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Economy => Computer hardware => Topic started by: BCM-Miners.com on August 21, 2015, 06:48:45 AM



Title: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: BCM-Miners.com on August 21, 2015, 06:48:45 AM
Missed the year 2012 to 2013?

Bitcoins have been farmed with graphic cards and "Generation 1" miners.
Very noisy and not really efficient, yet the value of the Bitcoin increased rapidly by 20 times!

Missed the year 2013 to 2014?

"Generation 2" miners with the then latest 28nm technology entered the market and attended very quickly for exploding rates. The value of the Bitcoin increased again by 20 times!


Missed the year 2014 to 2015?

Bitcoin miners continue to be manufactured in the 28nm design. Farming has become very easy and popular and with cheap hosting rates it is still profitable in the medium term.
The Bitcoin is accepted in hundreds of thousands stores on the internet and outside as its official currency.

Don't miss 2016!

An optimized generation of miners conquers the market with the latest 16nm FinFET 3D technology, exclusively from YesMiners!
8x more power and at the same time 8x less power consumption will provide an excellent and stable investment. In addition, the environment is also considerably relieved.

www.BCM-Miners.com


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: markj113 on August 21, 2015, 07:07:35 AM
As the old saying goes,

If it sounds like bullshit, smells like bullshit then its probably bullshit.

Dont think many people will be ordering this until you provide a lot more detail, pics and evidence.


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: Hermann1337 on August 21, 2015, 08:29:32 AM
he tried same thing yesterday in german section. dont order here. he is definitely a scammer.


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: DebitMe on August 21, 2015, 02:32:39 PM
If your going to scam, at least make it believable.  Your not fooling anyone as the technology to make a chip that fast with that low of power consumption has not been achieved yet and will not for a long time.


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: ovejda on August 21, 2015, 08:19:09 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1152767.msg12139100#msg12139100


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: VirosaGITS on August 21, 2015, 10:20:55 PM
A miner from a newbie that does 0.075J/GH. At an usual V/A design... 1500watt really?
Is yesminer remotely legit? The 3D rendered image is pretty nice.


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: Starin on August 22, 2015, 03:41:34 AM
A miner from a newbie that does 0.075J/GH. At an usual V/A design... 1500watt really?
Is yesminer remotely legit? The 3D rendered image is pretty nice.

Eh, if someone ever has that efficiency, I would suggest them to keep it to themselves.


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: TheRealSteve on August 22, 2015, 01:07:42 PM
Eh, if someone ever has that efficiency, I would suggest them to keep it to themselves.
It's pretty much copy/paste from KnCMiner and AlChip's claims, which themselves have not been independently verified;
http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-deploys-next-generation-16nm-bitcoin-asic/
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/7c2c00e3jw1ervfedx421j20t412ttbd.jpg


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: VirosaGITS on August 22, 2015, 07:13:12 PM
Eh, if someone ever has that efficiency, I would suggest them to keep it to themselves.
It's pretty much copy/paste from KnCMiner and AlChip's claims, which themselves have not been independently verified;
http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-deploys-next-generation-16nm-bitcoin-asic/
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/7c2c00e3jw1ervfedx421j20t412ttbd.jpg

But i think those are claims on 16nm technology. The op's miner are 28nm. Therefor it sound fairly impossible to engineer such ASIC with that chip technology.


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: TheRealSteve on August 22, 2015, 07:25:46 PM
But i think those are claims on 16nm technology. The op's miner are 28nm. Therefor it sound fairly impossible to engineer such ASIC with that chip technology.
Re-read op's post.  When done, also read their post in the German section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1157632.msg12204536#msg12204536 ( hit it with some Google translate if bored :) )


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: VirosaGITS on August 22, 2015, 07:31:37 PM
But i think those are claims on 16nm technology. The op's miner are 28nm. Therefor it sound fairly impossible to engineer such ASIC with that chip technology.
Re-read op's post.  When done, also read their post in the German section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1157632.msg12204536#msg12204536 ( hit it with some Google translate if bored :) )

I did, the miner on the website linked at says 28nm. But the website is down now. Just to add suspicions top of suspicions.


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: ovejda on August 23, 2015, 06:40:56 PM
not able 0.075J/GH by 28nm :) SCAM


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: mindtrip on August 24, 2015, 12:08:27 AM
the website doesent even work


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: hedgy73 on August 24, 2015, 01:04:57 AM
Looks like yet another scam. Negative trust left until proven otherwise.


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: mindtrip on August 24, 2015, 03:12:26 AM
Looks like yet another scam. Negative trust left until proven otherwise.

I agree and have done the same


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: lunacy on August 24, 2015, 03:24:56 AM
If it sounds like bullshit, smells like bullshit then its probably bullshit.

What exactly does bullshit sound like...? ;P


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: markj113 on August 24, 2015, 07:23:01 AM
If it sounds like bullshit, smells like bullshit then its probably bullshit.

What exactly does bullshit sound like...? ;P

No idea lol


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: TheAnalogKid on August 24, 2015, 07:11:14 PM
If it sounds like bullshit, smells like bullshit then its probably bullshit.

What exactly does bullshit sound like...? ;P

No idea lol
Well, I would assume "mooooooooooo-splat!" when it hits the wall...


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: mrkubanftw on August 24, 2015, 10:21:42 PM
Missed the year 2012 to 2013?

Bitcoins have been farmed with graphic cards and "Generation 1" miners.
Very noisy and not really efficient, yet the value of the Bitcoin increased rapidly by 20 times!

Missed the year 2013 to 2014?

"Generation 2" miners with the then latest 28nm technology entered the market and attended very quickly for exploding rates. The value of the Bitcoin increased again by 20 times!


Missed the year 2014 to 2015?

Bitcoin miners continue to be manufactured in the 28nm design. Farming has become very easy and popular and with cheap hosting rates it is still profitable in the medium term.
The Bitcoin is accepted in hundreds of thousands stores on the internet and outside as its official currency.

Don't miss 2016!

An optimized generation of miners conquers the market with the latest 16nm FinFET 3D technology, exclusively from YesMiners!
8x more power and at the same time 8x less power consumption will provide an excellent and stable investment. In addition, the environment is also considerably relieved.

www.BCM-Miners.com


This guy is likey a scammer but he is right about the new chip.

Dont expect KNC to sell it to average consumers though.


"KnCMiner Just Broke All World Records Running A New 3D Bitcoin Chip At 16 Nanometer"

http://www.kncminer.com/blog/newsarchive

Heard about that a few months back. Nothing new.


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: TheRealSteve on August 24, 2015, 10:36:48 PM
And KnC's claims have not been independently verified in any way either.  We'll see if there's any movement in hash rates or whether it'll just blend in with phasing out old gear for the most part.

In the mean time, all the chatter about 16nm / 14nm efforts without any proof seems to bring out new scams when there was a nice calm period for a while.  Have another one to pick apart (who doesn't love renders, right?): https://archive.is/Gku8v


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: mindtrip on August 24, 2015, 10:54:00 PM
If it sounds like bullshit, smells like bullshit then its probably bullshit.

What exactly does bullshit sound like...? ;P

it would be someone claiming they have a machine that can mine 3 PH for only 400 Watts with no pictures, or evidence of such claims


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: majestymage on September 09, 2015, 01:39:10 PM
scam all over


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: hedgy73 on September 09, 2015, 05:05:39 PM
Looks like the website's gone or is down.


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: Dmc123dmc on September 12, 2015, 03:41:50 PM
Looks like the website's gone or is down.
Damn.... I was just about to drop £100k on these amazing miners........ No really  ;)


Title: Re: New Bitcoin Miners 20Ths
Post by: Romanko on September 19, 2015, 10:58:50 AM
Looks like the website's gone or is down.
Damn.... I was just about to drop £100k on these amazing miners........ No really  ;)

Looks like all miners already sold out to someone really fast ;D