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Title: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: RawDog on August 12, 2015, 04:51:45 PM Is the fat boy still in jail - or did he bail out?
Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: RodeoX on August 12, 2015, 05:00:18 PM Apparently Japan does not do bail. He's in a cage.
Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: bitcoin1900 on August 12, 2015, 05:02:02 PM Apparently Japan does not do bail. He's in a cage. Agreed 99% of cases in japan = jail time They only bail if you give them millions i read. Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: thejaytiesto on August 12, 2015, 05:03:03 PM I think investigations are still ongoing and he isn't fully on jail now. Apparently he will be on jail for at least 7 years, which is nothing compared to what would he have gotten in US. He will leave in 7 years and by then the Bitcoins he has stored (which im sure he has undetected BTC stored somewhere) will be worth millions.
Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: RawDog on August 12, 2015, 05:11:21 PM They only bail if you give them millions i read. Do they take bitcoin?Apparently he will be on jail for at least 7 years, which is nothing compared to what would he have gotten in US. He will leave in 7 years The US could then extradite him. Put him in a US jail for another 326 years.Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: RocketSingh on August 12, 2015, 05:22:11 PM Apparently he will be on jail for at least 7 years, which is nothing compared to what would he have gotten in US. He will leave in 7 years The US could then extradite him. Put him in a US jail for another 326 years.AFAIK, only gross negligence is proved against him. US wont charge much for this, unless Ross Ulbricht lawyers can prove that he is the real DPR. Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: Snorek on August 12, 2015, 05:23:27 PM Is the fat boy still in jail - or did he bail out? Bail out is popular thing only in Western Societies. In Japan this is almost unknown occurrence if someone bails out. There must be certain set of circumstances to even try.If Karpeles will be judged on Japan soil it would be hard for him. But I think he would appeal to to jury to be judged in France (he has French citizenship) or some other country when law is not that harsh. Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: LiteCoinGuy on August 12, 2015, 05:41:10 PM Is the fat boy still in jail - or did he bail out? http://dailyhashrate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/markkarpjail2.jpg Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: RawDog on August 12, 2015, 07:01:22 PM Is the fat boy still in jail - or did he bail out? http://dailyhashrate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/markkarpjail2.jpg That's a pretty good image. holy shit. Could have made him look a bit more scared. Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: nwfella on October 14, 2015, 12:50:34 AM Is the fat boy still in jail - or did he bail out? http://dailyhashrate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/markkarpjail2.jpg That's a pretty good image. holy shit. Could have made him look a bit more scared. Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: Bitcoininspace on October 14, 2015, 12:54:17 AM Is the fat boy still in jail - or did he bail out? http://dailyhashrate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/markkarpjail2.jpg Nice picture, I doubt he is getting his starbucks any time soon. :) Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: tokeweed on October 14, 2015, 01:28:07 AM Apparently Japan does not do bail. He's in a cage. Lol cage. Does he have his cats with him? https://i.imgur.com/e6jxwOo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/e3ixgJs.jpg Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: maku on October 14, 2015, 01:39:39 AM Apparently Japan does not do bail. He's in a cage. Lol cage. Does he have his cats with him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiw2NULDjKM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiw2NULDjKM) Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: 7788bitcoin on October 14, 2015, 01:43:30 AM I thought Japanese government decided that bitcoins can not be owned by anyone?? Maybe he will be freed in no time... ::)
Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: Velkro on October 14, 2015, 01:48:27 AM Apparently Japan does not do bail. He's in a cage. He well deserved it, defrauded like how much, 500 000 000$? :OBad bad person Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: Gleb Gamow on October 14, 2015, 02:37:15 AM Apparently Japan does not do bail. He's in a cage. Lol cage. Does he have his cats with him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiw2NULDjKM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiw2NULDjKM) I'm sure that Mark Karpeles will be in the apple pie factory, with his eight-hour shift consisting of peeling half an apple and passing it on to the next guy to peel the remaining half, all the while the smell of delicious apple pies will permeate the room, where he'll never taste the fruits of his labor. Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: teddy5145 on October 14, 2015, 03:16:23 AM I think investigations are still ongoing and he isn't fully on jail now. Apparently he will be on jail for at least 7 years, which is nothing compared to what would he have gotten in US. He will leave in 7 years and by then the Bitcoins he has stored (which im sure he has undetected BTC stored somewhere) will be worth millions. 7 years is still better than nothingIm pretty sure 7 years is enough for the prisoners to bully the crap out of him :P But i agree with you, he should stay there longer ::) Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: dothebeats on October 14, 2015, 03:56:53 AM I think investigations are still ongoing and he isn't fully on jail now. Apparently he will be on jail for at least 7 years, which is nothing compared to what would he have gotten in US. He will leave in 7 years and by then the Bitcoins he has stored (which im sure he has undetected BTC stored somewhere) will be worth millions. 7 years is still better than nothingIm pretty sure 7 years is enough for the prisoners to bully the crap out of him :P But i agree with you, he should stay there longer ::) 7 years is just a petty punishment for someone who let $500m dollars be lost in the void. If he was jailed in the US, I doubt that he‘ll be free in 20 years. There is serious money involved here. Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: Hazir on October 14, 2015, 04:05:08 AM After searching web for couple minutes I can't see any recent news regarding Karpeles trial. The last info is about his arrestment and charges:
http://seenewsupdates.ru/2015/10/12/mtgox-bitcoin-chief-mark-karpeles-charged-in-japan/ (http://seenewsupdates.ru/2015/10/12/mtgox-bitcoin-chief-mark-karpeles-charged-in-japan/) There is nothing new. Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: teddy5145 on October 14, 2015, 05:17:37 AM I think investigations are still ongoing and he isn't fully on jail now. Apparently he will be on jail for at least 7 years, which is nothing compared to what would he have gotten in US. He will leave in 7 years and by then the Bitcoins he has stored (which im sure he has undetected BTC stored somewhere) will be worth millions. 7 years is still better than nothingIm pretty sure 7 years is enough for the prisoners to bully the crap out of him :P But i agree with you, he should stay there longer ::) 7 years is just a petty punishment for someone who let $500m dollars be lost in the void. If he was jailed in the US, I doubt that he‘ll be free in 20 years. There is serious money involved here. Are there anything the bitcoin community could do to make him stay in jail longer ? Maybe make an online petition for him to stay longer in jail or something like that ??? Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: dothebeats on October 14, 2015, 05:26:00 AM I think investigations are still ongoing and he isn't fully on jail now. Apparently he will be on jail for at least 7 years, which is nothing compared to what would he have gotten in US. He will leave in 7 years and by then the Bitcoins he has stored (which im sure he has undetected BTC stored somewhere) will be worth millions. 7 years is still better than nothingIm pretty sure 7 years is enough for the prisoners to bully the crap out of him :P But i agree with you, he should stay there longer ::) 7 years is just a petty punishment for someone who let $500m dollars be lost in the void. If he was jailed in the US, I doubt that he‘ll be free in 20 years. There is serious money involved here. Are there anything the bitcoin community could do to make him stay in jail longer ? Maybe make an online petition for him to stay longer in jail or something like that ??? Make a petition for him to be trialled in the US? Considering that most victims were there. But idk, Mt. Gox was Japan-based so he should chill there first and taste hell in US after 7 years. ::) Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: tokeweed on October 14, 2015, 05:35:51 AM Apparently Japan does not do bail. He's in a cage. Lol cage. Does he have his cats with him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiw2NULDjKM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiw2NULDjKM) I'm sure that Mark Karpeles will be in the apple pie factory, with his eight-hour shift consisting of peeling half an apple and passing it on to the next guy to peel the remaining half, all the while the smell of delicious apple pies will permeate the room, where he'll never taste the fruits of his labor. Hopefully we get to see a video of Karpeles marching with a guard counting ichi ni ichi ni with a megaphone on his face. Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: Kakmakr on October 14, 2015, 05:39:26 AM I think investigations are still ongoing and he isn't fully on jail now. Apparently he will be on jail for at least 7 years, which is nothing compared to what would he have gotten in US. He will leave in 7 years and by then the Bitcoins he has stored (which im sure he has undetected BTC stored somewhere) will be worth millions. 7 years is still better than nothingIm pretty sure 7 years is enough for the prisoners to bully the crap out of him :P But i agree with you, he should stay there longer ::) 7 years is just a petty punishment for someone who let $500m dollars be lost in the void. If he was jailed in the US, I doubt that he‘ll be free in 20 years. There is serious money involved here. Are there anything the bitcoin community could do to make him stay in jail longer ? Maybe make an online petition for him to stay longer in jail or something like that ??? Make a petition for him to be trialled in the US? Considering that most victims were there. But idk, Mt. Gox was Japan-based so he should chill there first and taste hell in US after 7 years. ::) Only if you are the one bending and touching your toes in the shower. ;) It is such a high profile case and we hear nothing from the press on that side. ??? They are quick to jump on news, when the puppet masters wants them to discredit and shill Bitcoin. I guess it is old news for the so-called CEO of Bitcoin to be in jail. Let's make some phone calls or send some mail and see what pop out. Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: Gleb Gamow on October 14, 2015, 05:49:50 AM Apparently Japan does not do bail. He's in a cage. Lol cage. Does he have his cats with him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiw2NULDjKM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiw2NULDjKM) I'm sure that Mark Karpeles will be in the apple pie factory, with his eight-hour shift consisting of peeling half an apple and passing it on to the next guy to peel the remaining half, all the while the smell of delicious apple pies will permeate the room, where he'll never taste the fruits of his labor. Hopefully we get to see a video of Karpeles marching with a guard counting ichi ni ichi ni with a megaphone on his face. Knowing Mark, he'll try to convince the guards to only count in zeros and ones, whereupon he'll promptly be placed in PHP confinement. Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: n2004al on October 14, 2015, 07:16:23 AM Is the fat boy still in jail - or did he bail out? I think you can have news about this in the last row of this presentation in Wikipedia (named "Arrest and prosecution") : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Karpel%C3%A8s (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Karpel%C3%A8s) Even more here: http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/1857199/french-mtgox-ceo-japan-charged-embezzlement-amid-bitcoin-fraud (http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/1857199/french-mtgox-ceo-japan-charged-embezzlement-amid-bitcoin-fraud) Maybe are the last. At least are the last (official) I have found. Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on October 14, 2015, 08:16:50 AM He is an awful man, a real low life & he deserves jail time imo. 7 yests is a decent stretch though to be fair. People are moaning about the length of his sentence but I think 7 years is a pretty long time if you think about it.
I'm not sticking up for him, he's a real piece of shit but 7 years is pretty long, did people expect longer? He didn't kill anybody or rape someone, I think 7 years is a good, long stretch. Hopefully he doesn't get out early on good behaviour, I'm not sure what the rules are in Japan for that? Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: teddy5145 on October 14, 2015, 08:25:40 AM I think investigations are still ongoing and he isn't fully on jail now. Apparently he will be on jail for at least 7 years, which is nothing compared to what would he have gotten in US. He will leave in 7 years and by then the Bitcoins he has stored (which im sure he has undetected BTC stored somewhere) will be worth millions. 7 years is still better than nothingIm pretty sure 7 years is enough for the prisoners to bully the crap out of him :P But i agree with you, he should stay there longer ::) 7 years is just a petty punishment for someone who let $500m dollars be lost in the void. If he was jailed in the US, I doubt that he‘ll be free in 20 years. There is serious money involved here. Are there anything the bitcoin community could do to make him stay in jail longer ? Maybe make an online petition for him to stay longer in jail or something like that ??? Make a petition for him to be trialled in the US? Considering that most victims were there. But idk, Mt. Gox was Japan-based so he should chill there first and taste hell in US after 7 years. ::) There's service where we pay $5 and they will ship dog's poop to the receiver ;D And no matter how chill the place is, jail is still a jail and it's a bad place Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: WhatTheGox on October 14, 2015, 08:44:33 AM Is the fat boy still in jail - or did he bail out? Prison for rich bitcoiners is not the same as prison for us normal guys, see this video for more details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZVCrYYFxmk Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: Kprawn on October 14, 2015, 09:15:11 AM I'd like to thank Mark for crashing the bitcoin price so that us latecomers could get in at decent prices. Plus he taught us that we should only trust distributed exchanges. The next 7 years will fly by in the blink of an eye, just pretend you are at college. You are still young. You still have a full fun life ahead of you filled with endless sunny sandy bikini clad beaches, healthy tropical food, and the tastiest feminines you can't find on vporn. Thank you for enlightening the world, my Budda-like friend. Because, the fact is, that without this particular expensive lesson that you taught us, we might not understand the true importance of only supporting free and secure public decentralized crypto exchanges over privately owned centralized trading ledgers. The Bitcoin community salutes you sir. http://cryptocoinupdates.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/markkarpeles.png Spoken as a true Anarchist ::) Yes it's true, he opened our eyes to the dangers of privately owned exchanges, but he also managed to dump anonymity or the little we had, down the drain of over regulation. We would have been well on our way to global mainstream adoption, if it was not for this grasshole. I wonder how the people who acctually lost loads of money would feel about this statement. Let's be sensitive to the loss of others, you might be next. ::) {You did say, you are a latecomer, so I assume you lost nothing in the MtGox fiasko} Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: AGD on October 14, 2015, 02:57:37 PM Apparently Japan does not do bail. He's in a cage. Lol cage. Does he have his cats with him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiw2NULDjKM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiw2NULDjKM) I'm sure that Mark Karpeles will be in the apple pie factory, with his eight-hour shift consisting of peeling half an apple and passing it on to the next guy to peel the remaining half, all the while the smell of delicious apple pies will permeate the room, where he'll never taste the fruits of his labor. Hopefully we get to see a video of Karpeles marching with a guard counting ichi ni ichi ni with a megaphone on his face. Knowing Mark, he'll try to convince the guards to only count in zeros and ones, whereupon he'll promptly be placed in PHP confinement. GOLD!!! Thx guys! Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: nutildah on October 14, 2015, 09:11:58 PM As of Sept. 11th he is back in jail, maybe for up to 2 more weeks.
I heard it from a primary (err... secondary) source - a friend of a global systems security analyst - that Karpeles was doomed as early as way back in July. I just didn't believe him at the time since there was no chatter about it on this forum. But then it turned out he was right. Apparently Japan's case against Karpeles is air-tight and he will indeed get the punishment a lot of people think he deserves. Plus I heard Japanese prisons absolutely suck. No need to extradite him to the U.S., as Japan would not do that anyway. Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: Mickeyb on October 14, 2015, 09:30:57 PM I think investigations are still ongoing and he isn't fully on jail now. Apparently he will be on jail for at least 7 years, which is nothing compared to what would he have gotten in US. He will leave in 7 years and by then the Bitcoins he has stored (which im sure he has undetected BTC stored somewhere) will be worth millions. 7 years is still better than nothingIm pretty sure 7 years is enough for the prisoners to bully the crap out of him :P But i agree with you, he should stay there longer ::) 7 years is just a petty punishment for someone who let $500m dollars be lost in the void. If he was jailed in the US, I doubt that he‘ll be free in 20 years. There is serious money involved here. Are there anything the bitcoin community could do to make him stay in jail longer ? Maybe make an online petition for him to stay longer in jail or something like that ??? Make a petition for him to be trialled in the US? Considering that most victims were there. But idk, Mt. Gox was Japan-based so he should chill there first and taste hell in US after 7 years. ::) Don't think that American lawsuit will be dropped so easily and forgotten neithet. As you said, majority of the people that lost their money are from the US and they will not let this slide so easy. I don't think that he has a nice future whatsoever since he's pretty much on the radar of two countries and I think that both of these countries will make him pay! Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: knowhow on October 14, 2015, 10:58:18 PM US laws are the nightmare and since most costumers belongs there sure they will act and try to punish those man by law of USA,soo i guess he his at holidays and will see the prison once he shows us at US.
Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: cellard on October 14, 2015, 11:10:34 PM I think the Japanese will not fuck around and will keep him in jail, he has made a lot of people lose tons of money, sometimes near to a lifetime of savings, I think he deserves several years in prison to think about it. I don't think we have to hope for USA to jump in, the Japanese should deal with it correctly, from what i've heard they don't play around.
Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: madmadmax on October 14, 2015, 11:16:04 PM Is the fat boy still in jail - or did he bail out? http://dailyhashrate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/markkarpjail2.jpg Nice picture, I doubt he is getting his starbucks any time soon. :) Someone add a milkshake. On a side note, the guy use to rent a 15k apartment, really think he will be housed in the general population with his lawyers? Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: Guido on October 14, 2015, 11:31:41 PM if he's found guilty, after served his time and kicked out country back to france
he will have to serve another sentence in france, according to this Quote According to a joint report by Cyrus Farivar of Ars Technica and Pierre Alonso of Le Monde, Karpelès was found guilty of fraud when he was tried in absentia in France in 2010. He also admitted to having "pirated" a server to French authorities. He was sentenced to a year in jail but has not yet served his sentence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Karpel%C3%A8s also the U.S will no doubt want to extradite him due to Americans using the platform and losing shitloads of cash his pudgy white ass could be seeing some action on different continents lol Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: bb2ebb on October 15, 2015, 12:14:05 AM so Mark Karpeles which claiming he holds no bitcoins anymore it is a lie?
Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: SerenaL on October 15, 2015, 01:13:31 AM Is the fat boy still in jail - or did he bail out? Prison for rich bitcoiners is not the same as prison for us normal guys, see this video for more details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZVCrYYFxmk Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: AGD on October 15, 2015, 05:09:38 AM Someone complained, that Mark has dropped the price. In fact he was the one driving the price up to 1200$ with his bot...
As a sidenote, I find it interesting that a lot of medias (+ people here) are talking about the 1200$ price as a reference for the value of Bitcoin, as if the current price was too low and everybody should only wait until the price goes up to its "real" value. 8) edit: Read here about Fuchu: http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-159095.html Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: NorrisK on October 15, 2015, 06:33:12 AM http://cryptocoinupdates.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/markkarpeles.png You did say, you are a latecomer, so I assume you lost nothing in the MtGox fiasko true, but I did start buying into BTC at $1000 which puts me worse off than anybody who got goxxed for 100% of their unrealized profits. Which brings up another bit of sage investment wisdom that Mark drove home to the crypto community: Don't count your chickens before they hatch That all depends on the amount of money you put in and the amount of bitcoin the others had stored at mtgox. How can you be worse of than someone with 100 btc locked in mtgox? Doesn't matter if they only paid 1 dollar per bitcoin. Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: Amph on October 15, 2015, 08:13:41 AM so Mark Karpeles which claiming he holds no bitcoins anymore it is a lie? well he is in jail, i'm sure that in remote case he hide some coins in a paper wallet, somewhere in the world, he can't use those anyway i forgot if he was sentenced for life prison or just a few years Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: n2004al on October 15, 2015, 02:32:42 PM so Mark Karpeles which claiming he holds no bitcoins anymore it is a lie? well he is in jail, i'm sure that in remote case he hide some coins in a paper wallet, somewhere in the world, he can use those anyway i forgot if he was sentenced for life prison or just a few years Maybe even few (much few). According to Wikipedia the first time was arrested this year and then released. Then arrested again. So must be at maximum months. According to the above source: "Karpelès was arrested on 1 August 2015 by Japanese police on suspicion of having accessed the exchange's computer system to falsify data on its outstanding balance, he was later released then re-arrested and allegedly charged with embezzlement." See here for more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Karpel%C3%A8s (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Karpel%C3%A8s) Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: bb2ebb on October 16, 2015, 10:32:19 AM so Mark Karpeles which claiming he holds no bitcoins anymore it is a lie? well he is in jail, i'm sure that in remote case he hide some coins in a paper wallet, somewhere in the world, he can use those anyway i forgot if he was sentenced for life prison or just a few years of course, I'm sure of it. chances are he's hiding something sort of private key of bitcoin wallet, which he has access and sell anytime when he got out of prison, Title: Re: Is Mark Karpeles in jail now? Post by: Guido on October 16, 2015, 10:46:50 AM so Mark Karpeles which claiming he holds no bitcoins anymore it is a lie? well he is in jail, i'm sure that in remote case he hide some coins in a paper wallet, somewhere in the world, he can use those anyway i forgot if he was sentenced for life prison or just a few years of course, I'm sure of it. chances are he's hiding something sort of private key of bitcoin wallet, which he has access and sell anytime when he got out of prison, i think there is a chance Karpeles secreted a usb stick in tibane's asshole |
