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Title: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: halim on August 02, 2015, 06:33:15 PM
hi

I dont understand why (most) of people hate these guys hackers,Scammers,carders... , Note : Im not talking about Hacker,Scammers,... kids type because all they want is fun and they are stupid (most of the time)  ok .


Lets go to the bottom of this :

hackers (Type: money hunters) ,Scammers,carders are normal and very nice people but never had the chance for a good life , if you hate them its just because you are in a good life , you have a nice father and a sweet mom called maybe "sarah" right ? and with lots of cash.

But these people have a father called "saw-Fuck-face" and a mom called "Face-Fuck-Son" and they live in a life called "sadness" , i know some of you will never understand but some people have no optionts Forexample in africa and other countries  .


This world is not fair.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on August 02, 2015, 06:37:05 PM
ähhmm....what?!


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: hexafraction on August 02, 2015, 06:38:11 PM
Here's what you need to understand: If you're able to access and use Bitcoin, you are most likely able to access the Internet. Now, thanks to a vibrant and growing Bitcoin community, and a bit of work by yourself applying or learning a skill, you can earn far more coins than by scamming, through honest work, on places such as /r/Jobs4Bitcoins and here. Thus, a potential hacker/carder/etc can get the chance for a good life they didn't have before.

In fact, someone might have had no chance for a good life. They finally get their chance, for example on the forum, and then a scammer scams them. Surely that's not morally acceptable to you, even if scamming others is.

Otherwise, no matter the circumstances, stealing is stealing.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: shorena on August 02, 2015, 06:39:36 PM
-snip-
This world is not fair.

No its not and while hate is a pretty strong word I dont like scammers because they are scamming people. They dont check first whether someone has a golden spoon in their mouth or not, they are as much a part of the problem as rich scammers.

I like hackers, but I think we have a different understanding of the word.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: halim on August 02, 2015, 06:44:12 PM
ähhmm....what?!


Nothing bro im just trolling  :-[


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: addy boy on August 02, 2015, 06:49:06 PM
hi

I dont understand why (most) of people hate these guys hackers,Scammers,carders... , Note : Im not talking about Hacker,Scammers,... kids type because all they want is fun and they are stupid (most of the time)  ok .


Lets go to the bottom of this :

hackers (Type: money hunters) ,Scammers,carders are normal and very nice people but never had the chance for a good life , if you hate them its just because you are in a good life , you have a nice father and a sweet mom called maybe "sarah" right ? and with lots of cash.

But these people have a father called "saw-Fuck-face" and a mom called "Face-Fuck-Son" and they live in a life called "sadness" , i know some of you will never understand but some people have no optionts Forexample in africa and other countries  .


This world is not fair.
hope what you have said is true but some do it for money


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on August 03, 2015, 02:48:46 PM
ähhmm....what?!


Nothing bro im just trolling  :-[

hope so  :P


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: Lauda on August 03, 2015, 02:56:22 PM
No its not and while hate is a pretty strong word I dont like scammers because they are scamming people. They dont check first whether someone has a golden spoon in their mouth or not, they are as much a part of the problem as rich scammers.

I like hackers, but I think we have a different understanding of the word.
Welcome to reality. However, OP should know that this really comes down to the perspective. Unless the person is winning at the moment, a good part of his/her life will seem unfair.
While we can not change the cards that we are dealt, we can change how we play the hand. Life is a competition, although humans do not prefer to realize this.

Which ones do you have in mind?
https://i.imgur.com/WFiQYqg.png


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: Slunt on August 03, 2015, 02:59:31 PM
Life might not be fair but that doesn't mean you can go around stealing from innocent people. Not all the time they had bad parents and some just do it because they can or for greed. Most wont have the balls to commit crimes in the real world but feel safe and comfy doing it from behind their computers which is pretty cowadly.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: shorena on August 03, 2015, 03:39:40 PM
-snip-
Which ones do you have in mind?
https://i.imgur.com/WFiQYqg.png

Essentially all of the above without the cracker part of #1. The way I understood OP they use hacker where I would say script kiddie.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: RodeoX on August 03, 2015, 03:52:02 PM
Ah, so if you feel bad you deserve to steal.  :-\
Well, I don't have a bass boat and I feel awful about it.  I think I'll take the OP's identity and stick him with the bill. Seems only fair in light of my un-boatedness. 


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: CEG5952 on August 03, 2015, 04:24:24 PM
OP is so high he doesn't understand what he just typed. You know how they work right?

Scammers - They feed their families with stolen money
Carders - They enjoy goods using stolen funds
Hackers - Really?


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: Andy4.4 on August 03, 2015, 05:27:09 PM
I don't hate hackers.
I love them and also want to be one of them.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: Linuld on August 23, 2015, 01:01:24 PM
hi

I dont understand why (most) of people hate these guys hackers,Scammers,carders... , Note : Im not talking about Hacker,Scammers,... kids type because all they want is fun and they are stupid (most of the time)  ok .


Lets go to the bottom of this :

hackers (Type: money hunters) ,Scammers,carders are normal and very nice people but never had the chance for a good life , if you hate them its just because you are in a good life , you have a nice father and a sweet mom called maybe "sarah" right ? and with lots of cash.

But these people have a father called "saw-Fuck-face" and a mom called "Face-Fuck-Son" and they live in a life called "sadness" , i know some of you will never understand but some people have no optionts Forexample in africa and other countries  .


This world is not fair.

Haha, you are funny. Why do you hate people that take things from you that you worked for? They take it because they don't want to work for it. They could work for it but they chose not to. They want the easy way and hopefully they get an easy life for it, behind bars. There they get their daily meal and they should be happy since they don't need to work for it.

Having a bad past does not excuse chosing to steal from others. It might mean they did not have the time to form their own morals but then they will meet people that think differently about that. And if they got hated then they have to think.

No, there is simply no excuse for chosing the easy way by screwing others.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: Linuld on August 23, 2015, 01:05:17 PM
I like hackers, but I think we have a different understanding of the word.

Exactly... hackers is a word that is used very different in the media than hackers see it themselfes. Hacker never would steal or destroy something. Those are crackers.

But i think no one really cares about the difference outside of the community.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: andysbizz on August 23, 2015, 01:20:04 PM
ähhmm....what?!


Nothing bro im just trolling  :-[

haha, I thought so, otherwise it is very strange  ;D


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: Jesu on August 23, 2015, 01:38:49 PM
Why do people hate dishonest thieves? I don't really buy the excuse that most of them wern't raised right. Most are just greedy and are using their 'skills' to line their own pockets. If they had the desire they could use their skills for good or get a decent job, but they're probably too lazy for that.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: hexafraction on August 23, 2015, 01:49:22 PM
Why do people hate dishonest thieves? I don't really buy the excuse that most of them wern't raised right. Most are just greedy and are using their 'skills' to line their own pockets. If they had the desire they could use their skills for good or get a decent job, but they're probably too lazy for that.

Emphasis on the word lazy. I would be somewhat annoyed if I were easily able to absorb the loss of a theft, but for someone that themselves is working hard and has minimal opportunity (i.e. similar circumstances to such dishonest thieves but wasn't lazy to use skills for good) such a theft is a major setback.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: chinapeople on August 23, 2015, 04:04:20 PM
I dont like crackers because they have not much taste. You cant eat them in the bed with no mess. But what is good is if you have little money they are cheap.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: Avarosan on October 29, 2015, 10:29:01 AM
Lel it doesnt make any sense XD if someone hacks your account is just frustrating.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: FanEagle on October 29, 2015, 11:38:23 AM
Let's say thing straight:
White Hat
Grey Hat
Black Hat.
Then there are scammers which are fine art of stealing from others.
Carders which are good in having some sort of stuff.
Even white hats do it for money, that's how they get good jobs.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: Willump on October 29, 2015, 01:04:21 PM
Well its not fun to get hacked so I don't like them so that's why I am hating them.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: bojan92 on October 29, 2015, 02:00:16 PM
The people with a golden spoon are just a small percentage of the people scammed. I am working hard for my money, and i should be willing to give them to some scammer from Africa, i don't think so. You should find a way to earn money, not to steal. There are a lot of ways to earn money, so i would always hate this kind of people.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: cantbeliveyou on October 29, 2015, 06:45:40 PM
I hate scammers because instead of tryng to earn money from a good way they someone's else money.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: SebastianJu on October 29, 2015, 06:49:49 PM
Because no one likes to be taken away things you trust on being yours.

And these guys simply got the easy way. There are other ways but they chose the risky and short time gain. Well, if they spend their time in jail they might think again about this. I mean if that was the fast way really.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: Vika NSFW on October 29, 2015, 06:50:07 PM
carders

This genere of shit people use stolen money to become cam shows, but the money will be charge backed by credit card processor.

Cam Models lost their time to earn to living in that mode.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: rigel on October 29, 2015, 07:59:05 PM
Not all scammers and crackers are poor guys in need.

Sometimes behind crackers there are big criminal organizations. I hate these organisations.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: knightkon on December 09, 2015, 02:55:11 AM
What alot of people do not realize is that these people are the reason why we have the security we have right now.  Some larger companies hire them to break into their systems and find the weak spots for them.  This allows them to make sure we are secured when we use their service.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: danstanit on December 30, 2015, 12:01:40 AM
Scammers are the same thing as fraud, I have had identity theft which made my life a living hell for almost a year.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: CoinBoerse.com on December 30, 2015, 12:38:58 AM
I can't stand people that say they can hack and when it comes down to it they can't do it.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: SebastianJu on January 03, 2016, 10:42:58 PM
Scammers are the same thing as fraud, I have had identity theft which made my life a living hell for almost a year.

Care to explain how your identity was stolen so that others can prevent that from happening with their identity? Did you give a copy of your ID to the wrong person?


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: SebastianJu on January 03, 2016, 10:45:00 PM
What alot of people do not realize is that these people are the reason why we have the security we have right now.  Some larger companies hire them to break into their systems and find the weak spots for them.  This allows them to make sure we are secured when we use their service.

You speak about hackers. Hackers think of themselves as the good persons which they normally are, the other persons that steal with hacking are named crackers by them.

Though the word hacker was changed into negativity by newspapers so now everyone thinks of the people behind as the bad guys.

Though scammers and carders are criminals regardless.

I think the thread was about the criminals anyway only.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: SebastianJu on January 03, 2016, 10:46:47 PM
I can't stand people that say they can hack and when it comes down to it they can't do it.

I guess they might be able to hack but it depends on the level of security of the site they want to get in. Professional hackers don't only use their computer, they use social engineering and similar things to exploit the human weakness in the game.

Though still... some security setups might be simply too hard.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: DebitMe on January 03, 2016, 10:48:58 PM
I hate people who steal from others regardless of if it is online or in person.  Anyone who takes something from someone else that they did not earn or were freely given is just a scummy individual in my opinion.  They are taking the easy way out and instead of working hard and advancing society, they are only out there for the betterment of themselves.  There are just some terrible terrible people in this world that don't care who they harm or the consequences of their actions and it hurts everyone.


Title: Re: Why do you hate hackers,Scammers,carders ?
Post by: Ruzka on January 03, 2016, 10:53:27 PM
I do not hate many people and in fact hate is a nasty horrible word and emotion. Scammers are just plain wrong and normally have serious attitude problems to say the least. I don't hate them though but can't say I like them much.
Hackers are usually decent people who live a good life albeit to some on the wrong side. To me they are what helps bring truth to the world and many of them actually have some honor and decency about them. A true hacker is someone I'd like to be friends with.
Carders are not great clearly but I don't hate them either, they just do what they do to survive and maybe one day will face what they have done on their own.