in it.

seeing 0.00 generated and negative blocks i wasnt sure if it was stake or a bug. thanks for clearing this up

Alternatively you can also watch dreamwatcher's block explorer and the balance shown on your address there includes everything (balance, newmint and stake). Remember you may have multiple addresses.