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Title: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ upped the Prize to 0.15 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 09, 2015, 08:39:27 PM

https://www.moneypot.com/apps/69-jackpotracer

Prize 0.1 0.15 BTC for the 1st who hits the Jackpot  

a minimum wager of 2000 Satoshi is a must to be eligible for the Prize

each user who wants to participate needs to post his moneypot
    username here

If you don't have a Moneypot account please go to www.moneypot.com and register. You only need username and password.

auto bot play will be allowed

for all the new users who are not familiar with our game please take a look at our short movie clips
Game Tutorial
https://jackpotracer.com/media/JackpotRacerGame.mp4 (https://jackpotracer.com/media/JackpotRacerGame.mp4)
Jackpot Tutorial
https://jackpotracer.com/media/JackpotRacerJackpot.mp4 (https://jackpotracer.com/media/JackpotRacerJackpot.mp4)
Bot Tutorial
https://jackpotracer.com/media/JackpotRacerAutoBot.mp4 (https://jackpotracer.com/media/JackpotRacerAutoBot.mp4)



P.S. We reserve the right to close this promotion at any time


Title: Re: ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: katerniko1 on August 09, 2015, 08:43:20 PM
mate i dont know is it mistake or is it 0.01 but
u wrote :
Quote
Prize 0.01 BTC for the 1st who hits the Jackpot
so is it 0.1 or 0.01 ?
regards.
-Katerniko1


Title: Re: ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: ANdr0id on August 09, 2015, 08:43:36 PM
A promotion for 0.1btc seems to be alot. I will try my luck at this.
Membership is free and only need to make initial deposit. I am in thanks for this offer.


Title: Re: ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 09, 2015, 08:44:56 PM
mate i dont know is it mistake or is it 0.01 but
u wrote :
Quote
Prize 0.01 BTC for the 1st who hits the Jackpot
so is it 0.1 or 0.01 ?
regards.
-Katerniko1

thanks mate for the hint



Title: Re: ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: Bitinity on August 09, 2015, 08:55:17 PM
Could you please reduce the minimum wager? As I know you had done this before even without minimum wager. And the winner was krunox.



Title: Re: ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 09, 2015, 09:20:09 PM
Could you please reduce the minimum wager? As I know you had done this before even without minimum wager. And the winner was krunox.



sorry but this was not the same promo and krunox wagered always 2 satoshi. it was a bot promo for bot players only.

please take a good look at the promo text. we started with 50k Sat upped it to 100k Sat
and to 200k  Sat then to 500k Sat because there were no takers and then our tired totolino
made a mistake and upped it instead to 0.01 to 0.1 and we always want to be fair
to our users didnt change it and krunox was the lucky winner.

now please do the maths and you will see that the minimum wager we are asking is 2000 Satoshi is a generous wager to win a Prize of 0.1 and the jackpot that would be in case of a 2k Satoshi bet 0.0559872

and as we have also higher wagers then 2k Sat those players would be eligible for the
prize if the post their username in thread

imagine a user will go for the 0.02 promo and would be automatically also in the
Jackpot promo (but needs to post his username in thread) for the same 2k Sat bet

but thanks for the posting because feedback is always welcome



Title: Re: ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: skierchewing on August 09, 2015, 11:05:25 PM
i'll join ^^


Title: Re: ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: nickaizoku on August 10, 2015, 05:25:22 AM
i join this,.
username : Cybernick


Title: Re: ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: horace0812 on August 10, 2015, 06:44:51 AM
my username: horace0812


Title: Re: ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 10, 2015, 09:30:08 AM

thanks guys for joining another one of our generous promos

we dont know how long we will have those generous promos
so just do the maths and take advantage of them.


Title: Re: ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 10, 2015, 11:35:48 AM
my username: horace0812

see you at the table


Title: Re: ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: ianbelada2 on August 10, 2015, 11:37:33 AM
how to hit the jackpot?


Title: Re: ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 10, 2015, 12:03:31 PM
how to hit the jackpot?

please visit our site and we will be glad to explain it to you.

thank you for the question


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 10, 2015, 12:47:58 PM


guys we were asked by user bitcoingg to post his username so he will be in the contest
and eligible for the Jackpot



Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: siwakotisaurav on August 10, 2015, 12:51:29 PM
My username:siwakotisaurav


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: panjul07 on August 10, 2015, 12:53:42 PM
guys we were asked by user bitcoingg to post his username so he will be in the contest
and eligible for the Jackpot

Let me try my luck for this jackpot hunter username : panjul07


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 10, 2015, 01:00:40 PM
guys we were asked by user bitcoingg to post his username so he will be in the contest
and eligible for the Jackpot

Let me try my luck for this jackpot hunter username : panjul07

just for info to explain why we posted the username for bitcoingg

bitcoingg asked us to post his username because he has right now no multi screen option
and was wagering on 5 racers about 16k sat on each

panjul thank you for participating


Title: Re: ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 10, 2015, 02:08:31 PM
my username: horace0812

thanks for participating

good luck


Title: Re: ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 10, 2015, 02:55:21 PM
i join this,.
username : Cybernick

thanks for joining and welcome to the action


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: jambola2 on August 10, 2015, 03:11:16 PM
This promotion makes the site temporarily EV+ !
Assuming you bet 0.00002 BTC (2000 satoshis) every bet:

Expected value from winning the normal game: 0.00002 * 5.88/6 = 0.0000196
Expected value from winning the jackpot: 0.00002 * 2799.36/279936 = 0.0000002
Expected value from jackpot bonus: 0.1/279936 = 0.000000357

Total EV = 0.000020157
Works out to be 100.785% EV.

Not much, but better than EV-

(EDIT: This assumes you bet only one one racer. Betting on two or more simultaneously makes it EV- again)



Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 10, 2015, 03:45:17 PM
This promotion makes the site temporarily EV+ !
Assuming you bet 0.00002 BTC (2000 satoshis) every bet:

Expected value from winning the normal game: 0.00002 * 5.88/6 = 0.0000196
Expected value from winning the jackpot: 0.00002 * 2799.36/279936 = 0.0000002
Expected value from jackpot bonus: 0.1/279936 = 0.000000357

Total EV = 0.000020157
Works out to be 100.785% EV.

Not much, but better than EV-

(EDIT: This assumes you bet only one one racer. Betting on two or more simultaneously makes it EV- again)



thank you very much for taking the time to make all the maths to tell our players if it is +EV or -EV
very much appreciated.

but I would like to ask you to present those numbers in ELI5 because we have many users who will not understand your maths this way that you presented it.

for example you wrote >>>Expected value from winning the jackpot: 0.00002 * 2799.36/279936 = 0.0000002<<<
could you please do this explanation in ELI5 so we all can understand this formula and what the result of 0.0000002 means. I know that it means 20 satoshi but what is it for?? I am confused
here and where do you get the number 2799.36 from?

thanks again








Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: PvP on August 10, 2015, 04:12:09 PM
if the Jackpot is not yet hit I am in  ::)


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 10, 2015, 06:31:54 PM
if the Jackpot is not yet hit I am in  ::)

hey

not yet hit :(


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: jambola2 on August 10, 2015, 10:53:16 PM
thank you very much for taking the time to make all the maths to tell our players if it is +EV or -EV
very much appreciated.

but I would like to ask you to present those numbers in ELI5 because we have many users who will not understand your maths this way that you presented it.

for example you wrote >>>Expected value from winning the jackpot: 0.00002 * 2799.36/279936 = 0.0000002<<<
could you please do this explanation in ELI5 so we all can understand this formula and what the result of 0.0000002 means. I know that it means 20 satoshi but what is it for?? I am confused
here and where do you get the number 2799.36 from?

thanks again


Alright, let me rephrase it


How do we find expected value?
(Value of outcome/Total number of outcomes)
This can also be written as (Multiplier * Amount bet/Total number of outcomes)
Since the only outcome which returns any Bitcoin is winning with your racer, we only consider that.

5.88 multiplier (from site) * 2000 satoshis/6 total racers that can win
Hence:
Expected value from winning the normal game: 0.00002 * 5.88/6 = 0.0000196

How do we find the expected value of the jackpot?
(Multiplier of jackpot * Bet amount/Total number of outcomes)
Now, we know that the jackpot odds are 1/279936
Hence:
Multiplier * Bet amount/279936
I used some test funds provided by you to check the jackpot amount. Tried it for 4-5 different bet sizes, and found it to be 2799.36x
That becomes (2799.36x * 2000 satoshis/279936)
Expected value from winning the jackpot: 0.00002 * 2799.36/279936 = 0.0000002

Finally, for the expected value of the jackpot bonus, you can quite easily multiply the bonus prize amount (0.1) with the odds (1/279936)
Expected value from jackpot bonus: 0.1/279936 = 0.000000357



Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 11, 2015, 06:45:23 AM

Alright, let me rephrase it


How do we find expected value?
(Value of outcome/Total number of outcomes)
This can also be written as (Multiplier * Amount bet/Total number of outcomes)
Since the only outcome which returns any Bitcoin is winning with your racer, we only consider that.

5.88 multiplier (from site) * 2000 satoshis/6 total racers that can win
Hence:
Expected value from winning the normal game: 0.00002 * 5.88/6 = 0.0000196

How do we find the expected value of the jackpot?
(Multiplier of jackpot * Bet amount/Total number of outcomes)
Now, we know that the jackpot odds are 1/279936
Hence:
Multiplier * Bet amount/279936
I used some test funds provided by you to check the jackpot amount. Tried it for 4-5 different bet sizes, and found it to be 2799.36x
That becomes (2799.36x * 2000 satoshis/279936)
Expected value from winning the jackpot: 0.00002 * 2799.36/279936 = 0.0000002

Finally, for the expected value of the jackpot bonus, you can quite easily multiply the bonus prize amount (0.1) with the odds (1/279936)
Expected value from jackpot bonus: 0.1/279936 = 0.000000357


Thank you very much again for taking the time to try ELI5 very much appreciated.

you are saying >>>I used some test funds provided by you to check the jackpot amount. Tried it for 4-5 different bet sizes, and found it to be 2799.36x<<<

it will be very important to visit our site again and check the jackpot adjusting to the wagered amount. it just cant be that you wagered different amounts and always had the same jackpot amount. because the maths regarding jackpot can't be correct if the jackpot adjusts to wager amount.
if I understood you right the jackpot was always 2799.36 no matter what amount you wagered?
btw would you please tell us what the number 2799.36 is? I mean is it 0.00279936? or why the dot36? with dot36 I would say it is 2799.36 satoshi but it would be nice if you could explain those numbers.






Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 11, 2015, 10:49:22 AM
hey Jambola2

I understood you are checking for promos and their EV + or - for player. nice hobby :)

we have a promo (right now locked  because of the Jackpot promo) called
" no chance to lose promo" but we had not many takers and I was wondering why?
it would be nice if would look it over just to sure we didn't do any mistake and the promo is -EV for players though I am sure that it is one of the best promos ever. the link is

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1122527.msg11880147#msg11880147 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1122527.msg11880147#msg11880147)

thanks


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: jambola2 on August 11, 2015, 10:56:49 PM
hey Jambola2

I understood you are checking for promos and their EV + or - for player. nice hobby :)

we have a promo (right now locked  because of the Jackpot promo) called
" no chance to lose promo" but we had not many takers and I was wondering why?
it would be nice if would look it over just to sure we didn't do any mistake and the promo is -EV for players though I am sure that it is one of the best promos ever. the link is

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1122527.msg11880147#msg11880147 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1122527.msg11880147#msg11880147)

thanks

The thread is locked.
If this was done earlier, it is likely that the players don't check the thread because it was locked.
And if it is done now, well I guess the promo is over?

Quote
Thank you very much again for taking the time to try ELI5 very much appreciated.

you are saying >>>I used some test funds provided by you to check the jackpot amount. Tried it for 4-5 different bet sizes, and found it to be 2799.36x<<<

it will be very important to visit our site again and check the jackpot adjusting to the wagered amount. it just cant be that you wagered different amounts and always had the same jackpot amount. because the maths regarding jackpot can't be correct if the jackpot adjusts to wager amount.
if I understood you right the jackpot was always 2799.36 no matter what amount you wagered?
btw would you please tell us what the number 2799.36 is? I mean is it 0.00279936? or why the dot36? with dot36 I would say it is 2799.36 satoshi but it would be nice if you could explain those numbers.

Sorry, didn't explain optimally.
By x I mean times.
2799.36x means 2799.36 * Bet amount

Quote
That becomes (2799.36x * 2000 satoshis/279936)

I made a mistake there, the x doesn't mean anything.

So, if you win the jackpot, you get 2799.36 times whatever you had bet.


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 12, 2015, 05:23:32 AM
hey Jambola2

I understood you are checking for promos and their EV + or - for player. nice hobby :)

we have a promo (right now locked  because of the Jackpot promo) called
" no chance to lose promo" but we had not many takers and I was wondering why?
it would be nice if would look it over just to sure we didn't do any mistake and the promo is -EV for players though I am sure that it is one of the best promos ever. the link is

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1122527.msg11880147#msg11880147 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1122527.msg11880147#msg11880147)

thanks

The thread is locked.
If this was done earlier, it is likely that the players don't check the thread because it was locked.
And if it is done now, well I guess the promo is over?

sorry again but I asked you for your opinion regarding the promo offer if it is + or - EV for the player? I wrote there why it is closed right now and it will be opened again. it was long enough open that I know that not many user took this promo.


Quote


Sorry, didn't explain optimally.
By x I mean times.
2799.36x means 2799.36 * Bet amount

That becomes (2799.36x * 2000 satoshis/279936)

I made a mistake there, the x doesn't mean anything.

So, if you win the jackpot, you get 2799.36 times whatever you had bet.


so can we agree that the JP amount is adjusting with your wager amount
and to give an easy example that


if a user bets  1 Satoshi that the Jackpot amount is 2799 Satoshi

and if a user bets 40k Satoshi the the Jackpot amount is 1.119744

thank you very much for the help



Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ 0.1 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 12, 2015, 01:21:15 PM


join in and try your luck to hit the Jackpot


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ upped the Prize to 0.15 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 12, 2015, 06:29:38 PM
we upped the Prize to 0.1 0.15 BTC for the 1st who hits the Jackpot


come in and join the hunt

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1148637.msg12098045#msg12098045 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1148637.msg12098045#msg12098045)


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ upped the Prize to 0.15 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: nickaizoku on August 13, 2015, 02:12:14 AM
we upped the Prize to 0.1 0.15 BTC for the 1st who hits the Jackpot


come in and join the hunt

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1148637.msg12098045#msg12098045 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1148637.msg12098045#msg12098045)

would love to try again, running out of btc now :(
good luck to all player out there, 0.15 nice price! and if strike jackpot with min wager 2000, have nice payout too


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ upped the Prize to 0.15 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 13, 2015, 05:08:31 AM
we upped the Prize to 0.1 0.15 BTC for the 1st who hits the Jackpot


come in and join the hunt

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1148637.msg12098045#msg12098045 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1148637.msg12098045#msg12098045)

would love to try again, running out of btc now :(
good luck to all player out there, 0.15 nice price! and if strike jackpot with min wager 2000, have nice payout too

thank you for the kind words and really sorry that you ran out of BTC because
we hoped that you will show up and try your luck to hit the Jackpot.
you are still in our Jackpot winners hall of fame holding the highest Jackpot win :)

good luck


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ upped the Prize to 0.15 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 13, 2015, 09:34:28 AM

guys don't miss the next Jackpot  :)

nice action but no hit of contest Jackpot with upped prize of 0.15 BTC if hit


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ upped the Prize to 0.15 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 13, 2015, 11:35:03 AM

And the Winner is...............huggy :)

Congratulations to huggy who hit the Jackpot (0.0560448) and the Prize
of 0.15 BTC



latest Jackpot winner now in our Hall of Fame



Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ upped the Prize to 0.15 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: Alvin Fahriza on August 13, 2015, 11:37:36 AM

And the Winner is...............huggy :)

Congratulations to huggy who hit the Jackpot (0.0560448) and the Prize
of 0.15 BTC



latest Jackpot winner now in our Hall of Fame

congratulations huggy you always hunting for jackpot :P
cheers


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ upped the Prize to 0.15 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: PvP on August 13, 2015, 12:10:41 PM
@Alvin Fahriza and @Jackpotracer

thank you very much and I really can say it was really tough and I am very happy now
that I hit the Jackpot and won some Satoshi  ;D

waiting for the next promo lol


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ upped the Prize to 0.15 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 13, 2015, 02:11:47 PM
@Alvin Fahriza and @Jackpotracer

thank you very much and I really can say it was really tough and I am very happy now
that I hit the Jackpot and won some Satoshi  ;D

waiting for the next promo lol

next promo will be out later today :)


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ upped the Prize to 0.15 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: PvP on August 13, 2015, 02:54:31 PM
@Alvin Fahriza and @Jackpotracer

thank you very much and I really can say it was really tough and I am very happy now
that I hit the Jackpot and won some Satoshi  ;D

waiting for the next promo lol

next promo will be out later today :)

sounds good but could it be that you didn't send the prize? I don't see it on my MP
account


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ upped the Prize to 0.15 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 13, 2015, 03:55:05 PM
@Alvin Fahriza and @Jackpotracer

thank you very much and I really can say it was really tough and I am very happy now
that I hit the Jackpot and won some Satoshi  ;D

waiting for the next promo lol

next promo will be out later today :)

sounds good but could it be that you didn't send the prize? I don't see it on my MP
account

please let me check it


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ upped the Prize to 0.15 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 13, 2015, 04:04:30 PM
@Alvin Fahriza and @Jackpotracer

thank you very much and I really can say it was really tough and I am very happy now
that I hit the Jackpot and won some Satoshi  ;D

waiting for the next promo lol

next promo will be out later today :)

sounds good but could it be that you didn't send the prize? I don't see it on my MP
account

it was not send to your MP account, it was send to your Jackpotracer app account

please check it and confirm if you received it

thanks


Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ upped the Prize to 0.15 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: PvP on August 13, 2015, 04:23:21 PM
@Alvin Fahriza and @Jackpotracer

thank you very much and I really can say it was really tough and I am very happy now
that I hit the Jackpot and won some Satoshi  ;D

waiting for the next promo lol

next promo will be out later today :)

sounds good but could it be that you didn't send the prize? I don't see it on my MP
account

please let me check it

yes Sir confirmed that I received the prize  ;D



Title: Re: [Jackpotracer.com] ★★ upped the Prize to 0.15 BTC ★★ Prize for Jackpot hit ★★
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 13, 2015, 04:39:38 PM
@Alvin Fahriza and @Jackpotracer

thank you very much and I really can say it was really tough and I am very happy now
that I hit the Jackpot and won some Satoshi  ;D

waiting for the next promo lol

next promo will be out later today :)

sounds good but could it be that you didn't send the prize? I don't see it on my MP
account

please let me check it

yes Sir confirmed that I received the prize  ;D



thanks for confirming :)

I will lock the thread now