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Title: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: Zebedee23 on August 14, 2015, 07:59:35 AM
Benjamin Netanyahu is to hold talks in London this September. Under international law he should be arrested for war crimes upon arrival in the U.K for the massacre of over 2000 civilians in 2014

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/105446

Its over 50,000 signatures now, at over 100,000 they have to debate it in parliament !!!!!!!!! :)


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: saddampbuh on August 14, 2015, 09:54:18 AM
done


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: MJK on August 14, 2015, 10:25:46 AM
These petitions are largely meaningless sadly. Think all that happens is they're put forward for possible debate in the House of Commons but even if it gets to that stage (which I doubt it will) they'll just deny it.


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: MUFC on August 14, 2015, 10:35:56 AM
Yup, nothing will happen. Think a similar thing happened for George Bush to be arrested for War crimes too, though I think there are still some certain European countries he's scared of going to because they might arrest him. It seems War Crimes are only War Crimes when the West labels them as dictators or tyrants but obviously white or jewish people can never be either of those (unless you commit mass murder against the jews or said white people then it's a different story).


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: Zebedee23 on August 14, 2015, 02:52:51 PM
I agree they will try and ignore it and do nothing but they still have to respond to it and by there guidelines

" Petitions which reach 100,000 signatures are almost always debated. But we may decide not to put a petition forward for debate if the issue has already been debated recently or there’s a debate scheduled for the near future. If that’s the case, we’ll tell you how you can find out more about parliamentary debates on the issue raised by your petition"

imagine if it had 100,000's of signatures, be hard to ignore then!!!! Its going up quick, 3000 extra signatures since late last night! :)

Spread it around :)


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: Tusk on August 14, 2015, 05:53:22 PM
Have signed


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: popcorn1 on August 14, 2015, 11:04:20 PM
 even if 1 million sign it you will never be able to arrest him for war crimes
most countries leaders have blood on there hands it comes with the job.. ;D
WHY BOTHER
is your life doomed if you answer yes then go a head :D :D
if you have a good life you wont if he hears about your petition you be DEAD :D :D
SHADY HE IS and powerful very very powerful so be careful what you say or do with your petition
you could be next on the hit list ;) :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

 



Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 15, 2015, 05:45:07 AM
Israelis and Americans are immune from war crime prosecutions. So even if they get one million signatures, it is not going to make any difference. Did any one dared to prosecute Harry S. Truman for killing 300,000 in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Did anyone tried to prosecute Hillary Clinton for masterminding the NATO bombings of Serbian orphanages and kindergartens in 1999? Same with Netanyahu as well.


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: coinmaster222 on August 15, 2015, 05:56:51 AM
signed


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: OBAViJEST on August 15, 2015, 06:03:48 AM
Israelis and Americans are immune from war crime prosecutions. So even if they get one million signatures, it is not going to make any difference. Did any one dared to prosecute Harry S. Truman for killing 300,000 in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Did anyone tried to prosecute Hillary Clinton for masterminding the NATO bombings of Serbian orphanages and kindergartens in 1999? Same with Netanyahu as well.

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....is what your typical response would be  :D


(although I do ultimately agree with you here)


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: Zebedee23 on August 24, 2015, 03:43:46 PM
Just seen it on PressTV ! :) over 80,000 now ,keep signing


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: newflesh on August 24, 2015, 05:13:11 PM
Its over 50,000 signatures now, at over 100,000 they have to debate it in parliament !!!!!!!!! :)

It's great that so many people have signed the petition but been as the UK is a safe haven for war criminals, Bibi will probably be welcomed with open arms. In fact the only politician likely to say anything against Netanyahu's visit would be Corbyn at a guess, I can't imagine Dodgy Dave debating anything meaningful...


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: Gronthaing on August 25, 2015, 03:46:41 AM
Its over 50,000 signatures now, at over 100,000 they have to debate it in parliament !!!!!!!!! :)

It's great that so many people have signed the petition but been as the UK is a safe haven for war criminals, Bibi will probably be welcomed with open arms. In fact the only politician likely to say anything against Netanyahu's visit would be Corbyn at a guess, I can't imagine Dodgy Dave debating anything meaningful...

Yes, nothing will happen probably. Even if there are 100k signatures. Don't think that is the main point though. The idea behind the petition is to raise awareness of what happened last year. And it will also help raise awareness of how the Palestinians are treated. Maybe even bring more attention to the boycott movement against Israel too.


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: newflesh on August 25, 2015, 03:43:58 PM
Its over 50,000 signatures now, at over 100,000 they have to debate it in parliament !!!!!!!!! :)

It's great that so many people have signed the petition but been as the UK is a safe haven for war criminals, Bibi will probably be welcomed with open arms. In fact the only politician likely to say anything against Netanyahu's visit would be Corbyn at a guess, I can't imagine Dodgy Dave debating anything meaningful...

Yes, nothing will happen probably. Even if there are 100k signatures. Don't think that is the main point though. The idea behind the petition is to raise awareness of what happened last year. And it will also help raise awareness of how the Palestinians are treated. Maybe even bring more attention to the boycott movement against Israel too.

Agreed, I didnt mean to imply that nothing would happen as a result of the petition. It's similar to the way protest marches raise awareness to important issues that would otherwise be sidelined or ignored.

83,000 signatures now ;)


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: pawel7777 on August 26, 2015, 08:20:27 AM
Israelis and Americans are immune from war crime prosecutions. So even if they get one million signatures, it is not going to make any difference. Did any one dared to prosecute Harry S. Truman for killing 300,000 in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Did anyone tried to prosecute Hillary Clinton for masterminding the NATO bombings of Serbian orphanages and kindergartens in 1999? Same with Netanyahu as well.

They didn't got arrested coz no-one made a petition ;)


Of course Netanyahu won't get arrested, but it's at least a good form to express your opinion on the matter. I've already seen some press coverage on that, also, if 100k is reached:

Quote
At 100,000 signatures, this petition will be considered for debate in Parliament


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: ridery99 on August 26, 2015, 01:58:27 PM
Benjamin Netanyahu is the only reason why middle east is not fully collapsed.


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: Zebedee23 on August 30, 2015, 11:56:09 AM
Please sign if you havent, at 90,000 now, hopefully this will at least get some publicity for the issue and cause some embarrassment.  Of course he wont be arrested, millions marched against going into Iraq and the government ignored it but we are still opening peoples minds to an alternative and moving in the right direction.


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: MUFC on August 30, 2015, 12:23:14 PM
Please sign if you havent, at 90,000 now, hopefully this will at least get some publicity for the issue and cause some embarrassment.  Of course he wont be arrested, millions marched against going into Iraq and the government ignored it but we are still opening peoples minds to an alternative and moving in the right direction.

Why would more signatures matter? Nothing will happen just as with any other petition on that site. If they were going to arrest him for war crimes then they'd have to go after Blair & Bush & Obama & Cameron etc.


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 30, 2015, 01:20:40 PM
Benjamin Netanyahu is the only reason why middle east is not fully collapsed.

What sort of rubbish you are talking about? Netanyahu is the mean reason why ISIS is still strong in Syria and Iraq. When the Syrian army was about to destroy the ISIS in South Syria, Netanyahu had Israeli bomber jets attack the regime locations. This enabled the ISIS to retain this strategically important region. I hope that Netanyahu will burn in hell.


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: Zebedee23 on September 09, 2015, 05:21:58 PM
109,000 now & on International news :)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/08/us-britain-israel-idUSKCN0R821Q20150908


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: tsoPANos on September 09, 2015, 05:42:23 PM
109,000 now & on International news :)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/08/us-britain-israel-idUSKCN0R821Q20150908
Did you realise there is a response from the Government?

Quote from:  UK Government Short Response
Under UK and international law, visiting heads of foreign governments, such as Prime Minister Netanyahu, have immunity from legal process, and cannot be arrested or detained.

Quote from:  UK Government Full Response
The British Government has invited Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, as head of the Israeli Government, to visit the UK in September. Under UK and international law, certain holders of high-ranking office in a State, including Heads of State, Heads of Government and Ministers for Foreign Affairs are entitled to immunity, which includes inviolability and complete immunity from criminal jurisdiction.

We recognise that the conflict in Gaza last year took a terrible toll. As the Prime Minister said, we were all deeply saddened by the violence and the UK has been at the forefront of international reconstruction efforts. However the Prime Minister was clear on the UK’s recognition of Israel’s right to take proportionate action to defend itself, within the boundaries of international humanitarian law. We condemn the terrorist tactics of Hamas who fired rockets on Israel, built extensive tunnels to kidnap and murder, and repeatedly refused to accept ceasefires. Israel, like any state, has the right to ensure its own security, as its citizens also have the right to live without fear of attack.

The UK consistently urged Israel to do everything possible to avoid civilian casualties, to exercise restraint, and to help find ways to bring the situation to an end. The UK continues to urge the parties to give priority to reaching a durable solution for Gaza which addresses the underlying drivers of conflict, and to take the necessary practical steps to ensure Gaza’s reconstruction and economic recovery.

We welcome the fact that Israel is conducting internal investigations into specific incidents during Operation Protective Edge. Where there is evidence of wrongdoing those responsible must be held accountable whatever their position in society. Both parties must also demonstrate robust and credible internal investigations which are in line with international standards. We have also encouraged the Israeli authorities, as we do all countries, to cooperate with the independent Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC) regarding the preliminary examination into the situation in the Occupied Palestinian Territories since 13 June, 2014, whilst noting that Israel is not a State Party to the ICC.

The UK is a close friend of Israel and we enjoy an excellent bilateral relationship, built on decades of cooperation between our two countries across a range of fields. Our priority for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict remains the achievement of a two-state solution, based on 1967 borders. We continue to believe that negotiations will be necessary in order to achieve this, and that both parties need to focus on steps that are conducive to peace. The UK Government will reinforce this message to Mr Netanyahu during his visit.

Source
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/105446


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on September 10, 2015, 01:18:09 AM
109,000 now & on International news :)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/08/us-britain-israel-idUSKCN0R821Q20150908

That is quite the feat, and the government responded with hes immune but it was a good effort.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/105446
Government responded
Under UK and international law, visiting heads of foreign governments, such as Prime Minister Netanyahu, have immunity from legal process, and cannot be arrested or detained.


Title: Re: UK citizens please sign petition to have Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for war crimes
Post by: butdabass on September 10, 2015, 01:39:54 AM
i sign my petition!