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Title: ETH Speculation
Post by: Abiky on August 07, 2015, 03:21:22 PM
What do you think ETH (Ether) price would be when it becomes available at exchanges? I think that once Ethereum makes a stable release, Ethers might be worth $10 or $20 (maybe?)  ::)

I would like to know what are your thoughts about this. Thank You  :D


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: benthach on August 07, 2015, 03:41:58 PM
the price is already at around $3 to $4 a piece for 100,000,000 ethos
market cap already $300,000,000 to $500,000,000
just wait when everyone get a hold of their ethoruems! lol


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: GTO911 on August 07, 2015, 03:55:51 PM
Will die out like most of these 2.0 coins


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: ً؛قو on August 07, 2015, 04:12:27 PM
Oh dear another suckers coin living on hype for a little while and having the same faith as anything else produced in recent times that is easy copied at no cost. Lets look at it in a years time.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: Denker on August 07, 2015, 04:29:37 PM
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What do you think ETH (Ether) price would be when it becomes available at exchanges? I think that once Ethereum makes a stable release, Ethers might be worth $10 or $20 (maybe?)  Roll Eyes

I would like to know what are your thoughts about this. Thank You  Cheesy

All the way down is my wild guess. But don't count on me on that.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: sofu on August 07, 2015, 04:36:20 PM
wait a little bit. not many ETH flooding the exchanges now. price will go down.

I hope bitfinex or okcoin will add it and give us a opportunity to short ETH


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: solid12345 on August 07, 2015, 04:43:50 PM
Will die out like most of these 2.0 coins

Except ETH isn't a coin it's a platform.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: nakaone on August 07, 2015, 04:46:21 PM
is there any place where i can find its economic fundamentals?

I remember them collecting 30000 btc and using a pow (?) - what is the inflation etc pp?


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: devilfischer on August 07, 2015, 04:48:05 PM
Well, if anybody is interested at getting in right now at 5% below Kraken exchange rate than PM me for copy of contract.

I'm selling 1K ETH for BTC through multi-sig escrow on bittrader.com -
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1146512.0


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: ً؛قو on August 07, 2015, 04:53:11 PM
Will die out like most of these 2.0 coins

Except ETH isn't a coin it's a platform.
Yeh will make a nice splash. What platform level will you use to jump from?
https://i.imgur.com/cMEXWLm.jpg


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: GTO911 on August 07, 2015, 05:15:52 PM
Will die out like most of these 2.0 coins

Except ETH isn't a coin it's a platform.

Lol general folks are still too dumb to use Bitcoin and you are pushing for some other advanced non needed crap


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: Abiky on August 07, 2015, 05:21:10 PM
Can anyone tell me what exchanges is ETH in? I want to know because I would want to buy a couple of them just for holding them. Who knows? Maybe I'll get lucky.  :)


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: Abiky on August 07, 2015, 05:26:27 PM
I've checked out Coinmarketcap and Ethereum is listed as #3 in market cap? It even surpassed Litecoin. That was fast....

http://cdn.img42.com/170a3de226aac84c808df90edffcaf6f.png


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: o0‡0o on August 07, 2015, 05:29:54 PM
I've checked out Coinmarketcap and Ethereum is listed as #3 in market cap? It even surpassed Litecoin. That was fast....

http://cdn.img42.com/170a3de226aac84c808df90edffcaf6f.png
Didn't take long to take a dive. $ 151,524,899 now



Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: solid12345 on August 07, 2015, 05:40:37 PM

Lol general folks are still too dumb to use Bitcoin and you are pushing for some other advanced non needed crap

This is Ethereum's greatest strength actually, it's not setting out to try to change the world economy and the way we view money but just carve out a place in the IT/tech sector which is better understood by fellow nerds and tech enthusiasts.
 
If companies find it can save or make them money, then it WILL Thrive. So far Bitcoin has failed to convince most merchants or corporations on why it would be beneficial to them using it, and I say this as someone who wants to see it succeed.

Plus using Ether as the fuel to run DAPPS creates inherent buy pressure that Bitcoin does not have which makes it a good investment. Personally I regret not buying into the ICO.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: Alley on August 07, 2015, 06:31:50 PM
Current price is $2.78.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: hankman on August 07, 2015, 06:32:40 PM
ETH was the best investment at the time. Every other cryptocoin crashed hard. I should have bought more ETH.

$5 ETH is going to be looking so cheap when it's $50 and over a billion $ marketcap.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: HalFinneysBrain on August 07, 2015, 07:17:01 PM
ETH was the best investment at the time. Every other cryptocoin crashed hard. I should have bought more ETH.

$5 ETH is going to be looking so cheap when it's $50 and over a billion $ marketcap.

$5 ETH is going to look so expensive, when its under a buck. 

As soon as people can get their ETH to exchanges and sell it will start dropping. 

High inflation from POW mining this year is also going to weigh on it.

It'll be a good buy once it comes down to earth.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: montaga on August 07, 2015, 07:18:43 PM
Its Software right? Try Ctrl + C  it does wonders at times.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: BigSirko on August 07, 2015, 07:19:27 PM
It's only on one exchange and the first day or days of trading is always price discovery.  Reality is volume is too low to sustain such high prices, especially when many people are sitting on an overnight ROI between 7x-10x and yet volume is only 137,000. 


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: devilfischer on August 07, 2015, 07:31:58 PM
Changed offer to 10% discount on Kraken price. Will last another hour or so before I go to sleep -

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1146512.0


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: monsanto on August 07, 2015, 07:33:56 PM
It's only on one exchange and the first day or days of trading is always price discovery.  

It's like how they say if you're negotiating you should make the first offer, so as to anchor the price. It looks like that's what they've tried to do by only allowing themselves to trade first on Kraken.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: ArticMine on August 07, 2015, 08:17:16 PM
This is from the Ethereum blog https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/07/22/launching-the-ether-sale/ (https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/07/22/launching-the-ether-sale/)

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The price of ether is initially set to a discounted price of 2000 ETH per BTC, and will stay this way for 14 days before linearly declining to a final rate of 1337 ETH per BTC. The sale will last 42 days, concluding at 23:59 Zug time September 2.

This places the launch exchange rate between 0.000500 ETH/XBT and 0.000748 ETH/XBT. It remains to be seen if the current 0.01 ETH/XBT exchange rate will hold after some days of bona fide trading.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: s1gs3gv on August 07, 2015, 08:27:22 PM
Jesse Powell ( Kraken CEO ) seems to think .01 BTC is low

http://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3g4bzf/kraken_started_trading_already/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3g4bzf/kraken_started_trading_already/)


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: BigSirko on August 07, 2015, 09:32:18 PM
Jesse Powell ( Kraken CEO ) seems to think .01 BTC is low

http://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3g4bzf/kraken_started_trading_already/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3g4bzf/kraken_started_trading_already/)


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=859614.msg9639265#msg9639265

Jesse Powell thought Bitcoin was going to hit $1,000,000 per BTC in 2014.  Yeah he sure seems like a great source for price prediction..

This is just like all the "cryptocelebrities" (I use the term lightly) who thought PayCoin was worth more than the $10 it was selling for, or worth more than the $20 price guarantee.



Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: DaveyJones on August 07, 2015, 09:42:37 PM
Jesse Powell ( Kraken CEO ) seems to think .01 BTC is low

http://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3g4bzf/kraken_started_trading_already/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3g4bzf/kraken_started_trading_already/)


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=859614.msg9639265#msg9639265

Jesse Powell thought Bitcoin was going to hit $1,000,000 per BTC in 2014.  Yeah he sure seems like a great source for price prediction..

This is just like all the "cryptocelebrities" (I use the term lightly) who thought PayCoin was worth more than the $10 it was selling for, or worth more than the $20 price guarantee.



All funds are safe on Mt.Gox, i saw the papers :D - Roger Vern


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: monsanto on August 07, 2015, 11:12:40 PM
Ethercoin is right now selling for more than actual, real Ether, as listed on coinmarketcap.com. Couldn't be because ethercoin devs were buying their own supply to pump the price, no never ;D


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: sofu on August 07, 2015, 11:31:25 PM
Only degenerated trader are buying now on kraken on this low supply. ETH trading on Kraken looks like Globe or IBITS now

Better wait for tomorrow or longer  8)

http://pokerfuse.com/site_media/media/uploads/news/dumping_orig_full_sidebar.jpg


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: stoat on August 08, 2015, 01:28:16 AM
It's only on one exchange and the first day or days of trading is always price discovery.  Reality is volume is too low to sustain such high prices, especially when many people are sitting on an overnight ROI between 7x-10x and yet volume is only 137,000. 


I'm waiting for the alpha release before I even touch my presale wallet.  Only retards would dump their wallets right now. I invested because I genuinely think the idea is sound. And from what I've seen, they have the ability to pull it off.  It's the Facebook to bitcoins MySpace. $10/ETH by the next week.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: s1gs3gv on August 08, 2015, 01:40:12 AM
Only retards would dump their wallets right now.

Agreed


It's the Facebook to bitcoins MySpace.

Lets not kid ourselves. BTC has a 4 BILLION dollar market cap. ETH has a 168 MILLION market cap. Thats a factor of 23 smaller.
Bitcoin's success is an essential prerequisite to the success of any other crypto, at least for the next decade. By all means hope for an ETH moon shot but not at the expense of BTC.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: stoat on August 08, 2015, 02:06:45 AM

Lets not kid ourselves. BTC has a 4 BILLION dollar market cap. ETH has a 168 MILLION market cap. Thats a factor of 23 smaller.
Bitcoin's success is an essential prerequisite to the success of any other crypto, at least for the next decade. By all means hope for an ETH moon shot but not at the expense of BTC.

4 billion isn't that much in the grand scheme of things.  And Ethereum has a lot of advantages over any other blockchain to date.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: bl234st on August 08, 2015, 02:21:18 AM
Take the advice of idiots on this form, and you are sure to go broke. Do your own research, and you might have enough chips to stay at the table. I paid nothing for my ETH compared to what I just sold them for. I sold off all of my shitcoins and bought ETH last year, even though you EXPERTS were telling everyone what a mistake that was. Thousands of dollars in PROFIT is all that matters. Your opinions are as common as flies on shit. FUCKING LOSERS! Bunch of losers hanging out at the mall whistling at girls is what this place has become. Keep on being macho BTCtalk, you have nothing else. LMAO!


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: Brockspeculator on August 08, 2015, 03:43:05 AM
Will die out like most of these 2.0 coins

I come on the forums and see many threads about this coin. What gives. What makes it so special? I've heard people hype up other coins before. This one is probably no different. Hype. Fud. Controversy. I'm really sick of this pattern in Crypto.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: rokkyroad on August 08, 2015, 04:13:18 AM
Will die out like most of these 2.0 coins

I come on the forums and see many threads about this coin. What gives. What makes it so special? I've heard people hype up other coins before. This one is probably no different. Hype. Fud. Controversy. I'm really sick of this pattern in Crypto.

We had the animal coins, the country coins, the color coins, the stealth coins, and now we have the second generation coins. Its cyclic. Could be back to animal coins next month.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: montaga on August 08, 2015, 04:33:43 AM
Will die out like most of these 2.0 coins

I come on the forums and see many threads about this coin. What gives. What makes it so special? I've heard people hype up other coins before. This one is probably no different. Hype. Fud. Controversy. I'm really sick of this pattern in Crypto.

We had the animal coins, the country coins, the color coins, the stealth coins, and now we have the second generation coins. Its cyclic. Could be back to animal coins next month.
The second gen coins we had already, fell in the water like everything else.
Dont know what this generation of coins is called, maybe "its not a coin....."
Using Ctrl + C for software works good.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: sofu on August 08, 2015, 05:10:01 AM
I guess the big money will be here  :)

https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/ETH7D


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: ridery99 on August 08, 2015, 09:41:09 AM
Take the advice of idiots on this form, and you are sure to go broke. Do your own research, and you might have enough chips to stay at the table. I paid nothing for my ETH compared to what I just sold them for. I sold off all of my shitcoins and bought ETH last year, even though you EXPERTS were telling everyone what a mistake that was. Thousands of dollars in PROFIT is all that matters. Your opinions are as common as flies on shit. FUCKING LOSERS! Bunch of losers hanging out at the mall whistling at girls is what this place has become. Keep on being macho BTCtalk, you have nothing else. LMAO!

Very impressive and emotional  :)


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: Abiky on August 09, 2015, 02:35:33 AM
What just happened? Ethereum's price went down from $3.22 to $0.65 That was a huge price drop. Take a look below:

http://cdn.img42.com/b3b8b92721c17e85b5132348e5da8093.jpeg


They're really cheap now. So the best bet would be to buy some more and hold them until the price goes up. Just my opinion  ;D


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: Denker on August 09, 2015, 08:10:21 AM
@ Abiky

No man.Still way too expensive. In a few days that coin might be out of top ten. Everyone who invests now on the way down is going to lose. Sit back have a coffee and watch the dump.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on August 09, 2015, 08:14:22 AM
@ Abiky

No man.Still way too expensive. In a few days that coin might be out of top ten. Everyone who invests now on the way down is going to lose. Sit back have a coffee and watch the dump.

In a tentative observing situation as well its trading at a 50% discount from Pre-Launch price with good volume on poloniex 1000 BTC trading back and forth so how far it can go remains to be seen.
Sub 0.002 would be ideal though for an upside potential in my opinion or 60% off IPO :)


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: sofu on August 09, 2015, 08:21:35 AM
Any stats available how many IPO buyers already moved their coins?


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: yohanip on August 09, 2015, 09:00:58 AM
@ Abiky

No man.Still way too expensive. In a few days that coin might be out of top ten. Everyone who invests now on the way down is going to lose. Sit back have a coffee and watch the dump.

There is this thing called rolling back blockchain issued by the developer..


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: sofu on August 09, 2015, 09:12:59 AM
~30000ETH will be mined per day. Thats ~90BTC at the current price. 2700BTC per month to hold the price at this level assuming no more IPO buyers cashing out.

Without big news the price will go down for sure but picking up some dumps and daytrade it for some 10-20% profits could work  :)


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: hiddensphinx on August 09, 2015, 10:35:08 AM
Any stats available how many IPO buyers already moved their coins?

Best way I have so far found to keep track is

Poloniex wallet: https://etherchain.org/account/0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88

Kraken wallet: https://etherchain.org/account/0x2910543af39aba0cd09dbb2d50200b3e800a63d2


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: sofu on August 09, 2015, 10:59:10 AM
Any stats available how many IPO buyers already moved their coins?

Best way I have so far found to keep track is

Poloniex wallet: https://etherchain.org/account/0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88

Kraken wallet: https://etherchain.org/account/0x2910543af39aba0cd09dbb2d50200b3e800a63d2

Thanks


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: killacam8888 on August 12, 2015, 06:23:20 AM
ETH INFO: 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j23HnORQXvs
                2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1XOPIqyP7A
                3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwaBM-kQeqc

Price heading to the moon


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: HCLivess on August 12, 2015, 07:35:55 AM
~30000ETH will be mined per day. Thats ~90BTC at the current price. 2700BTC per month to hold the price at this level assuming no more IPO buyers cashing out.

Without big news the price will go down for sure but picking up some dumps and daytrade it for some 10-20% profits could work  :)

This is what I needed to know, thanks


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: nakaone on August 12, 2015, 07:37:01 PM
~30000ETH will be mined per day. Thats ~90BTC at the current price. 2700BTC per month to hold the price at this level assuming no more IPO buyers cashing out.

Without big news the price will go down for sure but picking up some dumps and daytrade it for some 10-20% profits could work  :)

This is what I needed to know, thanks

project is interesting but at current prices not sustainable - contracts are costing around .0008 eth (?) - how many contracts are assumed to run? :D



Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: stoat on August 12, 2015, 07:40:05 PM
~30000ETH will be mined per day. Thats ~90BTC at the current price. 2700BTC per month to hold the price at this level assuming no more IPO buyers cashing out.

Without big news the price will go down for sure but picking up some dumps and daytrade it for some 10-20% profits could work  :)

This is what I needed to know, thanks

project is interesting but at current prices not sustainable - contracts are costing around .0008 eth (?) - how many contracts are assumed to run? :D



Contracts do not run on eth. They run on gas.  The price of gas in eth is decide with oracle by miners, so fluctuation in price of eth does not affect DAPP functions.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: nakaone on August 12, 2015, 07:45:42 PM
~30000ETH will be mined per day. Thats ~90BTC at the current price. 2700BTC per month to hold the price at this level assuming no more IPO buyers cashing out.

Without big news the price will go down for sure but picking up some dumps and daytrade it for some 10-20% profits could work  :)

This is what I needed to know, thanks

project is interesting but at current prices not sustainable - contracts are costing around .0008 eth (?) - how many contracts are assumed to run? :D



Contracts do not run on eth. They run on gas.  The price of gas in eth is decide with oracle by miners, so fluctuation in price of eth does not affect DAPP functions.

ok and how much ether is needed for a contract running let's say a week? or is a contract cost covered once it is executed?


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: stoat on August 12, 2015, 07:50:08 PM

ok and how much ether is needed for a contract running let's say a week? or is a contract cost covered once it is executed?
On execution.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: nakaone on August 12, 2015, 07:56:15 PM

ok and how much ether is needed for a contract running let's say a week? or is a contract cost covered once it is executed?
On execution.

so current daily inflation is enough for ~0.005 / 30000 = 6 Million New Contracts Per Day?

there are other unique features of ether aren't there?


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: stoat on August 12, 2015, 08:01:11 PM

ok and how much ether is needed for a contract running let's say a week? or is a contract cost covered once it is executed?
On execution.

so current daily inflation is enough for ~0.005 / 30000 = 6 Million New Contracts Per Day?

there are other unique features of ether aren't there?

The gas cost will go down as ether value rises.  There will never be a situation where gas is too expensive to run DAPPS. Ether is to encourage frugality in using the network resources. 


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: shanem on August 13, 2015, 01:58:15 PM
Everyone on this thread is wrong.
I can't believe that ETH is over 0.005 now.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: Robin,Hood on August 13, 2015, 02:03:46 PM
Everyone on this thread is wrong.
I can't believe that ETH is over 0.005 now.
It is the most manipulated crypto in history because a massive junk of ICO was one single group. pump and dump on steroids.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: bram_vnl on August 13, 2015, 02:14:14 PM
eth is just a joke 60 m coins for this price lol


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: OBAViJEST on August 13, 2015, 02:50:36 PM
@ .0059 right now...will it hit 600k and rise more?? Shit is getting crazy @ Polo


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: ً؛قو on August 13, 2015, 03:46:51 PM
The most impressive piece of fakery i have seen in a long while. Price going parabolic and volume falling or stay same.
No real users only ICO's group bot.
https://i.imgur.com/n77Jtfe.png
Please be more professional next time if do again.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: Hunyadi on August 13, 2015, 05:12:08 PM
ETH pump is over  ;D Perhaps, one more push to double top.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: d0om on August 13, 2015, 05:40:46 PM
This is going to be a really ugly dump.


Title: Re: ETH Speculation
Post by: NattyLiteCoin on August 13, 2015, 08:40:05 PM
Looking to deal ETHR for 1600 LTC. PM if interested.