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Title: About r/bitcoin, where should/can we discuss events occuring over there?
Post by: marcotheminer on August 17, 2015, 02:02:57 PM
Where should/can we discuss the r/bitcoin forum?

A quote by HostFat that struck me as valid.

Quote from: HostFat
Quote from: theymos
Even though consensus is such a high bar, I think that in practice any hardfork that gets consensus among the Bitcoin Core devs and makes it into Bitcoin Core has a good chance of succeeding.

This sub should be renamed BitcoinCore :)


Title: Re: About r/bitcoin, where should/can we discuss events occuring over there?
Post by: frankenmint on August 17, 2015, 02:37:58 PM
Where should/can we discuss the r/bitcoin forum?

A quote by HostFat that struck me as valid.

Quote from: HostFat
Quote from: theymos
Even though consensus is such a high bar, I think that in practice any hardfork that gets consensus among the Bitcoin Core devs and makes it into Bitcoin Core has a good chance of succeeding.

This sub should be renamed BitcoinCore :)

Someone threw that into reddit as its own thread and its also been listed as a reply somewhere.  If you guys know how reddit works - that's not how it works.  You just have to create a new BitcoinCore subreddit - further adding to the confusion and efforts to simply 'label' a communal location to talk about bitcoin.


I'm not sure if he mentions in the 2nd sticky, but I was under the impression that the sticky will be removed and then its fair game to discuss hard-forks in relation to the core software and XT, once a hard-fork becomes an immenent possibility (ie Bip 101+ etc is adopted or its past Jan and Substantial users and mining pools switch to XT) 

Also, I find it hilarious that LTB got the idea to send a system-wide notice to all members 'promising NO Censorship'  -  I was like 'really guys...that's what you're banking on to increase readership?  Okay good luck you guys  :)'


Title: Re: About r/bitcoin, where should/can we discuss events occuring over there?
Post by: RoadTrain on August 17, 2015, 04:46:26 PM

Quote from: HostFat
Quote from: theymos
Even though consensus is such a high bar, I think that in practice any hardfork that gets consensus among the Bitcoin Core devs and makes it into Bitcoin Core has a good chance of succeeding.

This sub should be renamed BitcoinCore :)
Why should it? /r/bitcoin is about the current Bitcoin, which is defined by current consensus. Bitcoin Core is the reference implementation of the current Bitcoin protocol. If/when XT becomes the current Bitcoin and a reference implementation, the discussion will be allowed there, as theymos said.


Title: Re: About r/bitcoin, where should/can we discuss events occuring over there?
Post by: Quickseller on August 17, 2015, 05:14:14 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3h9cq4/its_time_for_a_break_about_the_recent_mess/

Check out the above post by theymos, I think it explains his policy pretty well.

The tl;dr version of his explanation is that XT is an altcoin because it is designed to eventually change the protocol without consensus. I am not sure that I agree with his conclusion and I am not sure that this is a good policy, however at the very least he did give a fair and well thought out explanation.

I do think that XT should be discussed in the Bitcoin section (and in R/Bitcoin) because of Blazr's reasons here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1152807.0), but also so the community can better understand the differences between XT and Bitcoin, and the risks involved in trying to fork the network without consensus. I think if more discussion can be had in an open setting then I would argue that there would be a greater chance for consensus to be reached one way or another.