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Title: SIX XT Secrets Mike Hearn Doesn't Want You To Know
Post by: iCEBREAKER on August 16, 2015, 06:00:33 AM

Once again, Hearn is misleading the public:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3h5heu/so_what_exactly_are_the_changes_in_bitcoinxt/

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In Core, several committers and usually a few other people eyeball the changes; does XT have that attention yet? I don't know enough on the patched functionality to give a useful opinion, but I strongly believe people should look closely at what's getting in under the radar here.

    a bug fix

If "relay the first observed double spend" were generally accepted as a bug with a clean fix available, it'd be fixed in Core; superficial searching says it got reverted as problematic and contentious but I don't know the whole story, nor do I have an opinion on the change.

    two minor things

One is for Hearn's Lighthouse project, and also got merged, found buggy, and reverted. Without those eyeballs, would the lack of testing have been addressed and the bug in getutxos have been spotted before it was widely rolled out?

The other is adding back the bitnodes seed node that was removed for behaving in fishy ways, and adding a seed run by Mike that (unlike any others) gets to know the connecting node's IP address (which would never be accepted into Core).

Is XT basically going to be every patch Mike Hearn ever had refused by NACKs in Core? Where does that road take you as a user of XT?

Edit: Conspicuous by its absence from the README is that (AFAICT from the commit comment) incoming clearnet connections will kick a Tor peer off. /u/luke-jr pointed this out below. So don't just trust the description of diffs.

UPDATE: NUMBER SIX

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Bitcoin XTs Tor IP blacklist downloading system has significant privacy leaks. (http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010379.html)

they hid a sophisticated program which logs your ip even if you're on proxy or tor, and they add IPs to a blacklist and whitelist. It's not all objective, they can add people at will too. This is much worse than I ever thought, they can control every bitcoin user if they got their fork. It would end bitcoin as we know it. It's a horrible and disgusting abuse of Bitcoin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1156489.0

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByLnBVYGlyDsT25MNExSUDB2NTA/view?usp=sharing


Title: Re: Five XT Secrets Mike Hearn Doesn't Want You To Know
Post by: crypto jerk on August 16, 2015, 03:14:03 PM
Heaven help us, Mike Hearn is a "DICK-tator"

Thank goodness for altcoins.


Title: Re: Five XT Secrets Mike Hearn Doesn't Want You To Know
Post by: RaginglikeaBoss on August 16, 2015, 04:50:43 PM
Heaven help us, Mike Hearn is a "DICK-tator"

Thank goodness for altcoins.

Bitcoin XT is an altcoin, sweetie.


Title: Re: Five XT Secrets Mike Hearn Doesn't Want You To Know
Post by: Jhanzo on August 16, 2015, 06:05:02 PM
I'm putting this in my signature. I advise everyone do the same.


Title: Re: SIX XT Secrets Mike Hearn Doesn't Want You To Know
Post by: iCEBREAKER on August 19, 2015, 09:09:56 AM
UPDATE: NUMBER SIX

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Bitcoin XTs Tor IP blacklist downloading system has significant privacy leaks. (http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010379.html)

they hid a sophisticated program which logs your ip even if you're on proxy or tor, and they add IPs to a blacklist and whitelist. It's not all objective, they can add people at will too. This is much worse than I ever thought, they can control every bitcoin user if they got their fork. It would end bitcoin as we know it. It's a horrible and disgusting abuse of Bitcoin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1156489.0

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByLnBVYGlyDsT25MNExSUDB2NTA/view?usp=sharing


Title: Re: Five XT Secrets Mike Hearn Doesn't Want You To Know
Post by: Zarathustra on August 19, 2015, 09:21:54 AM
Heaven help us, Mike Hearn is a "DICK-tator"

Thank goodness for altcoins.

Bitcoin XT is an altcoin, sweetie.

No, it is one of several clients that are mining the bitcoin blockchain. First bitcoin block mined already.


Title: Re: SIX XT Secrets Mike Hearn Doesn't Want You To Know
Post by: iGotSpots on August 19, 2015, 09:26:15 AM
One of these issues, specifically, needs much more attention

https://twitter.com/PurePoS/status/633928882400436224 (https://twitter.com/PurePoS/status/633928882400436224)


Title: Re: Five XT Secrets Mike Hearn Doesn't Want You To Know
Post by: Vasco on August 19, 2015, 10:55:40 AM
Heaven help us, Mike Hearn is a "DICK-tator"

Thank goodness for altcoins.

Bitcoin XT is an altcoin, sweetie.

No, it is one of several clients that are mining the bitcoin blockchain. First bitcoin block mined already.

It is programmed to eventually diverge away from the Bitcoin network and form it own so really it isn't like other BTC clients.


Title: Re: SIX XT Secrets Mike Hearn Doesn't Want You To Know
Post by: ChetnotAtkins on August 19, 2015, 11:57:39 AM
Mike Hearn has this military tone and way of speaking, that undoubtly adds to any suspicion of him working for a three letter agency.

If either Gavin or Hearn cared about Bitcoin, they would not risk a hard fork in such a disruptive manner while manipulating the uneducated masses with rhetorics. Their alterior motives shine through every of their actions. Whoever they work for wants complete control over Bitcoin's code base, if you support XT then you will be part of Bitcoin's demise.


Title: Re: SIX XT Secrets Mike Hearn Doesn't Want You To Know
Post by: onemorexmr on August 19, 2015, 12:03:14 PM
Mike Hearn has this military tone and way of speaking, that undoubtly adds to any suspicion of him working for a three letter agency.

If either Gavin or Hearn cared about Bitcoin, they would not risk a hard fork in such a disruptive manner while manipulating the uneducated masses with rhetorics. Their alterior motives shine through every of their actions. Whoever they work for wants complete control over Bitcoin's code base, if you support XT then you will be part of Bitcoin's demise.

i support XT because i support bigger blocks.

how would you make such a change (or any other for that matter)? consensus rules says miners decide: and thats what XT tries to do.

NoXT / blockstream folks are the ones who are trying to sabotage that and making it all drama which leads to price depression. thats not the fault of xt.

they are the one playing the rhetoric game. gavin doesnt (or do you see him opening thousands of threads crying? nope: thats what NoXT folks do).


Title: Re: SIX XT Secrets Mike Hearn Doesn't Want You To Know
Post by: benthach on August 19, 2015, 12:33:28 PM
everyone should update to XT and get over with all these dramas


Title: Re: SIX XT Secrets Mike Hearn Doesn't Want You To Know
Post by: iCEBREAKER on August 19, 2015, 05:12:38 PM

i support XT because i like free shit and Gavin's "somewhat reckless approach, which in the name of advancement shatters existing structures, fragments the community, and spins the ecosystem into chaos. (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3h9cq4/its_time_for_a_break_about_the_recent_mess/cu6udfe)"


ftfy


Title: Re: SIX XT Secrets Mike Hearn Doesn't Want You To Know
Post by: onemorexmr on August 19, 2015, 05:17:40 PM

i support XT because i like free shit and Gavin's "somewhat reckless approach, which in the name of advancement shatters existing structures, fragments the community, and spins the ecosystem into chaos. (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3h9cq4/its_time_for_a_break_about_the_recent_mess/cu6udfe)"


ftfy

imho most of the chaos came from all the fud on btct.
btw no need to misquote me; you are intelligent enough to find a better attacker vector which fits your agenda ;)


Title: Re: SIX XT Secrets Mike Hearn Doesn't Want You To Know
Post by: s1gs3gv on August 19, 2015, 05:20:21 PM
Bitcoin battered by 'governance coup'

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-19/bitcoin-battered-after-governance-coup (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-19/bitcoin-battered-after-governance-coup)