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Title: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: cheetahguy666 on August 24, 2015, 05:39:11 PM
i was talking with another fellow mexican the other day that aztlan will most certainly be mexican in the near future. mexican guerillas such as mecha de aztlan, nuestra familia, and legal fronts such as maldef are in every school recruiting aztec fighters for the cause "la causa." mexicans have gone from having no population to being 40% of the population thanks to our anchor baby warriors. the demographic war is almost won as our aztec women have 3.5 babies each while nonaztecs only 1.5. in my town la raza ("the aztec race") has taken over local government and do not let nonmexicans in. what do you guys think?


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: saddampbuh on August 24, 2015, 05:49:11 PM
your indigenous ancestors outnumbered the spaniards 1000 to 1 and got slaughtered, having a 3.5 birthrate isn't going to win you any race war with europeans


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: Mikestang on August 24, 2015, 07:18:40 PM
Been there, done that.  Thanks for California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Utah, and all the rest.  What lands will you give us next time?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: Sourgummies on August 24, 2015, 11:14:08 PM
Birthrate is leveling off in Mexico try again.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: Possum577 on August 25, 2015, 04:33:01 AM
What does the USA have to do with a demographic war Mexico?

What side are you on?


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: reyhiesa on August 25, 2015, 06:51:04 AM
your indigenous ancestors outnumbered the spaniards 1000 to 1 and got slaughtered, having a 3.5 birthrate isn't going to win you any race war with europeans

Not that I disagree with you, but of course, 90% of the indigenous population dying from diseases in advance of the Spanish advance was helpful to the European powers. They only had to mop up the rest.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: Bitfundit on August 29, 2015, 04:49:38 AM
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the demographic war is almost won as our aztec women have 3.5 babies each while nonaztecs only 1.5.

Conquest by Osmosis?


May take a while..


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 29, 2015, 08:37:36 AM
your indigenous ancestors outnumbered the spaniards 1000 to 1 and got slaughtered, having a 3.5 birthrate isn't going to win you any race war with europeans

The scenario was entirely different back then. The Aztecs were not an advanced civilization. Their knowledge about the usage of metals, gunpowder and fire-arms was limited. Imagine what will happen if an American soldier armed with AK-47 takes on African tribals who are armed only with wooden spears and bows.

Also, the conquistadors used the biological warfare to their own advantage. They spread diseases such as plague, smallpox and measles among the indigenous population, killing 90% of the natives and making the remaining too weak to fight.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: saddampbuh on August 29, 2015, 01:39:47 PM
The scenario was entirely different back then. The Aztecs were not an advanced civilization. Their knowledge about the usage of metals, gunpowder and fire-arms was limited. Imagine what will happen if an American soldier armed with AK-47 takes on African tribals who are armed only with wooden spears and bows.

Also, the conquistadors used the biological warfare to their own advantage. They spread diseases such as plague, smallpox and measles among the indigenous population, killing 90% of the natives and making the remaining too weak to fight.
different scenario, same outcome if the mexicans ever decide to put americans to the test. is there so much difference between african tribals and the modern mexican gangs? just savages for a different age. mexican activists and criminals are only getting away with the stuff they currently are because people are too pussy to do anything about them but there are signs that's changing with the trump thing. the more mexicans with uppity nigger attitude like op there are the angrier americans are going to get.

mexicans could become 90% of the population in those southern states and they'd still get swatted down like flies. americans don't need numbers to take on third world invaders. they just need to rediscover the will to defend themselves.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: PaoloSerBit on August 29, 2015, 01:48:38 PM
The USA could simply stop letting any Mexican immigrants in, without any mercy. Or, encourage for example more Asians to come, in hope that they will adapt better. Besides that, the most of Mexicans in USA become just us American as any other people there. So itīs more probable that Mexico will be like USA than the other way around  :)


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 29, 2015, 03:17:14 PM
mexicans could become 90% of the population in those southern states and they'd still get swatted down like flies. americans don't need numbers to take on third world invaders. they just need to rediscover the will to defend themselves.

The United States is a democratic country. If the Mexicans ever become 90% of the population in any of the regions, then they will capture power democratically, through the elections. The remaining Whites will migrate to the other states (just like what they did when African Americans became the majority in Detroit).


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: reyhiesa on October 10, 2015, 04:00:09 AM
mexican activists and criminals are only getting away with the stuff they currently are because people are too pussy to do anything about them but there are signs that's changing with the trump thing.

Mexican criminals are only getting away with the stuff they currently are because people in high places profit from it. A lot. And because it serves as an excuse to push what would be unpopular measures otherwise.


The remaining Whites will migrate to the other states (just like what they did when African Americans became the majority in Detroit).

The way you say it makes it seem like that didn't happen because corporations realized they could profit more in third world countries, rather than in Detroit and other American cities.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 10, 2015, 07:20:08 PM
Mexicans could become 90% of the population in those southern states and they'd still get swatted down like flies. americans don't need numbers to take on third world invaders. they just need to rediscover the will to defend themselves.

Remember KOSOVO?

Kosovo was historical Christian Serbian homeland. The Muslim Shqips immigrated to Kosovo, and started the "Demographic Jihad" by producing a dozen children per woman. By the mid-20th century, Serbs became a minority in their own homeland. Once they crossed the 70% mark, the Shqips began terrorizing the Serbs. The Serbs tried to fight back, but they were bombed to submission by Billary.

The same is going to happen with Texas and Arizona.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: toddtervy on October 10, 2015, 07:21:46 PM
Mexico would no doubt get support from most of the rest of the world.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: saddampbuh on October 10, 2015, 07:57:36 PM
Remember KOSOVO?

Kosovo was historical Christian Serbian homeland. The Muslim Shqips immigrated to Kosovo, and started the "Demographic Jihad" by producing a dozen children per woman. By the mid-20th century, Serbs became a minority in their own homeland. Once they crossed the 70% mark, the Shqips began terrorizing the Serbs. The Serbs tried to fight back, but they were bombed to submission by Billary.

The same is going to happen with Texas and Arizona.
you're kind of making the same point as me, it wasn't the muslim birthrate that defeated serbia but that traitorous zionist nato superpowers. albanians' being the majority in kosovo didn't stop them being driven out nor did the billion muslims around the wold come to their aid. once europeans and americans decide to rid ourselves of the third world vermin there wont be anyone coming in to stop us, least of all the third world vermin themselves.

i do not say that our rediscovering the will to defend ourselves is a foregone conclusion but i do say it is the only thing that matters at the end of the day, its not about higher white birthrates or lower muslim immigration.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: BADecker on October 12, 2015, 01:04:13 PM
Considering what Russia has done in bombing Syria, any time the U.S. becomes fed up with what Mexico is doing, BOOM! There goes Mexico. All gone.

:)


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: toddtervy on October 12, 2015, 03:56:04 PM
America is a country largely of psychopaths.  The mistake is in considering them human.  The second mistake is an unwillingness to kill them, a fate far better than they deserve.  This is largely why u.s. is doomed and a foreign power eradicating most or all of them may be the only way for humans to win, what's left of humanity that is.  Think of these as zombies or like mimics, they look like us, they act like us but the emotional part of their brain is nonexistant.  We've gone too long in a system where these stupid and evil trash live among us.  They've convinced us killing is bad, because they know they deserve to die. 
So the real question is whether or not you side with humanity or sick,twisted creatures that appear similar


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: BADecker on October 13, 2015, 04:12:05 AM
Since Americans are approximately the best that there is, it's kinda sad that so many critters from other places in the world think that Americans are that bad. But, what can you expect? After all, there are going to be violence loving people around the world, since even peaceful Americans show a little violence at times. And, of course, Americans are the best.

:)


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: toddtervy on October 13, 2015, 04:29:28 AM
America is almost all stupid fucks.  The only thing you can do is kill them...  The is no victory only this, our legacy is we supported the wrong side and we were a big part of the evil side in the war.  All evils done supposedly by the nazis, have been proven to be done by America.  The concentration camps, the experiments on its citizens, etc.  All the stuff they put in the history books to make the nazis sound bad.  It was all action that were actually done by U.S. government agents.  No matter how thoroughly you prove it many refuse to accept it openly.  The history they peddle is fake, always was.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: BADecker on October 13, 2015, 04:34:51 AM
True that there are a lot of stupid people in America. If there weren't, they would have had a lot more children with all their sexual activity, rather than using contraceptives or abortion.

Americans generally are quite patient with other folks. But get them riled, and you might not last out the day.

:)


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: reyhiesa on October 14, 2015, 05:29:51 AM
Does anyone get what the two guys above are going on about?


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: Harry Hood on October 14, 2015, 06:14:07 AM
I thought this was about soccer/football at first...

What indicates that Mexico and the US are at or will be at war (or direct competition) with each other?

America is almost all stupid fucks.

Ha, speaking of stupid fucks...don't be fooled people. Todd is from America...and he speaks largely of himself. Todd, those "almost all stupid fucks" likely brought you the device, internet search engine and email provider that you use to access the forum. If you can (i.e., if you have the maturity and common sense) try to show some respect. And if you want to bitch about the American politics, government, culture, or any other item you deem "stupid", start with a point - a statement  - it'll make it easier for you to defend it.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: Djisamsoe on October 14, 2015, 07:36:49 AM
i think mexico will win,they have taco  ;D


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: BADecker on October 14, 2015, 03:01:22 PM
i think mexico will win,they have taco  ;D

Do they have the Bell down there too?    ;D


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: toddtervy on October 15, 2015, 02:22:23 AM
America's best defense is no one would possibly want to deal with the fools inhabiting it.  Sort of a win/lose defense strategy.  Whatever works right?


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: BTChaintrader on October 15, 2015, 10:47:10 AM
I don't think Mexico and USA will ever have to fight against each other. But everybody know that USA has the strongest military in the world, so there is no chance for Mexico.

Especially if Trump is the president, then the USA will be tired of winning. Winning, after winning, after winning....


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: darkangel11 on October 15, 2015, 01:46:03 PM
Haha of course Mexico will win. They won at Alamo, right?


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: BADecker on October 15, 2015, 03:48:12 PM
Haha of course Mexico will win. They won at Alamo, right?

By accident. After all, Texas is a State of the United States, not of Mexico.

:)


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 18, 2015, 05:38:32 PM
Considering what Russia has done in bombing Syria, any time the U.S. becomes fed up with what Mexico is doing, BOOM! There goes Mexico. All gone.

Looking at the rate at which the Mexicans are migrating to the United States, soon there won't be too many people living in Mexico and the other Central American countries. Already the Northern provinces of Mexico have become depopulated as a result of the drug war. As the war spreads to the Central region, the immigration rate will also rise.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: reyhiesa on October 19, 2015, 08:02:57 AM
Considering what Russia has done in bombing Syria, any time the U.S. becomes fed up with what Mexico is doing, BOOM! There goes Mexico. All gone.

Looking at the rate at which the Mexicans are migrating to the United States, soon there won't be too many people living in Mexico and the other Central American countries. Already the Northern provinces of Mexico have become depopulated as a result of the drug war. As the war spreads to the Central region, the immigration rate will also rise.

Are you sure about that? Data from a 2012 Pew report shows that Mexicans are now going back to Mexico faster than they go into the States, as the situation in Mexico has improved over time, and declined in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emigration_from_Mexico#Recent_trend_reversal_in_migration_Mexico-U.S.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: designerusa on October 20, 2015, 12:22:28 PM
This is bad compare. USA uses immigrant Mexicans in the worst jobs you can imagine. So mexicans do not have any economic power at all (even mexica's economy is growing, it will never be like usa's). So USA already won, there is no other option.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: IamTalkingaboutmoney on October 21, 2015, 03:09:41 PM
mexico vs usa really?
usa its the second power of the world if i dont do a mistake, but in my head its like that 1o RUSSIA, 2o USA  mexico its far away i think for now, he has power in military ok.
but not technology
no technology=no winning at all.
i think usa easy will win  for sure,  but its still impossible to risk mexico that fight against that force, if you imagine the cost after that, haha mexico will deleted from the earth.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 22, 2015, 02:50:14 AM
This is bad compare. USA uses immigrant Mexicans in the worst jobs you can imagine. So mexicans do not have any economic power at all (even mexica's economy is growing, it will never be like usa's). So USA already won, there is no other option.

In democracy, population matters, and not economic power. Once the 13 million illegal immigrants are legalized, the Mexicans will be in full control of various American states such as Arizona, Texas and Colorado. The entire South-West section of the country will be having a Mexican majority. And it will be impossible for a POTUS candidate to win the elections without the Mexican support.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on October 22, 2015, 02:53:28 AM
if this is about Boxing i'll go for Mexico  ;D
but since this is about the economy and politics it's USA and there's nothing to compare from both country because it is obvious that USA is very much ahead.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: SerenaL on October 22, 2015, 04:30:15 AM
The united states i think. They have nukes, cmon.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: tom555 on October 22, 2015, 08:56:18 AM
its hard to answer,but i think america will win. they have many mad man!


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 22, 2015, 10:25:10 AM
The united states i think. They have nukes, cmon.

I don't think that the Americans will fire nukes against their own citizens. A large part of the Mexicans do have American citizenship, and in a matter of few years, there will be more Mexicans in the United States, than in Mexico itself. Do you really believe that the US is going to nuke major metros such as Los Angeles and San Francisco?


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: BADecker on October 22, 2015, 10:52:33 AM
The united states i think. They have nukes, cmon.

I don't think that the Americans will fire nukes against their own citizens. A large part of the Mexicans do have American citizenship, and in a matter of few years, there will be more Mexicans in the United States, than in Mexico itself. Do you really believe that the US is going to nuke major metros such as Los Angeles and San Francisco?

Some of the largest chemtrail areas are over the U.S. Southwest. The aluminum and barium particles in the chemtrails are settling to the earth and are getting into people's food and water. It is being absorbed into people's brains, and is destroying their thinking and memory. The takeover is slow and tedious, not with bombs being dropped. After all, you need the people for the factories. The strong people who do not die from the chemtrail spraying will be of such low IQ that they won't be able to think themselves out of a wet paper bag. Good slaves for working in the factories.

:)


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: reyhiesa on October 23, 2015, 06:14:16 AM
The united states i think. They have nukes, cmon.

I don't think that the Americans will fire nukes against their own citizens. A large part of the Mexicans do have American citizenship, and in a matter of few years, there will be more Mexicans in the United States, than in Mexico itself. Do you really believe that the US is going to nuke major metros such as Los Angeles and San Francisco?

That's fear mongering. 120 million Mexicans versus 10 million Americans with Mexican ancestry maybe? Doesn't seem likely that there will be more Mexicans in the United States than in Mexico in a few years. Many of them are going back to Mexico, and many others move from the countryside to the cities within Mexico instead of going to the United States. That's the trend reversal I mentioned before. The United States aren't the attractive destination they once were anymore.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 23, 2015, 04:31:00 PM
That's fear mongering. 120 million Mexicans versus 10 million Americans with Mexican ancestry maybe? Doesn't seem likely that there will be more Mexicans in the United States than in Mexico in a few years. Many of them are going back to Mexico, and many others move from the countryside to the cities within Mexico instead of going to the United States. That's the trend reversal I mentioned before. The United States aren't the attractive destination they once were anymore.

As per the 2010 Census of the United Sates, there are a total of 50,477,594 Hispanics residing legally in the United States. Add in the 13 million or so illegal immigrants, the figure will cross 20% of the total population. This is much higher than the 10 million figure which you had quoted.

Also, there is no strong evidence to prove that more Mexicans are going back to their home country, than those who migrate to the United States. The immigration influx from Latin America seems to be growing day by day.


Title: Re: mexico vs usa, who will win
Post by: reyhiesa on October 25, 2015, 05:54:33 AM
That's fear mongering. 120 million Mexicans versus 10 million Americans with Mexican ancestry maybe? Doesn't seem likely that there will be more Mexicans in the United States than in Mexico in a few years. Many of them are going back to Mexico, and many others move from the countryside to the cities within Mexico instead of going to the United States. That's the trend reversal I mentioned before. The United States aren't the attractive destination they once were anymore.

As per the 2010 Census of the United Sates, there are a total of 50,477,594 Hispanics residing legally in the United States. Add in the 13 million or so illegal immigrants, the figure will cross 20% of the total population. This is much higher than the 10 million figure which you had quoted.

Also, there is no strong evidence to prove that more Mexicans are going back to their home country, than those who migrate to the United States. The immigration influx from Latin America seems to be growing day by day.

You're right, Americans with Mexican ancestry are more than 10 million. About 35 million legally, and maybe the 13 million you mentioned illegally. But do you have anything to back up the idea that emigration from Mexico is increasing? The Pew research seems to contradict it. Has anything dramatically changed since the study, or anything that shows it wrong? Especially in the scale needed for there to be more Mexicans in the United States than in Mexico in a few years like you were pushing?

http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/net-migration-from-mexico-falls-to-zero-and-perhaps-less