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Title: What is WWF's position on trophy hunting
Post by: Wilikon on August 05, 2015, 11:27:39 PM






Q. What is WWF's position on trophy hunting
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WWF does not promote or support hunting generally and is opposed to hunting that threatens species or habitat sustainability. At the same time, WWF recognises that communities use their wildlife and these uses include hunting and fishing.

As a leading conservation organisation, WWF works to address illegal or unsustainable exploitation of wildlife. Within this framework, WWF accepts or supports hunting in a very limited number of contexts where it is culturally appropriate, legal and effectively regulated, and has demonstrated environmental and community benefits.




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/11785785/Cecil-the-lion-legal-hunting-can-help-conservation-says-Rory-Stewart.html


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Title: Re: What is WWF's position on trophy hunting
Post by: TECSHARE on August 06, 2015, 01:20:00 AM
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Title: Re: What is WWF's position on trophy hunting
Post by: Possum577 on August 06, 2015, 04:20:49 AM
Is this a joke?

Wil, did you ever think the WWF wouldn't be against trophy hunting ANIMALS?

Maybe you're being sarcastic...

Here's a list of a ton of organizations against the sport hunting of animals, game, and fish -> http://www.all-creatures.org/links/hunt.html


Title: Re: What is WWF's position on trophy hunting
Post by: Wilikon on August 06, 2015, 03:04:20 PM
Is this a joke?

Wil, did you ever think the WWF wouldn't be against trophy hunting ANIMALS?

Maybe you're being sarcastic...

Here's a list of a ton of organizations against the sport hunting of animals, game, and fish -> http://www.all-creatures.org/links/hunt.html


Trophy Hunting Can Help African Conservation, Study Says







Trophy hunting can play an essential role in the conservation of African wildlife, according to a growing number of biologists.

Now some experts are calling for a program to regulate Africa's sport-hunting industry to ensure its conservation benefits.


According to a recent study, in the 23 African countries that allow sport hunting, 18,500 tourists pay over $200 million (U.S.) a year to hunt lions, leopards, elephants, warthogs, water buffalo, impala, and rhinos.

Private hunting operations in these countries control more than 540,000 square miles (1.4 million square kilometers) of land, the study also found. That's 22 percent more land than is protected by national parks.

As demand for land increases with swelling human populations, some conservationists are arguing that they can garner more effective results by working with hunters and taking a hand in regulating the industry.

Sport hunting can be sustainable if carefully managed, said Peter Lindsey, a conservation biologist with the University of Zimbabwe in Harare, who led the recent study.

"Trophy hunting is of key importance to conservation in Africa by creating [financial] incentives to promote and retain wildlife as a land use over vast areas," he said.

In an upcoming edition of the journal Conservation Biology Lindsey and an international team of colleagues call for a plan to increase the conservation benefits of sport hunting, including a certification program to more tightly regulate the industry.

"To justify the continued existence of [protected] areas in the context of increasing demand for land, wildlife has to pay for itself and contribute to the economy, and hunting provides an important means of achieving this," Lindsey said.

Hunting's Checkered Past

In order to be certified under Lindsey's proposed plan, hunting operations would have to prove their commitment to animal welfare, careful management of hunting quotas, wide-ranging conservation objectives, and the development of local communities.

"The time has come for greater scrutiny from scientists to promote maximum conservation benefits from hunting," Lindsey said.



http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/03/070315-hunting-africa.html


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Title: Re: What is WWF's position on trophy hunting
Post by: Nemo1024 on August 06, 2015, 04:17:48 PM
I know what my position on hunting is: if you are going to hunt, then you'd better have proof that you or your loved ones were really hungry.

One of the few things that distincts humans from the rest of the animals, is that some "humans" are hunting for entertainment.

As for conservation of endangered species, I urge everyone to take a look at and support the pioneers in this field, Durrell Wildlife Conservation Trust (of which I am a life-time member and regular donor/adopter)

http://www.durrell.org/conservation/


Title: Re: What is WWF's position on trophy hunting
Post by: peligro on August 28, 2015, 01:56:37 PM
The WWF, built to do things under a green cape that otherwise could not happen. Like claiming rain forest is unused land and allowing to plant oiltrees on there. The WWF was build to make things like that possible. And they have the most money of all these organisations. Because those who profit from it are rich already.

And trophy hunting is important. Most of these reservates only survive with the money coming from that. Take that away and the only thing you get are poachers.

Might be that it is not nice but most of the animals killed there would have to be killed anyway because they need to be regulated in order to not destroy the environment.


Title: Re: What is WWF's position on trophy hunting
Post by: Wilikon on August 28, 2015, 03:25:00 PM
The WWF, built to do things under a green cape that otherwise could not happen. Like claiming rain forest is unused land and allowing to plant oiltrees on there. The WWF was build to make things like that possible. And they have the most money of all these organisations. Because those who profit from it are rich already.

And trophy hunting is important. Most of these reservates only survive with the money coming from that. Take that away and the only thing you get are poachers.

Might be that it is not nice but most of the animals killed there would have to be killed anyway because they need to be regulated in order to not destroy the environment.


Yep.




Title: Re: What is WWF's position on trophy hunting
Post by: Kolla on August 29, 2015, 11:32:15 AM

Well since the WWF was founded by European royalty (Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands) they would not mind so much if they shoot for trophy. If we ordinary people do that we are in big trouble.


Title: Re: What is WWF's position on trophy hunting
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 29, 2015, 01:23:27 PM

Well since the WWF was founded by European royalty (Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands) they would not mind so much if they shoot for trophy. If we ordinary people do that we are in big trouble.

This has nothing to do with the royal connections, but more to do with commonsense. Trophy hunters pay anywhere from $10,000 to $100,000 to hunt just a single wind animal. This much money can be used to employ a dozen forest guards in Africa, there by preventing the poaching of hundreds of animals every year.


Title: Re: What is WWF's position on trophy hunting
Post by: Kolla on August 29, 2015, 01:55:50 PM

Well since the WWF was founded by European royalty (Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands) they would not mind so much if they shoot for trophy. If we ordinary people do that we are in big trouble.

This has nothing to do with the royal connections, but more to do with commonsense. Trophy hunters pay anywhere from $10,000 to $100,000 to hunt just a single wind animal. This much money can be used to employ a dozen forest guards in Africa, there by preventing the poaching of hundreds of animals every year.

And guess where the former Spanish King Juan Carlos went hunting? In Africa and he is still member of WWF. Our king at least hunts boar and other game (which are tame and fed by humans) but Juan Carlos did not mind shooting Elephants.


Title: Re: What is WWF's position on trophy hunting
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 29, 2015, 03:22:23 PM
And guess where the former Spanish King Juan Carlos went hunting? In Africa and he is still member of WWF. Our king at least hunts boar and other game (which are tame and fed by humans) but Juan Carlos did not mind shooting Elephants.

In some of the African nations, the elephant population has gone out of control. This is damaging the vegetation, thereby making things difficult for a number of the endangered species. Countries such as South Africa are planning to cull a part of the wild elephant population. So there is nothing wrong in hunting one or two elephants.


Title: Re: What is WWF's position on trophy hunting
Post by: Linuld on September 01, 2015, 01:44:55 PM
And guess where the former Spanish King Juan Carlos went hunting? In Africa and he is still member of WWF. Our king at least hunts boar and other game (which are tame and fed by humans) but Juan Carlos did not mind shooting Elephants.

In some of the African nations, the elephant population has gone out of control. This is damaging the vegetation, thereby making things difficult for a number of the endangered species. Countries such as South Africa are planning to cull a part of the wild elephant population. So there is nothing wrong in hunting one or two elephants.

Though it's hard to decide if you really shoot the elephants since, at least in india, the humans are guilty for a big part. They take away land from the elephants constantly so that they have less and less space. It leads to elephants going wild and there was even a case described where an elephant started to eat humans.

I think they are somewhat alike to humans emotionally. And humans start to get crazy too sometimes.

I'm not sure if the population was growing so much too or if it only was the take-away of elephant land.


Title: Re: What is WWF's position on trophy hunting
Post by: RodeoX on September 01, 2015, 01:52:09 PM
man, where I grew up hunting predators is a sin. It's the most cowardly kind of hunting and with no other purpose than to kill. It's what people who don't know about nature hunt. Every hunting tradition I have come into contact with is appalled by the practice.


Title: Re: What is WWF's position on trophy hunting
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 01, 2015, 05:08:04 PM
Though it's hard to decide if you really shoot the elephants since, at least in india, the humans are guilty for a big part. They take away land from the elephants constantly so that they have less and less space. It leads to elephants going wild and there was even a case described where an elephant started to eat humans.

You can't compare Indian elephants with African elephants. The Indian elephant is an endangered species, and it is threatened with extinction (due to the rampant poaching for ivory). On the other hand, the African elephant is being described as a species which is in "no perceivable danger". In Africa, it is the elephant which is endangering the other species.